Updated List of Mechanical Issues with the new V1G2

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There's not 100 failures.... :rolleyes:

Regarding the display section. There's a plastic frame that surrounds the display screen. That screen has been redesigned to some degree (very recently) and my personal guess is that it's maybe more flexible and/or has a different glue on it.
I counted the names on the first page. Maybe I can’t count, I certainly didn’t look to see if I’m counting duplicates. I think you’re like that marketing guy that sees the line graphs showing a negative aspect and you go up to it and turn it upside down and you’re “See, it’s all good, we’re fine.” Lol

Bottom line, it’s a shit ton of failures man, you can’t keep denying that. But hey, considering how shitty the Escort ones are, perhaps this is just the acceptable norm for the RD industry and I’m simply just surprised by the poor numbers. 🤷‍♂️
 

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I'm not a "marketing guy". I have better information and I've not made it my mission to complain in most threads.
You have cried wolf way too often to be taken seriously.
 

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Lol, well, so you’re saying the names listed in the OP are wrong? OK. It doesn’t matter if they sold 100k units and only 100 failed. 100 is still a lot of failures. This isn’t a comparison thing to figure out a damn ratio of sold to failure. This is 100 or so that we know of... there’s most likely more out there, but whatever.
 

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I don't think we can conclusively atribute the power issues to firmware. It might be the connection, but I'm not sure of that from what I've read.
Has anyone with the new firmware (4.1019?) experienced the power off issue? I haven't seen any posts, but may have missed it.

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Lol, well, so you’re saying the names listed in the OP are wrong? OK. It doesn’t matter if they sold 100k units and only 100 failed. 100 is still a lot of failures. This isn’t a comparison thing to figure out a damn ratio of sold to failure. This is 100 or so that we know of... there’s most likely more out there, but whatever.
I'm saying that I have better information than you do...
 

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Has anyone with the new firmware (4.1019?) experienced the power off issue? I haven't seen any posts, but may have missed it.

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Not that I know of. I've been running mine for "two weeks" LMAO, since getting my V1G2 back with 4.1019 and I've had no problems and no damn alerts either for that matter! I've been running it in 2 different Mustangs, an 04 with a universal hardwire kit that I've used for a couple of years with several R1's, Redline-O's and my 3.872 V1 with no issues. I rewired my 99 Mustang with my new V1G2 hardwire kit and it's working great as well. I never use the power button, just power it on and off with the ignition switch.
 

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Has anyone with the new firmware (4.1019?) experienced the power off issue? I haven't seen any posts, but may have missed it.

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I'd double check with the couple of guys that said they had the power on problem, sent it in to get it fixed, and got it back only to have it fail again.

They might have checked the firmware before it failed the second time. Otherwise, there's likely no way to know 100%. They obviously can't check it if it won't power on, and it seems everything coming from VR currently has .4019 on it.

I'm still a little perplexed about how a firmware could cause random failures where guys have owned the thing for 3 months and no problems, and other guys ran it for what seems like 3 hours and had a failure. That just doesn't grab me as a firmware issue.

@Bloovy One seems to have put a massive amount of time on his V1G2 in the 3 months that is been out. If it was some buffer overrun or checksum error problem, I would think he would have encountered it by now. It's weird.
 

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My unit is beginning to have delamination issues. I suppose leaving it out in the southern facing sun in Texas has taken its toll. I only noticed when I went to go change bogey modes and noticed my power button was sticking. Upon closer inspection, the screen had delaminated on the right and left side but I was able to push it back into place.

I have still not faced the power startup issue, yet. Only the occasional power flickering and Bluetooth connection drops.

S/N 2002. Took delivery on 3/22 so it's been roughly 102 days. Roughly 80% of that time has the unit been baking in the sun since my truck does not fit in the garage and my weekend car doesn't get driven much now. I am not sure when the screen delaminated but it is not as severe as some of the units we have seen on this thread. I plan to contact VR soon, but seeing as the unit still works, it is not my highest concern at the moment.
 
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Has anyone with the new firmware (4.1019?) experienced the power off issue? I haven't seen any posts, but may have missed it.

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I don't think the power issue is FW related since they were replacing boards. I believe the new FW may be to fix other bugs that some have experienced. Nobody really knows since there isn't a change log or anything and I'm not sure 4.1019 has been extensively tested yet by anyone in the community?
 

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I don't think the power issue is FW related since they were replacing boards. I believe the new FW may be to fix other bugs that some have experienced. Nobody really knows since there isn't a change log or anything and I'm not sure 4.1019 has been extensively tested yet by anyone in the community?
I originally thought so too. But @Jon at Radenso said it appears that the G2 was locking up and that it "may" have been a FW issue. And someone at VR mentioned to a forum member that it was a firmware issue.

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I'd double check with the couple of guys that said they had the power on problem, sent it in to get it fixed, and got it back only to have it fail again.

They might have checked the firmware before it failed the second time. Otherwise, there's likely no way to know 100%. They obviously can't check it if it won't power on, and it seems everything coming from VR currently has .4019 on it.

I'm still a little perplexed about how a firmware could cause random failures where guys have owned the thing for 3 months and no problems, and other guys ran it for what seems like 3 hours and had a failure. That just doesn't grab me as a firmware issue.

@Bloovy One seems to have put a massive amount of time on his V1G2 in the 3 months that is been out. If it was some buffer overrun or checksum error problem, I would think he would have encountered it by now. It's weird.
I’ve seen firmware bandaid hardware issues in electronic product before. Incorrectly spec’d supercapcitors causing batteries to blow up randomly during or after unit power down. Firmware tweaks implemented to minimize this while hardware changes were developed, tested, and deployed.

Just saying that there could be a legitimate hardware design issue in the G2 that is being band-aided by firmware. We don’t know for sure that the units which were repaired actually have redesigned hardware to address the power issue. It could be the same new hardware of the same PCB Rev with the new firmware being sent back to owners.
 

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I’ve seen firmware bandaid hardware issues in electronic product before. Incorrectly spec’d supercapcitors causing batteries to blow up randomly during or after unit power down. Firmware tweaks implemented to minimize this while hardware changes were developed, tested, and deployed.

Just saying that there could be a legitimate hardware design issue in the G2 that is being band-aided by firmware. We don’t know for sure that the units which were repaired actually have redesigned hardware to address the power issue. It could be the same new hardware of the same PCB Rev with the new firmware being sent back to owners.
True, but the main bottom boards are being replaced to fix the power-on issues from March.
 

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True, but the main bottom boards are being replaced to fix the power-on issues from March.
I agree that they are being replaced, but what are they being replaced with? Has it been confirmed that the PCB has been revised with new parts? Or is it a replacement board of the same vintage with the new firmware that is actually resolving the issue?
 

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I finally got some 34.7 action this morning! He was shooting I/O starting around a mile or so out. When I got in his kill zone he had left his Stalker in C/O mode and here's the best part! Only 2 bogeys during the whole encounter! He didn't switch antennas so it was all from the front. The first was 34.731. The last was 34.740. That's a far cry from the 15 or so I was getting before on 34.7 in the kill zone! I doubt it has anything to do with the new firmware, but I like it!
 

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Yeah it’s not a firmware issue causing the unit to die otherwise they would have already pushed this out ASAP.

@Kennyc56 that seems like the ghosting issue has been improved
At least on this encounter! I forgot to mention that long after he passed by me I got a 34.740 alert from my rear antenna. He had gone up and over a hill as well and I couldn't see a trace of him. Getting my V1G2 repaired damn sure didn't hurt my rear antenna!
 
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I finally got some 34.7 action this morning! He was shooting I/O starting around a mile or so out. When I got in his kill zone he had left his Stalker in C/O mode and here's the best part! Only 2 bogeys during the whole encounter! He didn't switch antennas so it was all from the front. The first was 34.731. The last was 34.740. That's a far cry from the 15 or so I was getting before on 34.7 in the kill zone! I doubt it has anything to do with the new firmware, but I like it!
It's possible that the ghosting issue is something addressed in the new FW. Maybe you and @VariableWave can do a little testing on that front? IIRC he sent his in pretty early and still has the older FW.
 

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