D.I.Y ALP Cables, connectors, fixes

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Yo Squirrelmaster!
Can I have your permission (if it was you) to add your thread with the dissected controller into the controller section here in first post for all to have easy access?
Think it was you who shot pic of an open controller. Correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers.
Gopher it.

I may have one still gutted on my desk. Ill see if i can snap some more pics for you.

I'll also look for the full reverse engineering i did on the control set as that has more info.

Heres the hifi CS
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And gps
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Added to first post. Thanks for this.
Thread not far off finished, or should say probably past the halfway mark by now.
Few minor missing bits in between, but slowly but surely getting there.
 

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Added to first post. Thanks for this.
Thread not far off finished, or should say probably past the halfway mark by now.
Few minor missing bits in between, but slowly but surely getting there.
I know it's already been said, but thank you for compiling the info. :thanks:
 

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I know it's already been said, but thank you for compiling the info. :thanks:
Man, I appreciate it. I just found a way to contribute to rdf, and although it's an effort compiled from multiple users here, I'm happy to organise it in one place.
Threads on various fixes were tough to search, especially with different titles, multiple pages and posts and photos. Got difficult hunting around and lots of scattered pieces all over the place. Dumping it in one spot made it easier for reference and hope users come back to it long term whenever it's needed. I hope to eventually slim it down. Fair bit of small talk amongst it all and some missing things on cable gauge ect, small stuff, but over time it should compile in full hopefully. Glad it's useful and I always shout out contributers and give credit where it's due for their efforts.
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If this is the only difference between a simple controller and a hi-fi controller, can you talk about soldering a low-power speaker and installing an audio package?
 

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If this is the only difference between a simple controller and a hi-fi controller, can you talk about soldering a low-power speaker and installing an audio package?
Well... Basically all you'd probably be looking for is the +&- off the headphone jack for the audio. I've not seen a Hifi controller in the flesh or the speaker, but sure someone has on here. I'd presume the speaker is powered and tapped into the fusebox somewhere, and doubt it's powered off the controller but I could be wrong. Having not seen one myself I can't really comment, but hang out here for a bit and it will turn up no doubt.
 
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@Saussie
The original ALP weatherproofed connector is an Amphenol LTW. For example, the Connector from the ALP-Sensor is labeled with "ALTW".
A few days before, a bought 2 connectors, female and male with this Amphenol part numbers:
AU-06BFFA-LL7001
AU-06BMMA-LL7001

Both connected perfect to the original ALP Counterparts.
I want to install a sensor in the luggage compartment door, and there is almost no place to get one of the ALP Connectors through the bellows. But the cable alone should go through, afterwards i can solder the amphenol connector to the cable. I bought a 6-pin LiYY-Cable to build my own Extension cable.
Can you attach the link to cable you have used
 

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Can you attach the link to cable you have used
Sure,
6 colours available here, but different to alp wire colours, so you'll have to substitute. Various awg available. Took me ages to locate this based on cost effectiveness and without buying massive rolls. Shop around though in your area by all means. 10 metres x 6 colours should be ample for 2-3 cables. Be aware, this won't slide into a modular rj connector as the insulation is too thick. You'll have to use something else and solder this onto it. The rj is inside the car, so that's no heat issue. Use this in the engine bay area.
If you're in USA, this method might not be worth your while. Outside USA, if willing to bother making it, use this and you'll double to triple the heat rating for your effort, if you use fibreglass sheathing with it.
Personally, USA people should just buy an original cable. Unless you're experiencing heat issues or difficulty obtaining one, only then try this.
Support your local vendor, unless they can't support you or out of stock or something.
 
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The Hifi control set doesn't have an external power supply.

Same connections as the regular control set, just the addition of the 3.5mm headphone jack and I presume an amplifier on the PCB.
 

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Sure,
6 colours available here, but different to alp wire colours, so you'll have to substitute. Various gauges available. Took me ages to locate this based on cost effectiveness and without buying massive rolls. Shop around though in your area by all means. 10 metres x 6 colours should be ample for 2-3 cables.
The Hifi control set doesn't have an external power supply.

Same connections as the regular control set, just the addition of the 3.5mm headphone jack and I presume an amplifier on the PCB.

Yeah, I wondered where the so called amp was. Unsure if it was in the actual speaker or the controller. Which is why I wondered if the speaker was hard-wired to the fusebox, or the controller handles the lot.
Cheers for confirmation. Much appreciated.
 
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I think this is all finished in the first post (finally!).
If I've missed anything, let me know. Looks to me like it needs tidying up and a few minor things added. Looking like a complete cable fix compile, except for the female connector on NR DSP. If anyone knows what this connector is, I'll add it to the fix, as I suggested the amphenol 4 pin male and female to match the other cables.
Only other thing... The older netradar... Is that the same connector type as dsp? Probably the only thing missing as well.
Big huge mega thanks to everyone that chipped in their 2cents to help make this happen for the RDF community!
I sincerely appreciate all effort (minor and major), and hope past and future users will find it helpful at some stage.
:bravo::thanks::dance::userbar34:
 

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I'll post a pic of the NRO antenna plug tomorrow. It uses a DIN style connector - the same as the older gen ALP sensors (although 4 pins VS 6)
 

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LED CABLE
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Shout out to Eloi for doing the RJ end fix already! Slotted his fine photography as the first picture in this section.
Led cable crimping as follows...
RJ10 (4P4C) connector.
Second pic attached is where the wire colours lead to on the Led end. Cannot see a resistor on any of the lines. No bulges behind the individual heat shrink to make it obvious. Even by feel, each leg of the LED is as even as the next.
You could probably d.i.y this cable but selecting a suitable RGB LED, may be tricky if attempting to create your own. Maybe someone can suggest something for this, as I'm not game enough to call it.
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In order from left to right (Red, Yellow, Blue, Green).
Zoom in on this picture to see which side of the Led is shown. Yes... it matters!


So using this, and confirming it with another post of the wiring by BRD, I set out to fix my LED with parts I had on hand (common cathode LED). Sadly I quickly noticed that green and blue were crossed as the colors were wrong and out of sync with the control pad. After swapping them only on the LED side, everything worked as expected.

After some research, I found diagrams like the one below which supported what I already knew from my testing.

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The plug end that plugs into the 'STiR/V1' port on the RG module (original) from the STiR+ antenna;
STiRplus to RG.jpg


It was buried under my dash and hard to get a clear close-up pic ;

From left to right, looking at the bottom of the RJ where the pins are - blue, green, red, orange (yellow?).
 

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Been a while folks! How you all doing!?
MANY thanks for the extra contributions! Just checking in for something and caught the posts. Legendary stuff!!!
Hope you're all going sweet as out there during these strange times!

Guess while I'm here, I'll drop an ask worth adding to this thread.

ALP connect app.

Where is the lone official .APK for download? (Android or IOS file)

Was thinking... (Look out!)

Some people may not want to download it through Google play store or Apple App store. Various reasons may apply as to why (I'll let you figure this out and decide).

Are direct download links available at ALP USA?
Have seen alternate links on Aptoide. Unsure if these are official releases.
Can someone confirm sources/alternative official sources?

Thanks champs! Keep up the good work. Apologies for my absence. Have been busy. Keep the chin up, smiling and doing your thing!
 
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I may have missed it in this post but I have a TX with the outer coating torn inside wires seem OK. What is the replacement for that if I don't want to redo the jack?? Thanks!
 

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