Pro-M vs R7?

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Hi, new here, so sorry if this is in the wrong spot or mentioned before.
For the past week or so been looking at higher end RD's and I think I've settled on either the Radenso Pro-M or the Uniden R7, they are about the same price right now on amazon so price isnt really a factor. I guess where I'm stuck at is Pro-M, no rear antenna which after seeing my dads V1 for the past 10 years I think I want, and the Pro-M has no data over the power cable and I plan on hard wiring and I think I might want that as well. Where I'm stuck on R7, MRCD support does not seem to be as good going off most of the stuff I've seen but those seem to be slightly older threads/videos, and how good are the updates? I know everyone praises the Radenso for their willingness to listen to their users, how good is Uniden on this? Also I'm on the western side of KY. I know that MRCD is not used here...yet... but I would like to be prepared for if/when it is. I know there is no perfect detector out there but I would like to try and find the best option between these. Thanks for the input

also side note. I havent seen any reports of this but figured Id double check. I have a 19 ford fusion, any issues with the blindspot sensors?
 

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First, fill out the questionnaire in this https://www.rdforum.org/index.php?threads/30846/ first post and repost it here.

Generally, if you want arrows and don't face MRCD/MRCT, I'd recommend the R7 unless you're constantly in city traffic. Even then, you can always turn the sensitivity down on the R7 for k-band. You don't get quietness for free in any current detectors, Even in the ProM.
 

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1. Car: 2019 Ford Fusion, wanting windshield mount
2. Price: Pro-M or R7
3. Location:Louisville KY (In the city primarily)
4. Driving Behavior: Politely? Tend to go a little faster when there isnt much traffic or on highway
5. Daily Drive: 50/50 city roads and highway to/from work. usually take a onceish a month trip to Cincinnati
6. Counter Measures: N/a
7. Road Conditions: Everything this is pretty windy and anywhere that is fairly straight is either highway or will be very heavy traffic in city
8. RLC: No speed cams that I know of but want GPS for shopping centers, speed signs, etc.
9. Apps/Phone:Not against It but usually upgrade yearly so would prefer the app is easy to setup again. Using Galaxy s10
10. MRCD: Not currently
 

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For the winding roads, I would recommend the sensitivity of the R7. When in the city you can dial down the sensitivity in advanced mode or use city mode. There are also other features to keep things more quiet like low speed muting.

If you like the directional arrows on the V1 like your dad has and really want that feature, that eliminates the Pro M. If you want to be able to mute the detector from the power cord, that also eliminates the Pro M. You can also change the brightness using the R7 power cord. The R7 uses a RJ11 port, the Pro M a barrel connector.

From reading the forum for the past couple years, the Pro M seems to win when it comes to BSM filtering, but you won’t have the sensitivity of the R7. The Pro M is no slouch though. I’d recommend checking out the countermeasure testing results section to see how they compare in range under different conditions and against different radar guns.

As far as I know, the R7 doesn’t false to any Fords, but I can’t guarantee I’ve passed any 2019 Fusions specifically. I haven’t heard of any Fords being an issue for the Pro M either.

Both detectors are capable of manual lockouts for stationary false alerts like shopping centers.

If you don’t currently face MRCD, I wouldn’t make that a deciding factor, unless you know MRCD is supposed to hit your area soon. Just as a FYI though, the Pro M is the recommended detector when MRCD is a threat. Currently, the R7 lacks performance in this area, but is supposedly being worked on by Uniden.

Uniden is working on a firmware update for the R7 to improve some things and maybe add some additional features. They used to release firmware updates more quickly back when the R1 & R3 were their flagship detectors, but have since slowed down in that area (I won’t get into the reason for this here). I believe they are taking their time to try and release a firmware update that is stable instead of rushing it. Your guess is as good as mine though.

Radenso is active here on the forum and they have some exciting things coming in 2020. Perhaps you’ve heard of Theia? They recently released updates for the Pro M and their remote system, the RC M. They are radar detector and car enthusiasts, so that helps a ton! They seem like a great group of people.
 

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Radenso is active here on the forum and they have some exciting things coming in 2020. Perhaps you’ve heard of Theia? They recently released updates for the Pro M and their remote system, the RC M. They are radar detector and car enthusiasts, so that helps a ton! They seem like a great group of people.
Thanks for all the info! I guess I'm more of just looking for others opinions more than anything, I've researched the hell out of these over the last week and know all the features, ranges, etc but still very new to what I should be looking for for best frequency response/performance in my area. I have heard of theia but haven't really looked into it. Is it going to be an update for the pro or is it a completely new detector? I saw a video of, I think, Jon talking about how they are going to be able to even tell stuff like what gun is firing based of the slight variations in signal etc which sounded fantastic.
 

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Thanks for all the info! I guess I'm more of just looking for others opinions more than anything, I've researched the hell out of these over the last week and know all the features, ranges, etc but still very new to what I should be looking for for best frequency response/performance in my area. I have heard of theia but haven't really looked into it. Is it going to be an update for the pro or is it a completely new detector? I saw a video of, I think, Jon talking about how they are going to be able to even tell stuff like what gun is firing based of the slight variations in signal etc which sounded fantastic.
I always gravitate to whatever has the most sensitivity and range due to the challenging terrain in my area. I don’t mind some chattiness from BSM and what not. I don’t even use lockouts even though the R7 is capable of them. If it was between the original Escort Redline & the R7, well both are fantastic on range, but the Redline has zero filtering, so that would be a no brainer (unless you lived in California), but that’s beside the point. If it’s possible for you, you can always buy both detectors from a place that has a good return policy, try them out (one at a time), and then return the one you like the least.

Here is the main thread on Theia:


Lots to read, but once you’re done, you’ll know everything I and the rest of the members here know so far about Radensos new and upcoming detector (so no, not an update for the Pro M, not even close)

There are also other threads in the Radenso section on the topic, so have a look when you have time.
 

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I’m with the others.

Both the R7 and Pro-M are great detectors.
Want the best range and sensitivity with arrows... R7

Want the quietest detector on the market that’s great in handling BSM false alerts ... Pro-M.

There’s a couple of other things.

R7 accurate frequency display. Eg. 24.142 34.768, 35.589
Pro-M rounds off to the nearest common threat for the display. Eg. Same guns the R7 see’s and it will pick it up, but will display 24.150, 34.700, 35.500

More colour choices on the R7 display.
Pro-M is red

R7 has 2 meter display choices.

R7 can be muted on the power plugin
Pro-M has a clown nose that kills the power only.

R7 is fairly large in size
Pro-M is tiny.

Pro-M speaker is louder.

Pro-M has an AutoCity mode. You can set the speed where the detector jumps from City sensitivity and city filters to Highway mode and no filters for maximum sensitivity and range.

The R7 has factory set parameters in City mode and highway mode. You can adjust the sensitivity in “Advanced Mode”, but those settings do not change the City setting or Highway setting. Basically, if you have it in “Advanced”, and you have your K band at 60% sensitivity, it’ll stay like that no matter the speed. You can manually adjust it in Advanced, but it won’t do it automatically.

Pro-M has room for 2600 manual lockouts.
R7 has adjustable quotas for manual lockouts and user marks. The total is 2000.

Neither the Pro-M or R7 are that good for Lidar. None really are. More of a marketing thing and we use the term “Ticket Notifier”. If it goes off, the Leo already has your speed.

You don’t need it, but if you think MRCD or MRCT is going to be a problem in the near future.... it’s the Pro-M hands down. There’s nothing that detects it better on the market today than both Radenso’s. ( Pro-M & RC-M)

Each, Pro-M and R7, are getting better with each Firmware update. When they come out is like rolling the dice.

Lockouts on the Pro-M are managed by GPS. If you have a K band door opener locked out, all the k band signals 800/1100 feet before and after will be locked out.

On the R7, same door opener, if a 2nd K band signal gets introduced like a Leo shooting a k gun further down the road, and it’s within */- .035 MHz of the door opener, the R7 will see it, show it, but it won’t audibly alert to it. If you were not looking at the detector, you could possibly drive right past it and never know unless you were watching the frequency display and noticed the frequency changed. It won’t release the lockout and stay silent like it was a 2nd lockout. I know Uniden is working on it, but they’ve been working on it for a while. That might get fixed in the future.... but at this moment... that’s how it reacts and what it does.

The R7 rear antenna is not adjustable right now. Another project they’re working on... but like the lockouts.. this is what it’s like. It makes it pretty noisy even after you’ve past the threat. It’s worse if they’re shooting you from behind.

R7 can lockout K and Ka false alerts.
Pro-M can only lockout K band false alerts.

R7’s Ka detection is always at 100% when in City or Highway mode. It’s adjustable only in Advanced Mode.

The Pro-M’s Ka detection is between 40 and 60% when in City Mode of what it can do in Highway Mode.

There’s 9 levels of filtering for X, K, and Ka in City mode in the Pro-M
Eg: City mode K filter at 0 = 6500 feet. K filter at 9= 1100 feet. Just an example.

The R7 can set the alerts for Signal priority (whatever’s strongest) or Ka Priority. Lidar and MRCD/MRCT still trumps Ka, K, or X

The Pro-M
Lidar>MRCD/MRCT >Ka>K>X

There’s more, but there are some of the unique pros and cons between the 2 detectors.

I have both but I face a lot of MRCD so the R7 is relegated to testing and occasional use only for me.
 

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and the Pro-M has no data over the power cable and I plan on hard wiring and I think I might want that as well.
I have a Pro-M and is hard wired to the fuse box, and it has a barrel connector. Also, just because a detector has a RJ11 doesn't mean that it is "data".. None of the Uniden R7, R1 etc, actually use any form of "data" with that cable.
 

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I have both of these detectors.
What @Heywood states above is factual and informative.
All that considered my factor here is:
R7 pricing has fallen. Given an equal price between the 2 I would take the R7 every time unless;
I was always city driving or faced MRCD frequently.
The Auto City mode on the Pro M is very adjustable and useful. It's on 100% of the time while in my city. Only on highway when hitting the open road but because of the auto features you are covered if you forget.
R7 you can have the same but must manually change from Hwy, Adv, Cty.
I have hilly, twisty, mountainous, treed roads here.
R7 is by far the choice for my roads outside of downtown.
 

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I have a Pro-M and is hard wired to the fuse box, and it has a barrel connector. Also, just because a detector has a RJ11 doesn't mean that it is "data".. None of the Uniden R7, R1 etc, actually use any form of "data" with that cable.
When I said data I meant the ability to have like a remote mute button, etc. I also guess I should clarify on hard wiring a bit. My car does not have any ignition controlled outlets so I actually put a 3 dc port hub tapped into the fuse box (where it is ignition controlled) so I could also run things like my dash cam, etc. and not have to keep snipping wire ends or w/e. So with the Radenso or more with the R7 if I were to get a hard wire kit I would actually just put a standard DC connector on the end of it so I can just plug it into the tap which is wayyyyy easier to access in my case than trying to add another fuse tap. Out of curiosity how long is the Radenso cable? and thanks to you, mattguy and heywood for the input. much appreciated.

Also Heywood small question for you. You said "On the R7, same door opener, if a 2nd K band signal gets introduced like a Leo shooting a k gun further down the road, and it’s within */- .035 MHz". If the gun is outside of that range does it trigger an audible alert? Or just once you're in the lockout zone any kband is muted. They are phasing out Kband according to the geo survey in my area so I dont think that would be a big deal either way.
 

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This thread should answer exactly what your asking.

Post automatically merged:

Cord length?

Post 46 of this thread.


 
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I have both of these detectors.
What @Heywood states above is factual and informative.
All that considered my factor here is:
R7 pricing has fallen. Given an equal price between the 2 I would take the R7 every time unless;
I was always city driving or faced MRCD frequently.
The Auto City mode on the Pro M is very adjustable and useful. It's on 100% of the time while in my city. Only on highway when hitting the open road but because of the auto features you are covered if you forget.
R7 you can have the same but must manually change from Hwy, Adv, Cty.
I have hilly, twisty, mountainous, treed roads here.
R7 is by far the choice for my roads outside of downtown.
I missed your post earlier, this is exactly what I wanted. Thanks! R7 has been ordered, Sorry Radenso, maybe Ill switch to Theia when it arrives.
 

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I’m with the others.

Both the R7 and Pro-M are great detectors.
Want the best range and sensitivity with arrows... R7

Want the quietest detector on the market that’s great in handling BSM false alerts ... Pro-M.

There’s a couple of other things.

R7 accurate frequency display. Eg. 24.142 34.768, 35.589
Pro-M rounds off to the nearest common threat for the display. Eg. Same guns the R7 see’s and it will pick it up, but will display 24.150, 34.700, 35.500

More colour choices on the R7 display.
Pro-M is red

R7 has 2 meter display choices.

R7 can be muted on the power plugin
Pro-M has a clown nose that kills the power only.

R7 is fairly large in size
Pro-M is tiny.

Pro-M speaker is louder.

Pro-M has an AutoCity mode. You can set the speed where the detector jumps from City sensitivity and city filters to Highway mode and no filters for maximum sensitivity and range.

The R7 has factory set parameters in City mode and highway mode. You can adjust the sensitivity in “Advanced Mode”, but those settings do not change the City setting or Highway setting. Basically, if you have it in “Advanced”, and you have your K band at 60% sensitivity, it’ll stay like that no matter the speed. You can manually adjust it in Advanced, but it won’t do it automatically.

Pro-M has room for 2600 manual lockouts.
R7 has adjustable quotas for manual lockouts and user marks. The total is 2000.

Neither the Pro-M or R7 are that good for Lidar. None really are. More of a marketing thing and we use the term “Ticket Notifier”. If it goes off, the Leo already has your speed.

You don’t need it, but if you think MRCD or MRCT is going to be a problem in the near future.... it’s the Pro-M hands down. There’s nothing that detects it better on the market today than both Radenso’s. ( Pro-M & RC-M)

Each, Pro-M and R7, are getting better with each Firmware update. When they come out is like rolling the dice.

Lockouts on the Pro-M are managed by GPS. If you have a K band door opener locked out, all the k band signals 800/1100 feet before and after will be locked out.

On the R7, same door opener, if a 2nd K band signal gets introduced like a Leo shooting a k gun further down the road, and it’s within */- .035 MHz of the door opener, the R7 will see it, show it, but it won’t audibly alert to it. If you were not looking at the detector, you could possibly drive right past it and never know unless you were watching the frequency display and noticed the frequency changed. It won’t release the lockout and stay silent like it was a 2nd lockout. I know Uniden is working on it, but they’ve been working on it for a while. That might get fixed in the future.... but at this moment... that’s how it reacts and what it does.

The R7 rear antenna is not adjustable right now. Another project they’re working on... but like the lockouts.. this is what it’s like. It makes it pretty noisy even after you’ve past the threat. It’s worse if they’re shooting you from behind.

R7 can lockout K and Ka false alerts.
Pro-M can only lockout K band false alerts.

R7’s Ka detection is always at 100% when in City or Highway mode. It’s adjustable only in Advanced Mode.

The Pro-M’s Ka detection is between 40 and 60% when in City Mode of what it can do in Highway Mode.

There’s 9 levels of filtering for X, K, and Ka in City mode in the Pro-M
Eg: City mode K filter at 0 = 6500 feet. K filter at 9= 1100 feet. Just an example.

The R7 can set the alerts for Signal priority (whatever’s strongest) or Ka Priority. Lidar and MRCD/MRCT still trumps Ka, K, or X

The Pro-M
Lidar>MRCD/MRCT >Ka>K>X

There’s more, but there are some of the unique pros and cons between the 2 detectors.

I have both but I face a lot of MRCD so the R7 is relegated to testing and occasional use only for me.
As usual, excellent post and advice.

Between the two (which I own both), at this point in time, I suggest R7 over the Pro M. The 1.50 firmware, combined with tweaking K band filters and sensitivity using advsmced setting, the R7 becomes a manageable dally driver. It’s advantage with the situational awareness display (arrows, multi signal notification, better lockout area alerting, cigar chord mute button, and much more put it ahead. Add in the better sensitivity that begets much better range for alerts (in all conditions on and off angle), plus decent price parity, R7 pulls further ahead. I also like the mount better. Plus I add the M1 dash cam to the sticky R7 sticky cup mount and run both off the same power.

I like the Pro M. It gets used daily by others. Because it is easy, simple, quiet, small, good range. Great travel companion For rental cars.

as long as you do not need complete RDD immunity, and good MRCD/CT performance... change recommendation to the Pro M. R7 falls down in those areas According to people who have to have good performance with these two features.
 
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These 2 may seem comparable but at the time they worlds apart

As others have mentioned about
- size
- display
- arrows
- support
Etc


The pro M is over 2 years old now. It’s has a lot of updates from day 1. And the updates now are really just more user friendly Controls vs drastic change in performance. So it’s pretty much refined as it’s going to get. Not saying there aren’t going to be more updates to boost it some more. But the pro M has had weird “quirks” for 2 years that never got resolved (and they should have gotten resolved)

The r7 is not even 1 year old yet so it’s not as refined. Rest assured they are still working on it hard and more updates will come


Let me be clear here. The pro M and the radenso team has exceeded beyond excellent for me for 2.5 years. And really there is no wrong choice here

But If there was no need mrcd currently and I haven’t heard and rumblings of it.

I would take the R7

However, My end game would be to buy the radenso theia
 

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@Heywood - thanks for the excellent comparison of 2 great detectors, I was thinking of arrows but being close to NYC, the dreaded MRCT cameras (although fixed & occasionally mobile) are becoming an issue. The Pro M being better for this is a real point for me. I use a Redline EX, relying on Defender, but NYC has a few mobile units and I am concerned about the update lag. Defender on the EX has been really good so far, but I get that the Pro M is the best for Multiradar. Also, the small size is really valuable to me. (For the record, I have a R1, R3, a Redline EX, a Whistler CR95 - & a Solo S4 used for the family SUV).
 

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@Heywood - thanks for the excellent comparison of 2 great detectors, I was thinking of arrows but being close to NYC, the dreaded MRCT cameras (although fixed & occasionally mobile) are becoming an issue. The Pro M being better for this is a real point for me. I use a Redline EX, relying on Defender, but NYC has a few mobile units and I am concerned about the update lag. Defender on the EX has been really good so far, but I get that the Pro M is the best for Multiradar. Also, the small size is really valuable to me. (For the record, I have a R1, R3, a Redline EX, a Whistler CR95 - & a Solo S4 used for the family SUV).
How did this work out for you? Have you come across MRCT in nyc?
 

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