V1 website updated with more BSM info, some guidance on software update roadmap

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I'm not sure if this has been pointed out yet, but some little revisions on the V1 website seem to have happened:

A listing of the BSMs that are filtered:
V1 Gen2 resists interference from almost all of them. However, there is a specific radar sensor used in some 2013-2016 GM vehicles that we’re still working on. The same sensor is also used in some 2007-2012 Mercedes Benz vehicles and 2011-2013 Chrysler and Jeep vehicles.

Vehicles whose Blind Spot Warning systems cause K-band false alarms on V1 Gen2 at this time (4-2-2020).
2013 – 2017 Buick Enclave and Buick Verano
2013 – 2016 Cadillac SRX
2013 – 2017 Chevy Traverse
2014 – 2016 Chevy Impala, Chevrolet SS, Chevy Equinox, Chevy Cruze, and Chevy Volt
2011 – 2012 Chrysler Town & Country
2011 – 2012 Chrysler 300
2013 – 2017 GMC Acadia
2014 – 2016 GMC Terrain
2011 – 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee
2007 – 2012 Mercedes-Benz (C, E, GL, GLK, ML, R, and SLS class)
2014 Mercedes-Benz SL63
Promise of later in 2020 for laser filtering to improve:
Mazda’s Smart City Brake, Volvo’s City Safety, and Toyota’s Safety Sense C (TSS-C) are forward crash-mitigation systems that use laser to “see” the road ahead. Since they use the same laser wave length as speed-enforcement laser, they trigger a similar laser warning in V1 Gen2. Mazda and Volvo models from 2012-2018 will continue to be troublesome until we release a firmware update sometime later in 2020.
 

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Thanks this is new info I’ll go check it out on the website. Thanks!! This info is marked April 2, 2020.

it’s on this page https://www.valentine1.com/
Under FAQ “What is blind-spot radar?”

I can confirm the Enclave and the Town N’ Country minivan
 
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Wow, that's so cool that they're actually listing out which cars cause the V1 to false, as well as a glimpse into expected improvements. :) I'm glad to see they're working on laser filtering!

I think the BSM list is a work in progress since it doesn't list the Mazda CX-5.
 

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Wow, that's so cool that they're actually listing out which cars cause the V1 to false, as well as a glimpse into expected improvements. :) I'm glad to see they're working on laser filtering!

I think the BSM list is a work in progress since it doesn't list the Mazda CX-5.
Yeah I don’t think the list is comprehensive but other than what Radenso has been sharing here, it’s been one of the more comprehensive listings of what cars aren’t filtered. As a customer I definitely appreciate it and it reflects they are thinking about specific troublesome cars just like when we rate BSM filtering.
 

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Vehicles whose Blind Spot Warning systems cause K-band false alarms on V1 Gen2 at this time (4-2-2020).
2013 – 2017 Buick Enclave and Buick Verano
2013 – 2016 Cadillac SRX
2013 – 2017 Chevy Traverse
2014 – 2016 Chevy Impala, Chevrolet SS, Chevy Equinox, Chevy Cruze, and Chevy Volt
2011 – 2012 Chrysler Town & Country
2011 – 2012 Chrysler 300
2013 – 2017 GMC Acadia
2014 – 2016 GMC Terrain
2011 – 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee
2007 – 2012 Mercedes-Benz (C, E, GL, GLK, ML, R, and SLS class)
2014 Mercedes-Benz SL63
That's a really interesting list... I wonder how much overlap there is between specific BSM radar units used?
 

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No Hondas/Acuras listed so that is a GOOD thing!

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No Hondas/Acuras listed so that is a GOOD thing!
That generally follows my experience with it. It still has issues with the GM paired frequencies such as 24.075 and 24.175, etc. but otherwise, it is greatly improved over TMF2.
 

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Very interesting that later-model Jeeps and Mazdas are not on the list. They are now notorious for spewing at 24.175 and below which drives the R7 bonkers.
 

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Mazdas don't seem to alert any more that I can recall.
 

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this is why I sold my R7 and now wait for V1G2
V1 continues to do internal research and firmware upgrades
Its also built to last
We can argue it and the R7 is a great detector
but being so constructed of pure plastic I felt it could carry me a year until V1 returned and that was it
It didn't seem like it was built to last or that the R&D at Uniden could match what Valentine is working on

Hopefully the stay at home order will be over soon in Ohio at Alliance Road like it is at ESCORT radae
 

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this is why I sold my R7 and now wait for V1G2
V1 continues to do internal research and firmware upgrades
Its also built to last
We can argue it and the R7 is a great detector
but being so constructed of pure plastic I felt it could carry me a year until V1 returned and that was it
It didn't seem like it was built to last or that the R&D at Uniden could match what Valentine is working on

Hopefully the stay at home order will be over soon in Ohio at Alliance Road like it is at ESCORT radae
This doesn't even make much sense. Uniden has done 3 to 4 firmware upgrades since it was released. Valentine hasn't released one yet. To date I have not heard of one R7 plastic case failing. The R7 had some issues but the V1 certainly is not trouble free either even with its hard case.
 

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This doesn't even make much sense. Uniden has done 3 to 4 firmware upgrades since it was released. Valentine hasn't released one yet. To date I have not heard of one R7 plastic case failing. The R7 had some issues but the V1 certainly is not trouble free either even with its hard case.
I'm both an early R7 adopter and a second generation Valentine adopter. The experience with the Valentine has been much more pleasant. The R7 as good as it may be wasn't as refined or polished at launch.

Both venders have had issues but Valentine(even under lockdown) has made good on their end with repairs. Repairs have been the made same day units were received and shipped back out. Try getting that level of service from Uniden.

P.S. Even with Uniden's three or four updates, the R7 still isn't as refined or as polished as a second generation Valentine.

Mazdas don't seem to alert any more that I can recall.
No issues with Mazda's here.
 
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Wow, that's so cool that they're actually listing out which cars cause the V1 to false, as well as a glimpse into expected improvements. :) I'm glad to see they're working on laser filtering!

The problem is there is absolutely ZERO reason to have one single laser false, none! The real issue is that Lidar Detection in a "Radar Detector" is basically next to useless so why bother for that one in a MILLION save because NOBODY can out brake/out react a Lidar Targeting Hit that is actually targeted specifically at one's vehicle.

We know that Mike Valentine and his engineers know this, SO why have the best overly sensitive broadband Lidar Receiving Diode that is no doubt going to generate more false alerts for just that one or two once in a Million Lidar Saves when it would be just as easy to pay for a more expensive narrow band detection diode plus add the circuitry that looks for 100, 400, or VPR transmissions before alerting, instead of Alerting to ANY received signals even out of band? This simple engineering would all but eliminate all false Lidar alerts except for that one in a million false! The reason VR probably doesn't bother eliminating all Laser False Alerts is because they also KNOW that Lidar Detection in a Radar Detector is next to USELESS!

Proof is in the pudding, how many Laser False Alerts do ALP and TMG get, not many and they have more heads and better sensitivity. My V1 goes nuts anytime a Google Mapping Vehicle is within LOS, not a peep out of my ALP in the SUV or the TMG in the Thunderbird even when right next to them at a traffic light.

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I'm both an early R7 adopter and a second generation Valentine adopter. The experience with the Valentine has been much more pleasant. The R7 as good as it may be wasn't as refined or polished at launch.

Both venders have had issues but Valentine(even under lockdown) has made good on their end with repairs. Repairs have been the made same day units were received and shipped back out. Try getting that level of service from Uniden.

P.S. Even with Uniden's three or four updates, the R7 still isn't as refined or as polished as a second generation Valentine.



No issues with Mazda's here.
As for refinement the app is more refined. As a standalone unit I don't see it and I have run both.
 

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As for refinement the app is more refined. As a standalone unit I don't see it and I have run both.
My second gen has been very refined and I don't run the app. BSM rejection is great, the arrows work great, the unit doesn't shake, ramp up has awesome as well.

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The problem is there is absolutely ZERO reason to have one single laser false, none! The real issue is that Lidar Detection in a "Radar Detector" is basically next to useless so why bother for that one in a MILLION save because NOBODY can out brake/out react a Lidar Targeting Hit that is actually targeted specifically at one's vehicle.

We know that Mike Valentine and his engineers know this, SO why have the best overly sensitive broadband Lidar Receiving Diode that is no doubt going to generate more false alerts for just that one or two once in a Million Lidar Saves when it would be just as easy to pay for a more expensive narrow band detection diode plus add the circuitry that looks for 100, 400, or VPR transmissions before alerting, instead of Alerting to ANY received signals even out of band? This simple engineering would all be eliminate all false Lidar alerts except for that one in a million false! The reason VR probably doesn't bother eliminating all Laser False Alerts is because they also KNOW that Lidar Detection in a Radar Detector is next to USELESS!

Proof is in the pudding, how many Laser False Alerts do ALP and TMG get, not many and they have more heads and better sensitivity. My V1 goes nuts anytime a Google Mapping Vehicle is within LOS, not a peep out of my ALP in the SUV or the TMG in the Thunderbird even when right next to them at a traffic light.

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Um, how often are you running across Google Mapping Vehicles that it's become a problem? I only ask because I think I've only seen one in my entire life.
 
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This doesn't even make much sense. Uniden has done 3 to 4 firmware upgrades since it was released. Valentine hasn't released one yet. To date I have not heard of one R7 plastic case failing. The R7 had some issues but the V1 certainly is not trouble free either even with its hard case.
Ray C It's really an R7 update when people are asking how to dial back to the previous version
But on the other hand they did give us the power of controlling the rear antenae
I thought someone mentioned the are working on release new units after the Stay at Home order with better Lasar filtering or perhaps i'm mistaken
 

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Many thanks for that :)

VR said:
2014 – 2016 Chevy Impala, Chevrolet SS
i.e. also the GM Holden VFII Commodore for us downunder (AU/NZ) on which the 2015 Chevy SS is based on :(
 

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Um, how often are you running across Google Mapping Vehicles that it's become a problem? I only ask because I think I've only seen one in my entire life.

Often, once a week to ever 10 days plus sometimes multiple times in one day. It appears they are doing something in Atlanta to get ready for self driving car tests.

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I like how Valentine is getting up with the times having phone firmware updates, and actually keeping the website updated!
 

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The problem is there is absolutely ZERO reason to have one single laser false, none! The real issue is that Lidar Detection in a "Radar Detector" is basically next to useless so why bother for that one in a MILLION save because NOBODY can out brake/out react a Lidar Targeting Hit that is actually targeted specifically at one's vehicle.
Not always, and not everywhere. I've seen very few Lidar traps outside of our major cities, the few (3) I have seen, I've been saved by scatter, picking up his Stalker that he left running, and Mk1 eyeballs. I saw him while he was targeting other traffic.
I'll take that scatter save, it was one in three. Actually two, the eyeball save was when I didn't have my V1 in the car.
But I rely on eyeballs more.
In our case it seems that cops have reserved Lidar for heavy commuter traffic in the bigger cities and rely on mobile radar so that they can patrol a greater area. Another reason could be the number of headlight flashers warning of Lidar traps.
But if Lidar becomes a greater threat I'll get another jammer.
 

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