Just ordered a brand-new V1 Gen2

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Well, I just ordered a brand new Valentine 1 Gen. It is supposed to ship towards the end of the month. I bought a Galaxy J2 Phone for about $60 bucks to use the JBV1 App on an Android Phone. I will use the hotspot on my Apple iPhone XR. (I have a T-Mobile account). Not going to lie, I'm pretty stoked. Still, I do wonder if I am better off just paying the extra $5 a month to have data only on the Galaxy J2 phone?
 

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I don’t think you need a data plan or 4G /5G network with the galaxy phone to use with JBV1. You can just use it with WiFi to download the app and then just turn Bluetooth on, and it will communicate with the detector. I like apple products and would never use an android full-time. But that’s just me. Some people use 2 phones for that reason- one with the detector(Android) and one for the other stuff (iPhone).
 

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I don’t think you need a data plan or 4G /5G network with the galaxy phone to use with JBV1. You can just use it with WiFi to download the app and then just turn Bluetooth on, and it will communicate with the detector. I like apple products and would never use an android full-time. But that’s just me. Some people use 2 phones for that reason- one with the detector(Android) and one for the other stuff (iPhone).


I can't use wifi as the wifi dongle requires use of the OBDII port underneath the steering wheel on the left. I use this port for inertial GPS for the alpine nav system that is CarPlay enabled. So, I will have to use the hotspot on my phone or get a data-only plan for the J2 Galaxy.
 

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There are ODBII splitters.

But, tell us more about the WiFi device that plugs in to ODBII. :)
Verizon Hum?
 

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There are ODBII splitters.

But, tell us more about the WiFi device that plugs in to ODBII. :)
Verizon Hum?


Bloovy, there are OBDII splitters? You don't say? I did not know that. Well, I have T-Mobile and the T-Mobile wifi dongle has been shit from day one. It works for a while and then cuts out. It never works as it should. I have tried to return it several times.
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Bloovy, there are OBDII splitters? You don't say? I did not know that. Well, I have T-Mobile and the T-Mobile wifi dongle has been shit from day one. It works for a while and then cuts out. It never works as it should. I have tried to return it several times.


I just ordered a splitter.
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Bloovy,

I took my wifi dongle to T-Mobile and I now have working wifi in my car!!
 
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Sounds like that's all working out great then! Cool!
 

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You dont need any internet connection to use JBV1. GPS features will still work without internet
 

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If GPS was all JBV1 was useful for, that would be true. There's some really beneficial features that require a data connection. :)

  • Live Alert Map with marked Points of Interest and Heatmaps of past alerts
  • Reverse Geocoding for Speed Limit information and Speed dependent muting
  • Crowd Sourced Alerts such as LEOs, Accidents, Object on Road, etc.
  • Proximate Aircraft Warning System with maps showing path traveled
  • Weather Radar maps for 50-150 miles
To me, GPS is roughly 5% of the benefit of JBV1.
 
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I am an anti-apper and my gen 2 still works just fine. I dare say, range and performance are not affected. I dare because there are some pretty hot tempers over people not using the apps. I know.

You may decide the V1 or running another phone in the car phone sucks. I decided my phone + detector + car radio screen + jammer was enough, and didn’t want anything else to distract me. Plus my routine was getting a little heavy.

Heck you might not even like the V1gen2. Just sayin... it could happen. Just saying you don’t need to invest in so much, and cell phones will run GPS just fine without cell signal.
 

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If GPS was all JBV1 was useful for, that would be true. There's some really beneficial features that require a data connection. :)

  • Live Alert Map with marked Points of Interest and Heatmaps of past alerts
  • Reverse Geocoding for Speed Limit information and Speed dependent muting
  • Crowd Sourced Alerts such as LEOs, Accidents, Object on Road, etc.
  • Proximate Aircraft Warning System with maps showing path traveled
  • Weather Radar maps for 50-150 miles
To me, GPS is roughly 5% of the benefit of JBV1.

How do you have 385k miles on Waze! Do you like just open the app and drive; or like make sure you map out your trips and toggle GPS on. (I'm asking seriously)
 

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I can't use wifi as the wifi dongle requires use of the OBDII port underneath the steering wheel on the left. I use this port for inertial GPS for the alpine nav system that is CarPlay enabled. So, I will have to use the hotspot on my phone or get a data-only plan for the J2 Galaxy.

Load the app “Bluetooth auto connect” on the android. Set up a Bluetooth connection to your iPhone. I know it’s enough data/speed for the Highway Radar app but I’ve never tested it on a v1 app.
 
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I am an anti-apper and my gen 2 still works just fine. I dare say, range and performance are not affected. I dare because there are some pretty hot tempers over people not using the apps. I know.
I totally support your point of view. I have no problem with someone being reasonably aware of the potential benefits of using an app and deciding they don't want to use one. :)

The issues are when someone comes along (not directed at anyone specifically) and says what they believe about apps with an authoritative approach when it's clear they have no idea what they are talking about. :) If a new person reads that, it hasn't helped them.

How do you have 385k miles on Waze! Do you like just open the app and drive; or like make sure you map out your trips and toggle GPS on. (I'm asking seriously)
Ha! I've been using Waze since late 2013. I drive 50-60K per year (many days I average 200-300 miles) and I use it to actually get me where I'm going.
 

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Well, I just ordered a brand new Valentine 1 Gen. It is supposed to ship towards the end of the month. I bought a Galaxy J2 Phone for about $60 bucks to use the JBV1 App on an Android Phone. I will use the hotspot on my Apple iPhone XR. (I have a T-Mobile account). Not going to lie, I'm pretty stoked. Still, I do wonder if I am better off just paying the extra $5 a month to have data only on the Galaxy J2 phone?
Interesting screen name you have there. Dale Smith was the inventor of Fuzzbuster.
I have used the V1 since 1998 and I just discovered the JBV1 app a few days after receiving the Gen2V1 in March 2020. I'll just say that JBV1 is amazing. There is a lot to learn. I think the V1G2 is really good without the app but since I got an Android phone from work... why not try something new. :)
 

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We use apps for just about everything so a detector that’s app capable makes sense. Technically you don’t have to use an app at all with the V1 but it sure makes it easier. I just bought a garage door opener, replaced the liftmaster I had for 20 years; I can now open and close the door with an app :) from anywhere. Wtf. :mmmsmug:

It makes adjusting the detector’s settings so much easier. I love being able to set up customizable profiles. This has been said many times before but the V1 is for “tinkering.” If you don’t like having a load of options and settings and data then go get something else.

for me the V1G2 is the best thing since......

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The anti appers probably still go into the bank, phone for cabs and wear a calculator watch.
But, we all know that it has nothing to do with apps. Their dislike of VR goes far deeper than that.
 

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The anti appers probably still go into the bank, phone for cabs and wear a calculator watch.
But, we all know that it has nothing to do with apps. Their dislike of VR goes far deeper than that.

Enough already Lou. Apps are great, but they’re not for everyone, including many tech savvy people. Would you please stop attacking those who have a different set of needs or preferences than you? It’s getting old.
 

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The anti appers probably still go into the bank, phone for cabs and wear a calculator watch.
But, we all know that it has nothing to do with apps. Their dislike of VR goes far deeper than that.

You never surprise. Some people just want a unit that does everything itself. It's not a matter of dislike for Valentine at all. Most can understand that some people don't mind using two devices and others just want to use one. A bank app on the phone doesn't require a second device. Apples and oranges. If everyone thought your way there would only be Valentine RD's out there and most likely no V1G2. No doubt the progress other brands made probably pushed Valentine to do more with their product.

As a side note anyone ordering a V1G2 may want to ask about a return unit vs new. They told me they were still backlogged on unboxing them so a bit of a discount if they still do that for whatever the discount used to be.
 
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The anti appers probably still go into the bank, phone for cabs and wear a calculator watch.
But, we all know that it has nothing to do with apps. Their dislike of VR goes far deeper than that.
Lou,

You've reach the point of lunatic conspiracy theorist with this comment. I'm sorry to have to put you on ignore now. This has to stop. Very, very few individuals join this forum to hate on a brand just because. Any negative will toward a particular vendor is likely earned by said vendor and also needs to be addressed by said vendor. Roy is dead. Let the old VR/escort rivalries die. There are so many new members here that don't even know that history that it makes you look nuts, man.
 

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Enough already Lou. Apps are great, but they’re not for everyone, including many tech savvy people. Would you please stop attacking those who have a different set of needs or preferences than you? It’s getting old.
When those preferences are based on facts and needs that's fine. when they're based on ignorance and repeated false statements by those with an agenda it's not so fine.
As you realised yourself, once you got into it, it's quite amazing how using an app adds many dimensions to a countermeasure set up.
Just like using a smartphone in all walks of life. But there will always be Luddites.
Besides there is a difference between anti-appers and those who simply don't want to use one.
 
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Lou,

You've reach the point of lunatic conspiracy theorist with this comment. I'm sorry to have to put you on ignore now. This has to stop. Very, very few individuals join this forum to hate on a brand just because. Any negative will toward a particular vendor is likely earned by said vendor and also needs to be addressed by said vendor. Roy is dead. Let the old VR/escort rivalries die. There are so many new members here that don't even know that history that it makes you look nuts, man.
There is only one Lou. If Valentine ever hires a PR guy they may want to get him over here. Now he is working for free.
 

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