R3 (on 1.50) vs R7 (on 124.111) K-band Falses

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So I just wanted to share my observations, as unofficial as they may be, between the two detectors now that I own both.

As the title said, I'm comparing the R3 on 1.50 with K @ 50% to the R7 on 124.124.111 on 30%. Both detectors have K-narrow ON, K-block ON, K-filter ON, K-pop OFF.

I completed about 4 hours driving through heavy traffic with the R3 (R7 is now my primary) and I only had ONE k-band false. Can't even say for sure it was BSM, may have been a stationary speed sign off a side road.

Compare this to my R7 where i have numerous per hour rear falses (a lot of which are 24.168), and several front falses.

Bottom line is that it was crystal clear to me how much more quiet the R3 is with the latest 1.50 FW. Note that neither the R3 or R7 went off at all for a Honda/Acura BSM, which is a great improvement as those were the bane of my existence and had me shutting off K-band on the older versions of R3's FW.

Honestly, not sure why the R7 cannot at least match the R3 filtering, I'm aware there's 2 antennas vs 1, but it was a night and day difference. I'm comparing 50% vs 30% in the hopes that they are mostly similar in terms of sensitivity (but who knows how close that really is).
 

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The rear horn of R7 needs toning down, faults non stop for me. I shouldn't have to detune the whole detector just to keep the rear quiet.

My R7 sits in it's case, can't handle all the rear falsing, if they don't fix it soon I think I will sell it.
 

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The rear horn of R7 needs toning down, faults non stop for me. I shouldn't have to detune the whole detector just to keep the rear quiet.

My R7 sits in it's case, can't handle all the rear falsing, if they don't fix it soon I think I will sell it.


Honestly, if I didn't get such a good deal on my R7 (best buy price matched for $475 somehow haha), I would have stayed with my R3 now that this 1.50 firmware is out.

But now my wife gets the quiet R3 in her car which is good, because i can just say "if it beeps, slow down". running on 1.48 or older i would have had to shut off K band for her to take the RD seriously.
 

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I don't understand why you all are so sensitive to false alerts..

I come from a time where detectors would false non stop to X band (early 2000 mid 90s) now a days detectors are super silent by those standards, yes even the R7

If it bothers you that much run the R7 in city mode unless K band is huge in your state. or run quiet mode to 100 mph and just have it beep twice and auto mute.

I agree that they should offer an option to mute rear K band alerts or at least reduce rear sensitivity.
 

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I don't understand why you all are so sensitive to false alerts..

I come from a time where detectors would false non stop to X band (early 2000 mid 90s) now a days detectors are super silent by those standards, yes even the R7

If it bothers you that much run the R7 in city mode unless K band is huge in your state. or run quiet mode to 100 mph and just have it beep twice and auto mute.

I agree that they should offer an option to mute rear K band alerts or at least reduce rear sensitivity.


Everyone should be sensitive because it creates complacency. Constantly hearing a beeping that is not real 99% of the time (in my experience / location with K-band) makes it extremely hard to take it seriously for a real alert.

I can deal with it and have ways to mitigate it like you said with Quiet Ride and reducing sensitivity, but my point is that they can do it much better on the older R3, why not their new flagship R7? I also used a V1 since 2000 and it was almost unusable with X band on. And you are right that today they are super silent in comparison.

I'm sure it will get there eventually, but it really should be better for what they are charging (and already provide on the R3).
 
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I don't understand why you all are so sensitive to false alerts..

I come from a time where detectors would false non stop to X band (early 2000 mid 90s) now a days detectors are super silent by those standards, yes even the R7

If it bothers you that much run the R7 in city mode unless K band is huge in your state. or run quiet mode to 100 mph and just have it beep twice and auto mute.

I agree that they should offer an option to mute rear K band alerts or at least reduce rear sensitivity.


Many don't understand what it means to learn how to read your RD signals to know whether its a threat, what direction it's coming, should I slow down? Today they need to just sit and be mind numb. Today's generation has gotten so use to instant everything on their phone that don't know how to think.

That said, I didn't get the R7 for that reason. I don't need expensive arrows telling me something I already know the moment I get a valid alert, Slow Down. It doesn't matter what direction it is.

Back on topic. I used my R3 with 1.50 on a trip in FL this weekend and it was dead silent except for speed signs here and there. Did get a couple MRCD's as well in Daytona.
 

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To me, there is no such thing as being too sensitive! Just like you can never have too much horsepower! Just as you can use your foot to meter the amount of power you put down, you can throttle the R series detectors down. Advanced mode goes from 100% down to 30%, along with K filter and TFS. If that doesn't shut it up, go to city mode! Then there is K block with 1.50. My R1's are as quiet as church mice on city mode with TFS and K filter without using K block, yet plenty sensitive enough on K band! Given the choice, I'd much rather have too much than not enough! The R7 calms right down on city mode as well.
 

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I run my R7 in city mode, unless I am in the middle of nowhere then adv 30%,.

I find that a couple of beeps every 30 minutes or so is not a bad deal, usually you can tell when it is real because the ramp up is different and false alerts usually only last a couple of seconds, you can also tell who the culprit is just by looking around.Usually a Chrysler van or a Chevy SUV
 

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Many don't understand what it means to learn how to read your RD signals to know whether its a threat, what direction it's coming, should I slow down? Today they need to just sit and be mind numb. Today's generation has gotten so use to instant everything on their phone that don't know how to think.

Part of this has to do with familiarity with the equipment. I can discern with relative ease (especially on routes I frequent) whether or not there is a threat or a false.

However, what really has become an annoyance is the falsing while others are in the vehicle. The R7 is certainly no exception, and the lack of auto lockouts compounds this issue.

Give me a Pro-M with arrows so that I can drive with passengers in the car. The R7 has the greatest potential to be that if Uniden can get a handle on falses.
 

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Part of this has to do with familiarity with the equipment. I can discern with relative ease (especially on routes I frequent) whether or not there is a threat or a false.

However, what really has become an annoyance is the falsing while others are in the vehicle. The R7 is certainly no exception, and the lack of auto lockouts compounds this issue.

Give me a Pro-M with arrows so that I can drive with passengers in the car. The R7 has the greatest potential to be that if Uniden can get a handle on falses.

put the volume all the way down or run Q mode 100 mph when others are in the car.
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Also auto muto does wonders, set auto mute to 3 or 2 , and run it in city mode.
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if you want a quiet detector maybe the 360c is a better choice
 
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I love the R3, and I really like the R7.
That said, if you want to know why the R7 is giving so many rear false alerts, try driving with 2 R3s.
One out the front, one out the rear.
Then you will get comparable falsing.
What we need as agreed to many times is the ability to turn down or turn off the rear R3 / R7 rear antenna.
It's very apparent when using the R7 when going by a door opener that you basically have double the area to lock out. Front and rear.
R3 is all any intelligent driver needs, but I'm into the R7 now and it is just a bit more extreme, but with some drawbacks.
Niether would end up in my glovebox on any drive.
 

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I think Uniden built what they thought everybody wanted: an R3 with arrows.

What they, (and likely we) didn't understand is exactly what that would mean.

The rear horn likely DOES NOT need the same amount of sensitivity as the front to be very effective as the best RD on the market.

When traveling forward, the distance to a threat is rapidly being consumed, especially if they are traveling in opposing lanes toward each other. You need max range to give you maximum reaction time.

In a rear encounter, the Leo might be closing on you, but you're still going in the same direction as the threat so the Leo will close much slower on your position, so range likely needs to be much less to be just as effective.

I think we're seeing the full potential right now of an R3 rear horn, the question is, do we really need it?

Personally I would say no, unless the filtering abilities can be greatly improved, then you can let fly with the full range.
 
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I cant help but laugh at the comments about Uniden products and how the rear antenna needs to be tuned down being to sensitive etc... The Escort 360 has no problems with falsing using their system and picks up from the perfect distance to me. Who cares what goes on in the next county? To me a mile detection is long enough to comfortably slow down to the PSL. Anything further is just an annoyance to me and my co riders. Plus you get to thinking it may be false alerts, BSM, etc. and quit taking your warnings seriously. I just don't get all the hype about 10 mile detection capabilities with that comes that many more false alerts as well. Who wants that? Not me. So give me the Escort 360 and ZR5s and I'm a happy matched brand terror on the roads. (Yes I own an R3-Use only the KA band when I do use it, in wifes car, maybe new Notch filter may help-band aide fix- )
 

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I cant help but laugh at the comments about Uniden products and how the rear antenna needs to be tuned down being to sensitive etc... The Escort 360 has no problems with falsing using their system and picks up from the perfect distance to me. Who cares what goes on in the next county? To me a mile detection is long enough to comfortably slow down to the PSL. Anything further is just an annoyance to me and my co riders. Plus you get to thinking it may be false alerts, BSM, etc. and quit taking your warnings seriously. I just don't get all the hype about 10 mile detection capabilities with that comes that many more false alerts as well. Who wants that? Not me. So give me the Escort 360 and ZR5s and I'm a happy matched brand terror on the roads. (Yes I own an R3-Use only the KA band when I do use it, in wifes car, maybe new Notch filter may help-band aide fix- )
That's because you don't understand the 360 is built on the M4 platform. It's blind as a bat to off axis detections. Half its filtering is due to limited hardware from the get go.
 

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LOL Mine is quieter and No tickets here either.
 

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I cant help but laugh at the comments about Uniden products and how the rear antenna needs to be tuned down being to sensitive etc... The Escort 360 has no problems with falsing using their system and picks up from the perfect distance to me. Who cares what goes on in the next county? To me a mile detection is long enough to comfortably slow down to the PSL. Anything further is just an annoyance to me and my co riders. Plus you get to thinking it may be false alerts, BSM, etc. and quit taking your warnings seriously. I just don't get all the hype about 10 mile detection capabilities with that comes that many more false alerts as well. Who wants that? Not me. So give me the Escort 360 and ZR5s and I'm a happy matched brand terror on the roads. (Yes I own an R3-Use only the KA band when I do use it, in wifes car, maybe new Notch filter may help-band aide fix- )
It usually comes down to user not understanding settings and/or unrealistic expectations of perfect filtering.
Basically, we complain, learn some stuff, adjust and carry on happy.
I agree the Unidens are a bit steeper of an adjustment curve to setup for user preferences, but once you do you have a really quiet unit that at 30-50% K band beats all the completion.
Ka band leaders too.
Too bad the competition can't dial up 200% settings to get in the game when needed.
 

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It usually comes down to user not understanding settings and/or unrealistic expectations of perfect filtering.
Basically, we complain, learn some stuff, adjust and carry on happy.
I agree the Unidens are a bit steeper of an adjustment curve to setup for user preferences, but once you do you have a really quiet unit that at 30-50% K band beats all the completion.
Ka band leaders too.
Too bad the competition can't dial up 200% settings to get in the game when needed.
that's my point-I don't need 200%-I'm a better driver than that-
 

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Without Any Personal attacks meant, I feel like My drivers needs may meet up to others as well. Nothing personal meant-
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Oh BTW If Im not mistaken the 360C is on the M6 platform, as its been commented on several occasions, just quoting others here.
 
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