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Here are some pics of the RF board under our Amscope. This is the earlier revision, I no longer have the newest revision.

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A lot of dirty joints/components and a bunch of bodges.
Hopefully the new revisions are better.
You like that microstrip that was hand-soldered in the 6th pic from the bottom?
 

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Now I am suprised they haven't had more returns! That mostly almost sideways capacitor is a cold solder joint waiting to happen. The vast majority of the joints are dull and should have been reflowed by hand with a Metcal curl tip. I have never seen a production board look this bad.

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What the hell is VR using for a board wash solution in the 1st pix(& others) - salt water ?
I laughed when I saw the SMD cap. sideways, then the cold solder joints- OMG !
This sure hints at why there are so many issues w/ operational features buyers are reporting.

A peak behind the curtain reveals an embarrassing mess, shame on VR for releasing something like this to their customer('s ?).
 

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Thanks for posting these pictures. Just curious, did the Gen 1 models suffer from the same characteristics and poor soldering and components, or is this a new phenomenon (worse manufacturing standards) unique to Gen 2? (Maybe V1 thought: if this was "good enough" for Gen 1, it's good enough for Gen 2?)
 

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Thanks for posting these pictures. Just curious, did the Gen 1 models suffer from the same characteristics and poor soldering and components, or is this a new phenomenon (worse manufacturing standards) unique to Gen 2? (Maybe V1 thought: if this was "good enough" for Gen 1, it's good enough for Gen 2?)
I never bothered to look at the original V1 under a microscope to be honest.

I would also be careful not to draw sweeping conclusions from one unit I have here. Who knows if there are other revisions that are better or worse.
 

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I am shocked this was sold to a customer...
 

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V-1 Quality has gone to Poop!
 

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I never bothered to look at the original V1 under a microscope to be honest.

I would also be careful not to draw sweeping conclusions from one unit I have here. Who knows if there are other revisions that are better or worse.

Well I would not be careful. Yes there are other Revs (so we can't draw any conclusions between Revs yet, just hope the other Revs also don't look like this) but it is more than obvious that if this is a production board and that it is not a hand soldered Alpha IE it stands to reason that if one production Rev C board is in this condition, they all are from a specific production run.

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Well I would not be careful. Yes there are other Revs (so we can't draw any conclusions between Revs yet, just hope the other Revs also don't look like this)
Rev F also looks like this. Not to the same extent but still some hand soldered stuff, bodges, etc. Theres a missing component that looks like they ripped it off of the board using pliers.

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The horn also had LOTS of metal shavings stuck to the radar absorbant rubber pads (those specks are metal, not dust) :
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Rev F also looks like this. Not to the same extent but still some hand soldered stuff, bodges, etc. Theres a missing component that looks like they ripped it off of the board using pliers.

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The horn also had LOTS of metal shavings stuck to the radar absorbant rubber pads (those specks are metal, not dust) :
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I can't get my iPhone to expand the pic with good enough resolution but it looks like in Pic 1, they added an electrolytic SMD capacitor onto that other SMD capacitor.

The solder looks much better in these pic. Wonder if VR used a different vender on the boards? The solder on the first one looked like it was recycled!

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