Radar Local LEO hiding in parking lot with Ka 35.5

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Just coming back from the grocery store today and I got this encounter. Marked Explorer can be seen on the right at 0:26, hiding in the gas station parking lot running FF C/O 35.5. I probably would never have seen him there without the alert from the R7. I thought the initial detection range (a little over 1000 feet) was good considering FF, the frequency, and all the obstacles. I was a little disappointed at how quickly the signal dropped around the first curve at the end of the video, but I suppose the rear antenna is designed to be less sensitive. The arrows were also bouncing around a lot during this whole encounter, displaying side long after I'd passed him. Again, I suppose that's to be expected given all the stuff around for the signal to bounce off of. You can let me know what you think.


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hiding in the gas station parking lot
Are you sure he was hiding and running traffic? I see stuff like this sometimes and the cops are in line inside to get a drink or something, and they just didn’t bother turning their radar off (getting gas sometimes too).


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Are you sure he was hiding and running traffic? I see stuff like this sometimes and the cops are in line inside to get a drink or something, and they just didn’t bother turning their radar off (getting gas sometimes too).
It's certainly possible he wasn't actually running traffic. There are a couple reasons I suspected he was, though. If he were just inside getting a drink, he probably wouldn't have left his car idling, and also probably wouldn't have taken the trouble to back into a space, especially on the side of the lot far from the store. I've also seen these police sit in driveways and parking lots before monitoring traffic. So my guess is his position was specifically chosen to do traffic enforcement - catching people coming around the curve ahead at the end of the straightaway in my video, or people who come up from behind, are blocked from seeing him by the foliage, and don't see him off to the side as they pass because he's parked behind a couple of civilian cars.

Whatever the case, though, it's interesting to analyze the detection.
 

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If he were just inside getting a drink, he probably wouldn't have left his car idling
Heh, around here it’s very common for cops to leave their vehicles idling when they pop into a gas station. It’s too hot! But they don’t need to be idling to have the radar running. They’re not usually ignition switched.

So my guess is his position was specifically chosen to do traffic enforcement.
It’s too bad you didn’t have time to hang a right and pull into the parking lot and do a little recon, see if he was in the vehicle watching traffic like a hawk. Every once in a while I get the time to do stuff like that, and it’s always interesting.

Whatever the case, though, it's interesting to analyze the detection.
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Heh, around here it’s very common for cops to leave their vehicles idling when they pop into a gas station. It’s too hot! But they don’t need to be idling to have the radar running. They’re not usually ignition switched.
Was about 68 degrees today, so I doubt the heat would have been a problem. I didn't know radar units aren't ignition switched, though; thanks for informing me of that. I guess next time I encounter something like this I'll try to spot whether the LEO's in his vehicle or not; it would be good to know more about the enforcement patterns in the area.
 

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Nice video, really clear. So what did you get at the store good ?
 

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Thanks for sharing.
 

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If Leo is on private property and does not have written permission from property owner, a ticket MIGHT not stand up in court, depending on local laws. I'm not a lawyer, but stayed at a Holiday Inn once.
 

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If Leo is on private property and does not have written permission from property owner, a ticket MIGHT not stand up in court, depending on local laws. I'm not a lawyer, but stayed at a Holiday Inn once.
This is an interesting point. If I were ever to have the misfortune of getting a ticket in such a manner, I'd certainly keep that possibility in mind.
 

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I had to laugh, I seen the time stamp on the video and I was wondering if this thread was really old and got bumped (never mind the R7 wasn't even maybe an idea yet).

It's not always a bad thing to be aware of the LEO in this situation, he could be drinking a coffee, forgetting radar was running and he sees a high number appear and someones left with a ticket. One thing I've come to appreciate is how drastically different detections can be depending on direction/foliage/landscape. Always learning something new about the tools/toys we have and appreciating the actual physics at play.
 

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It is very common for LEOs to leave their vehicles running, even when they stop for a bite to eat. It could be a K-9 car, or it may be department policy to leave them run so they can jump in and take off right away if any emergency call comes in. That way they don't have to take time to start up. Speculation on my part but you never know. Better to err on the side of caution and assume they are running traffic enforcement if the radar is transmitting until you know otherwise.

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