Recommendation for a 2020 civic si and a heavy foot?

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I haven’t bought a RD in quite a while. I used an Escort for years in a WRX and it served me well. Because of BSM, it only screams full time. I need a new one. Thank you all in advance.

1. What kind of vehicle you have and do you want a remote or a windshield mount?

2020 Honda Civic Si , windshield mount.

2. What's your budget?

open




3. Where you live ( address not needed of course) and what states , country or areas you primarily drive? ( this is essential)

mostly Boston area and the rest of New England.

4. How you drive?

I drive somewhat fast, usually 10mph over much of the time , and well over that on the highway


5. What your daily drive is like (short trips? long trips? city? highway?) we ask this because of falsing issues that exist in many areas or cities.

mostly long trips on highway with short trips in smaller towns and sometimes in the city.

6. How long you have been using countermeasures, if at all?

10 years +


7. Are there curves, hills, obstructions or is the area flat as a pancake.

plenty of curves hills and other obstructions. Some flat straights mixed in on highway.


8. Are there Redlight cams/speed cams in your area and do you need / prefer a GPS enabled unit?

I don’t believe thereis much RL cams or speed cams around here but not sure. GPS might be nice, but I’m not married to the idea



9. Thanks to ahl: "Are you willing/do you want to use your phone to pair with the RD?" and "What kind of device do you own (iOS/Android)". There is Escort LIVE and droid only YaV1 for the V1 apps one can use to adjust their RD. There is also V1 Driver in the ios APP Store for V1 users who wish to use an Apple device. ** Note that many of these apps allow you to use the APP (either droid or Apple) to readjust your settings for the V1. Escort Live allows you to do this as well on Escort products that are LIVE compatible.

I am willing to use my phone with RD , I use an iPhone


10. Do you face MRCD and/or MRCT in your area?

I don’t think so, yet. Massachusetts loves spending loot and setting up LEOs , so I wouldn’t be surprised if they get heated up in the near future.

thanks again !
 

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Welcome to the forum!! Does your 2020 Civic have BSM? Also, are you wanting a detector with arrows with front and rear antennas or just a radar detector with a front antenna and no arrows?

I personally think the Uniden R3 is a really good value and offers great performance in a GPS detector. The R7 is more expensive, but it has arrows and front and rear antennas and similar performance as the R3. I own a R3, and it is an excellent radar detector IMO. I don’t own a R7, but I have an Escort Max360c which I like. The Max360 is less expensive and offers similar performance to the Max360c which may be another option for you. The Escorts have slightly better BSM filtering IMO, but the R series is more sensitive.

If you can wait, Valentine Research hopefully or may have an updated V1 by the end of February 2020 in stock, but that is just speculation as the V1 has been out of stock since April of 2019.

The Radenso Pro-M is another solid choice which offers solid performance with very good BSM filtering. Radenso also has announced their upcoming Theia which will be released sometime in 2020 which should be a revolutionary radar detector and probably very expensive.

Good luck with your choice. I think I would Recommend a Uniden R3 or a Uniden R7 (if you want arrows) if you’re wanting to buy a radar detector soon.





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Welcome to the forum!! Does your 2020 Civic have BSM? Also, are you wanting a detector with arrows with front and rear antennas or just a radar detector with a front antenna and no arrows?




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Welcome to the forum!! Does your 2020 Civic have BSM? Also, are you wanting a detector with arrows with front and rear antennas or just a radar detector with a front antenna and no arrows?




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yes , it has BSM and al sorts of stuff that they call Honda Sensing , forward collision warnings , etc.. Not sure if arrows matter much to me. Certainly open to suggestions.
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Imo if you have a heavy foot, arrows are entirely necessary. You just have to experience it. A RD without arrows is blind, at least to me.
 

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Imo if you have a heavy foot, arrows are entirely necessary. You just have to experience it. A RD without arrows is blind, at least to me.
I’ve never used one with arrows, but maybe I should. My very old Escort was good when I got it a long while back, before BSM was everywhere. It was basically a cop detector and warned me well in advance of any LEOs in the area. This slowed me down and then I’d start the game of looking for the LEO.
The old one is useless now and I feel totally naked without one.
 

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yes , it has BSM and al sorts of stuff that they call Honda Sensing , forward collision warnings , etc.. Not sure if arrows matter much to me. Certainly open to suggestions.
thanks again.
I edited my response in my prior post to add some recommendations. Honda BSM’s are difficult to filter for most detectors. I probably would lean toward a Uniden R3 or a Radenso Pro-M. Maybe someone on the Forum has a newer Honda with BSM that could chime in if the BSM causes problems with false alarms. I would be more concerned with a super sensitive R7 with a rear antenna which may pick up the Civic’s BSM. I am not sure what K-band frequency your BSM transmits.

My wife’s prior vehicle and her current vehicle had/have BSMs that are difficult to filter, but we never had/have a problem with BSM false alarms running a Uniden R3 in either vehicle.


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I would vote R3 or R7. You have challenging terrain and used to like longer detections. You could purchase with an eye towards the return policy of the vendor and return if it is a BSM issue.

Use Waze and consider Laser Jammers if your budget allows.
 

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I edited my response in my prior post to add some recommendations. Honda BSM’s are difficult to filter for most detectors. I probably would lean toward a Uniden R3 or a Radenso Pro-M. Maybe someone on the Forum has a newer Honda with BSM that could chime in if the BSM causes problems with false alarms. I would be more concerned with a super sensitive R7 with a rear antenna which may pick up the Civic’s BSM. I am not sure what K-band frequency your BSM transmits.

My wife’s prior vehicle and her current vehicle had/have BSMs that are difficult to filter, but we never had/have a problem with BSM false alarms running a Uniden R3 in either vehicle.


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Interesting. The Pro-M seems to be one of the favs with a lot of people.
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I would vote R3 or R7. You have challenging terrain and used to like longer detections. You could purchase with an eye towards the return policy of the vendor and return if it is a BSM issue.

Use Waze and consider Laser Jammers if your budget allows.
The R7 is tempting , based on the sensitivity reputation.
 
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Consider waiting on Theia and budget for ALP

If you have to bridge the gap I recommend R7. It will be chatty.
 

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Consider waiting on Theia and budget for ALP

If you have to bridge the gap I recommend R7. It will be chatty.
I don’t think I can wait, especially not knowing until when. Definitely need to bridge the gap.
 

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I'd go for the R7, I've seen them dip around $450 recently pretty solid pricing. It's SURPRISINGLY quiet. I don't have BSM in my car running, but it filters out a lot of noise on the road, paired with Q-ride and Band sensitivty. The arrows are nice touch, definitely helps in knowing if it's a false or a real alert.

Plus, it's funny running it in dark mode.
 

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I am also curious about what opinions are of the Escort iXc? It’s advertised as having long range and good filtering. My old Escort was really good to me, but it seems, according to posts that I’ve read, that Escort’s may not be what they used to be.
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I'd go for the R7, I've seen them dip around $450 recently pretty solid pricing. It's SURPRISINGLY quiet. I don't have BSM in my car running, but it filters out a lot of noise on the road, paired with Q-ride and Band sensitivty. The arrows are nice touch, definitely helps in knowing if it's a false or a real alert.

Plus, it's funny running it in dark mode.
Another nod to the R7. Again, the range reputation makes it tempting. Anyone have experience with this unit running in a new Honda with all the Honda Sensing jazz?
 
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Since your budget is open, I'd suggest an R7, 360c, or Radenso Pro M.
iXc is a waste of money:
You can get the R7 refurbished on eBay for $400. Laser jammers are your main concern with the highway driving. TMG starts at $550ish and ALP a bit over $800.
 

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Fellow Boston native! I have had great success with my R3 for almost the past year in this area. Sensitivity is a must with how dense our terrain is up here.

Your two biggest threats are going to be 35.5 and K band. There has been a resurgence in K band in this area in recent time, and almost all of the places I drive in the area have K band in some form. I don't know your exact area, but everyone from locals to MASP actively use K band today. For this reason alone, you need a a detector that allows you to decipher a real alert from a false alert. I had to dial in my R3 to get it just right, but it still can be chatty. I can see the R7 possibly being even more chatty than the R3. A lot of people recommend the Pro M for quiet and reliable K band performance too. I personally have a friend (not on the forum) who uses one in the area and swears by it.

35.5 is also out there in droves, both Decatur and Kustom guns. 35.5 is a tough Ka frequency to detect, especially with this terrain. That's part of the reason I went with the R3, due to it's great 35.5 performance. Pro M will also be good at this, but not quite as solid as the R series.
 

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Since your budget is open, I'd suggest an R7, 360c, or Radenso Pro M.
iXc is a waste of money:
You can get the R7 refurbished on eBay for $400. Laser jammers are your main concern with the highway driving. TMG starts at $550ish and ALP a bit over $800.
Right on. So I guess I will pass on the iXc.
I knew there must be a reason nobody is praising this unit. Thank you.
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Fellow Boston native! I have had great success with my R3 for almost the past year in this area. Sensitivity is a must with how dense our terrain is up here.

Your two biggest threats are going to be 35.5 and K band. There has been a resurgence in K band in this area in recent time, and almost all of the places I drive in the area have K band in some form. I don't know your exact area, but everyone from locals to MASP actively use K band today. For this reason alone, you need a a detector that allows you to decipher a real alert from a false alert. I had to dial in my R3 to get it just right, but it still can be chatty. I can see the R7 possibly being even more chatty than the R3. A lot of people recommend the Pro M for quiet and reliable K band performance too. I personally have a friend (not on the forum) who uses one in the area and swears by it.

35.5 is also out there in droves, both Decatur and Kustom guns. 35.5 is a tough Ka frequency to detect, especially with this terrain. That's part of the reason I went with the R3, due to it's great 35.5 performance. Pro M will also be good at this, but not quite as solid as the R series.
Thanks for all the valuable info. I really appreciate it. I think maybe I’m leaning towards the Pro M. So long as the range is still good enough, I like the idea of it dealing with BSM jazz better. I can dig the smaller size as well.
Also, I realize that detecting laser is as useful as boobs on a bull, but does the Pro M , in fact detect them ?
 
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Right on. So I guess I will pass on the iXc.
I knew there must be a reason nobody is praising this unit. Thank you.
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Thanks for all the valuable info. I really appreciate it. I think maybe I’m leaning towards the Pro M. So long as the range is still good enough, I like the idea of it dealing with BSM jazz better. I can dig the smaller size as well.
Also, I realize that detecting laser is as useful as boobs on a bull, but does the Pro M , in fact detect them ?
If you want to give the Pro M a shot, I can mail you one I tested with for the going used rate on the forum.

Not even the V1, known as the best at laser, is capable of picking up every encounter. I got a laser ticket that it didn’t alert to. The Pro M is worse at this. Get jammers if you face laser. I’ve seen PL3 in your area; you need them.
 

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I am also curious about what opinions are of the Escort iXc? It’s advertised as having long range and good filtering. My old Escort was really good to me, but it seems, according to posts that I’ve read, that Escort’s may not be what they used to be.

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I had the original iX which I sold in late 2018. I wouldn’t recommend the original iX due to it’s less than stellar BSM filtering and lack of support and software updates from Escort. It did have good sensitivity. The iXc has been reported to be improved, but I wouldn’t waste my money on it after feeling “burned” by Escort and their misleading advertising regarding the original iX having an upgradable IVT filter, but later Escort said the IVT filtering couldn’t be updated (and it never was) because the iX was an analog detector and not a true digital platform.

I would choose the R3 over the iXc 100% of the time. I am attaching a link from You Tube with Vortex discussing the newly announced iXc from a while back with someone from Cedar Electronics which highlights the iXc and the improvements over the iX which I had. It sounds like you have moved on from considering the iXc, but I thought I would attach this link for you to see - RoadDogg





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Yeah, if the iXc was actually as advertised, I think I’d be after it, but I get the feeling that too many people have been let down by Escort for me to trust it. Too bad.
 

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Yeah, if the iXc was actually as advertised, I think I’d be after it, but I get the feeling that too many people have been let down by Escort for me to trust it. Too bad.
The iXc May be better than the original iX, but I personally wouldn’t buy one based on my personal experience with the original iX, plus I have personally had such a positive experience with the Uniden R3, I personally would buy an R3 over the iX. Plus, you can get an R3 for a lower price now than the iXc right now. It is too bad for Escort. The iX was a good detector, but it did have “areas of opportunity” with its BSM/IVT filtering.

Also, I really don’t know if the iXc’s IVT filter is truly updatable. Escort said the original iX did have an updatable IVT filter (on the box and in its advertising) , but Escort never updated the IVT filter, and I believe Escort later admitted that the original iX IVT filter was not updatable due to the iX having an analog platform vs being a true digital detector.

I did buy an Escort Max360c after I sold my iX and after buying two Uniden R3s. I have sent my current Max360c in for service twice, and I am thinking (as of today), they have fixed all of the issues I was experiencing, and I really like my Max360c a lot (as I do my remaining R3 that I still own). The Max360c offers very good BSM filtering IMO (significantly better than my original iX) and very overall performance IMO.

No manufacturer currently makes a problem free detector, and I understand that. Escort does get a bad rap at times, but there are also some people that have had issues with Uniden as well. Personally, I enjoy using any brand of radar detector that works well and meets my expectations. For some, Escort and/or Uniden does or doesn’t meet their expectations or needs. I guess you can say that about any radar detector manufacturer.

At the end of the day, you just have to choose what is going to work best for you based on the information that you have.

Whatever you choose, I hope it works out well for you. It sounds like you are considering some good detectors. Good luck with your decision!!






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