Older detector worth keeping or upgrade?

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Hey all, new here. These forums are chock full of info! I didn't see anything relating to my particular question, so here goes... I've got a 2015 9500ix (escort passport). I just updated it via the company software but I haven't paid for the speed trap/red light cam/etc database since it was new. These aren't things I generally worry about as I'm not prone to chancing running red lights and the like, so NBD. This isn't about Escort detectors per se, but just some questions about the radar environment changes in the last decade plus.

I've noticed in the last year or so a radical increase in false alerts. I used to drive to work (about 80 miles/1.7 hours average) and maybe get 2-3 alerts, give or take. Now, it's 20+ alerts. I'm constantly muting the detector. Damn near worthless because it's "crying wolf" so much I can't tell whether or not it's a real threat or...what? Is it other vehicle's adaptive cruise control radar? Anticollision radar? What's triggering my detector so often now? Will a firmware and database update help, or is my detector just so far out of date as far as capabilities go that I should just chuck it and buy new?
 

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Upgrade bro
And welcome.

Many non speed enforcement uses exist and use radar for everything (including doors as you know ) , blind spot monitors , etc

The new stuff can filter it and does so at great speed and efficiency , while not costing you a legitimate alert.
And the new stuff will have the red light alerts and speed cam databases built in .

Take a look around.
 

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It's mostly radar based blind spot monitoring (BSM) systems on cars, with Acura/Honda, Chrysler Pacificas, and GMs are the worst offenders. Unfortunately this is not something easily fixed with a firmware update and Escort, and this is my opinion, has moved on from the 9500ix and is focusing on newer detectors for updates and improvements.

As far as what to get new, if you copy from How to Ask for A Radar Detector recommendation the membership here can generally give you a recommendation. There are some technological earthquakes coming in this industry soon and it will all depend on what your budget is and your appetite for holding out until a revolutionary new detector is released.
 

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Ahhh crap. So my detector is out of date and no firmware update will help filtering anything out. Damn, I hate to chuck it; it was expensive back in the day, but I don't need another piece of useless tech laying about.

OK, so I hate to be yet another "What radar detector should I buy?" because forums like this are full of stuff like that. A quick look around really shows things have changed quite a bit and people are using active laser "jamming" and front/rear detectors to boot instead of the single windshield mount. Where here can I best read abut detectors and their capabilities for my situation? I live in NY if it helps any, wildly mixed driving environemnt (City, secondary highway, metro, major throughway all in the same commute).

Thanks very much for all the quick replies!
 

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Ahhh crap. So my detector is out of date and no firmware update will help filtering anything out. Damn, I hate to chuck it; it was expensive back in the day, but I don't need another piece of useless tech laying about.

OK, so I hate to be yet another "What radar detector should I buy?" because forums like this are full of stuff like that. A quick look around really shows things have changed quite a bit and people are using active laser "jamming" and front/rear detectors to boot instead of the single windshield mount. Where here can I best read abut detectors and their capabilities for my situation? I live in NY if it helps any, wildly mixed driving environemnt (City, secondary highway, metro, major throughway all in the same commute).

Thanks very much for all the quick replies!
there is a lot of info here, test data for range is here: https://www.rdforum.org/index.php?threads/56827/ as far as filtering false alerts, there isn't a concise list of tsting on that.

From experience, the best for filtering is the radenso PRO-M another good option is the uniden R3, as you can block out many common BSM cars with kblock, TSF filters others and you have adjustable kband sensitivity to help you balance Kband range and false alerts further. As well as low speed muting and lockouts... so look into those. some of us do have front and rear capable radar detecotrs, but it's not always needed, it's nice to have a little moresensitivity to the rear in some cases and the arrows to help you know where the signal is coming from is also nice information but not needed for sure. I often drive with only a uniden R1 up front and am perfectly comfortable.

RD's are great for Radar, but pretty useless for laser so that where some folks run laser protection like ALP. Waze is another good tool as well as you probably have a fair number of waze users in your area that can mark police traps ahead of you.
 

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Ahhh crap. So my detector is out of date and no firmware update will help filtering anything out. Damn, I hate to chuck it; it was expensive back in the day, but I don't need another piece of useless tech laying about.

OK, so I hate to be yet another "What radar detector should I buy?" because forums like this are full of stuff like that. A quick look around really shows things have changed quite a bit and people are using active laser "jamming" and front/rear detectors to boot instead of the single windshield mount. Where here can I best read abut detectors and their capabilities for my situation? I live in NY if it helps any, wildly mixed driving environemnt (City, secondary highway, metro, major throughway all in the same commute).

Thanks very much for all the quick replies!
How to Ask for A Radar Detector recommendation
 

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I don't know how enthusiastic you are nor what your financial capabilities are, but if I may, I'd like to make a suggestion. It is coming up on a year since Valentine quit selling new units. Rumors are something new is coming out. Radenso has announced what may be a real game changer, their Theia. You can read all about it here on RDF. Hopefully they will start shipping in 2020. In the meantime, since you cannot right now buy a Valentine or a Theia, I'd suggest pick up a Uniden DFR6, a very basic no GPS unit with pretty good range & filtering. It is discontinued but you can still get one off of Amazon, this morning I see one for $127.78. It is the earlier version of the current DFR8. Then wait and see what Valentine & Radenso do.
 

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Gotcha. I''l have a go at a request. Thanks again for the quikc replies.
I don't know how enthusiastic you are nor what your financial capabilities are, but if I may, I'd like to make a suggestion. It is coming up on a year since Valentine quit selling new units. Rumors are something new is coming out. Radenso has announced what may be a real game changer, their Theia. You can read all about it here on RDF. Hopefully they will start shipping in 2020. In the meantime, since you cannot right now buy a Valentine or a Theia, I'd suggest pick up a Uniden DFR6, a very basic no GPS unit with pretty good range & filtering. It is discontinued but you can still get one off of Amazon, this morning I see one for $127.78. It is the earlier version of the current DFR8. Then wait and see what Valentine & Radenso do.

Thanks for the info. I could do ~$400 or so, but cheaper is always better. It's balancing capabilities and whether or not whatever incremental gain in features provides any real value for the increase in cost. I also started a recommendation request thread.
 

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Ahhh crap. So my detector is out of date and no firmware update will help filtering anything out. Damn, I hate to chuck it; it was expensive back in the day, but I don't need another piece of useless tech laying about.

OK, so I hate to be yet another "What radar detector should I buy?" because forums like this are full of stuff like that. A quick look around really shows things have changed quite a bit and people are using active laser "jamming" and front/rear detectors to boot instead of the single windshield mount. Where here can I best read abut detectors and their capabilities for my situation? I live in NY if it helps any, wildly mixed driving environemnt (City, secondary highway, metro, major throughway all in the same commute).

Thanks very much for all the quick replies!
Correct. The 9500ix cannot be upgraded to their new IVT filtering with just a firmware update. The 9500is was actually replaced several years ago by a new model call IX. Don't buy this detector, the new filtering is not 100% digital on this model (IX) and it is not as effective. They also stopped pushing updates out on this model already which is kinda crappy.
 

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I don't know how enthusiastic you are nor what your financial capabilities are, but if I may, I'd like to make a suggestion. It is coming up on a year since Valentine quit selling new units. Rumors are something new is coming out. Radenso has announced what may be a real game changer, their Theia. You can read all about it here on RDF. Hopefully they will start shipping in 2020. In the meantime, since you cannot right now buy a Valentine or a Theia, I'd suggest pick up a Uniden DFR6, a very basic no GPS unit with pretty good range & filtering. It is discontinued but you can still get one off of Amazon, this morning I see one for $127.78. It is the earlier version of the current DFR8. Then wait and see what Valentine & Radenso do.
Another thought is snag a DFR7 and use it until You get a new top end RD...then You will have the DFR7 for a 2nd car RD and a backup unit as well.
I have been Very pleased with the performance of the DFR7 here in the area where PA, NJ, and NY come together.
It's not too chatty and is a Serious Ka performer!
Even off-axis detection is excellent IMO.
Just My 2 cents worth!
Doc
 
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