Introducing Radenso Theia powered by Rai (Video Links and FAQ on first page)

[blah]

I did not pay enough attention. First look I thought it was laser guns. Second look oh radar now I am interested.

 

[juvat2006]

Can you put a dollar bill in the case to give a visual cue of dimensions? Will this thing require a cooling fan?

 

[fishing66]

Well Escort did claim to analyze the DNA of the signals.

Yes, their "DNA" actually stood for "Does Not Alert"....."With final production software, the Max is the longest range radar detector available ever, for all guns, all bands". It's been six years and I still can't forget that shirtshow.

 

[Heywood]

How many guns have YOU personally run into that are "Out of TUNE? " or out of spec??

Were you responding to me? I was responding to Buz.
Where I am, there are no wildly out of spec guns. Different country and different rules.

 

[tempnexus]

Shame!!! Showing Theia all naked like that!!! I thought no porn was allowed on this site?!!! Sigh, such low standards!!!

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We will try to answer many questions but we are pretty busy in the booth here at SEMA as well!

Release date: Sometime 2020
Price: To be announced in the future

Presentation is superb; the music sucks!!! What is this?! 1920's?! Shit sounds like prohibition speak easy!!!

 

[Gillbertmps]

Is it going to be stealth as well? If so I’m sold.

 

[dougr]

Is it going to be stealth as well? If so I’m sold.

No mention of RDD immunity in the display or literature. Makes me wonder.

 

[Brilliant]

Rai and it sounds like Raytheon a missile defence system.

 

[CobawLT2010]

but doesn't have to see the exact same thing to know what it is.

except the Tx pattern and bandwidth has to be the same... and the real question is will the out of tune gun still look the same?

 

[PY004]

except the Tx pattern and bandwidth has to be the same... and the real question is will the out of tune gun still look the same?

Yes. Frequency has nothing to do with pattern recognition. Out of tune guns do not affect it at all

 

[CobawLT2010]

Yes because it’s seeing the fingerprint of the components in the gun itself is my guess

Simply put.

this shit will have frequency boundaries... it’s not going to scan everything.

 

[mz2slow]

I know this sounds really cool. The marketing looks great. However, I'm a little surprised by the number of "take my money" posts without any indication of actual performance. We need tests, we still need Vortex! Before tests are possible, it would be helpful to get the accuracy questions answered that several here have posted. False negative accuracy of 98% (as with handwriting recognition of digits) probably isn't good enough here, for example.

The one advantage of previous implementations without the use of AI, was that detectors were reliable within quality control tolerances in manufacturing. Now we have a detector that will make "decisions" based on training, and we don't have a good way to know how its decisions will vary with training sets and real-world conditions. We need to know the AI training and performance are robust. I think a lot of the value here will be in Radenso demonstrating a sound AI training process to avoid false negatives.

Not to put a damper on things, but I'm very cautiously optimistic. A major factor in neural network performance is the training regimen. In this case, testing performance seems a little tricky in this case, since it's hard to replicate real-world conditions with noise, distance, reflections, etc. Multiply this by the many possible radar and BSM source types, and I think you'll see my point that training isn't simple. At least, my first assessment is that it isn't simple.

Again, everything we're seeing is forward-thinking and innovative. However, whether or not this is a good real-world radar detector depends on a lot more than the underlying technology, and it remains to be proven.

 

[CobawLT2010]

Yes. Frequency has nothing to do with pattern recognition. Out of tune guns do not affect it at all

How does it hold up to environmental factors? Noise? Etc on the same frequency?

 

[MikePA]

The way some people are stuck in the old frequency paradigm is amazing.

Add to this the posts which raise 'issues' which the poster clearly thinks Radenso has not thought of. Reference my post that suggested a thread where people try and get Jon to say, "Crap, we didn't think of that."

 

[SalmonSurprise]

This all looks and sounds amazing. I just hope it is not cost prohibitive for the average RDF user. Besides, I would be scared to leave a RD that is more than $600 or so in my car, even though I live in a good area.

 

[PY004]

How does it hold up to environmental factors? Noise? Etc on the same frequency?

They used such high quality components that the additional dynamic range allows it to perform really well even with lots of signal interference.

 

[mz2slow]

The way some people are stuck in the old frequency paradigm is amazing.

Undoubtedly the frequency is part of the pattern. This is not a fair criticism.

As for "out of tune" guns, it's a fair question. The performance of the pattern recognition depends, among other things, on what the inputs are. It seems to me that frequency will likely be one input, and it's fair to ask how flexible the pattern recognition will be to "slightly different" inputs, such as those introduced by manufacturing tolerances in radar guns, environmental noise, reflected signals, etc.

 

[CobawLT2010]

The way some people are stuck in the old frequency paradigm is amazing.

Add to this the posts which raise 'issues' which the poster clearly thinks Radenso has not thought of. Reference my post that suggested a thread where people try and get Jon to say, "Crap, we didn't think of that."

It’s RF... everything is frequency... even if YOU don’t think it is...

I can guarantee this unit won’t pickup a stalker at 200 MHz... if it can even tx that low

 

[Vortex]

Do both of the Falcons look identical on the screen? Maybe I should bring another for comparison.

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I asked them and they said that different copies of guns do look sufficiently similar. They train their AI to recognize slight variants of even a single gun... weak and at a distance, strong and close up, if the gun is stationary or moving, etc. All these things make the radar signal “look” different so the AI has to know that even variations on a signature (ie. different copy of the same gun) is still classified as the same gun.

 

[Deadhead1971]

Nothing like being “stuck” and “trapped” in meetings for hours on end all day while peeking at RDF under the table and seeing this go down. Just went through 11 pages. Congrats to Radenso.

I won’t mention any mfgs by name but put a fork in em’, they’re done.