TXCTG - Testing the new Escort iX, Part 2 (Ka 33.8 and K-band) 08-21-2016

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INTRO

I met up with @gbriggs82 here in Plano continue testing of his new iX radar detector from Escort. Unfortunately, today was a little bit of a PITA as we had to find a new place for the radar source, as some test runs made it appear that all the detectors would bunch up at 900 meters or less on 33.8. So we spent an hour and a half checking out alternatives before we settled on a spot that originally was our second choice, but some woman had parked there right before we tried to move there. Pictures are below.


THE DETECTORS

iX (gbriggs82, segmented (1/3/4), RDR off, TSR off)
DRF7 (Vortex, FW 1.00, K Filter on, TSF Off, Ka Filter Off)
LRD950 (Brainstorm69, FW1.23, K Filter On)
Radenso XP (Brainstorm69, FW 1.0, segmented, BSM Filter on, TSF off)
Redline (Brainstorm69, BS/RDR 2/5/8)
RX65 M4 (Brainstorm69, USA mode on, TSR on)
We decided to blow off testing the Cobra RAD350 today, as we spent too much time finding a new spot.


COURSE

As mentioned above, we had to move the radar source today. Here are pictures showing where the source was. It was about moved about 2000 feet further up the course from where it was yesterday.

Course start move.jpg


33.8 and K radar new source.jpg


33.8 and K radar original source.jpg


33.8 and K radar gun view 8-21-2016.jpg


33.8 and K radar source towards start.jpg



RESULTS

TXCTG - 33.8 Results Chart Plano TX Ave K Course 2016-08-21.jpg


TXCTG - 33.8 Results Graph Plano TX Ave K Course 2016-08-21.jpg


TXCTG - K-band Results Chart Plano TX Ave K Course 2016-08-21.jpg


TXCTG - K-band Results Graph Plano TX Ave K Course 2016-08-21.jpg



CONCLUSIONS

Ka 33.8 Results.


  • Redline: Still managed to take first place, although not the longest detection in the world at a bit over 1.1 miles. Still 33% farther than second place.


  • Radenso XP: The XP surprised me with a considerably better showing on 33.8 than the Unidens. It took second place.


  • iX: The iX took third place with a pretty solid showing. At ¾ of a mile, it was starting to seem a bit short, but stil considerably better than the next place finishers.


  • Unidens: Both the LRD950 and DFR7 struggled on 33.8 on this course. With detections of about a 1/3 of a mile, it was pretty much line of sight and pretty scary. But they were in the low point of the course for almost a half a mile before that.


  • RX65 M4: Was even worse than the Unidens, but not by much.

K-band Results.


  • Unfortunately, it’s hardly worth discussing the K-band results other than the XP’s initial run. The XP got a detection on its first run that absolutely blew away the competition, at nearly a mile. It beat the competition by so far that we decided at the end of K testing to give it another run. It wasn’t able to repeat its initial performance, and came right back to the pack. Clearly, k-band was course limited in this case.


FINAL THOUGHTS

Today was frustrating, as we had to spend 1.5 hours trying to figure out where to move the radar car to. Unfortunately, sometimes things just turn out that way. Then the K-band testing showed no separation at all, other than the freak 1 mile detection of the XP. The XP unit I have does seem pretty good on K-band, but not that good (as compared to the other detectors). And it proved that it couldn’t do it twice in a row.

I do want to thank @gbriggs82 for his patience with how things went to begin with. He was totally cool about it, even though it took 1.5 hours away from potential testing time. We do plan on doing some more testing in the future. Perhaps we will meet @Jag42 the next time he and I do some testing in Waco. I’d like to test the iX on our old standby, the Pioneer Pkwy course. Or maybe the Oglesby Course.

I will end with my usual admonishment: This is just one test, and was only one run per detector (with a one exception). You need to look at various tests, by various people, at various times, on various courses to try to get to a complete picture of a detector. So make sure to do your research, look at as many tests as you can, and find out as much information as you can.
 
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Thanks for your time and efforts
 

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Dang, 33.8 is the "loudest" of Ka bands and the IX got smoked by the Redline. Oh well, M3 vs. M4, the M3 is going to come out on top.
 

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Dang, 33.8 is the "loudest" of Ka bands and the IX got smoked by the Redline. Oh well, M3 vs. M4, the M3 is going to come out on top.
I think you have to take the course into consideration when looking at these results. There were still some trees in front of the radar gun, so it wasn't a completely clear line of sight down the course. I'll have to go snap a picture looking down the course from the radar car's POV. But, yeah, I think the M3 is still going to beat whatever horn they are calling what's in the iX (M4.5?).
 
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Thanks for testing guys!! Great job!!! On Ka band it appears that the LRD/DFR series continues to be a one-trick pony or one hit wonder, that one hit being 34.7 Stalker. Sorry, I need more than just one hit Sinead OConnor! Yes, the LRD/DFR has great K band false filtering, BUT in my land of Ka, I need something good on ALL three. I can live with mediocre on K , BUT even then, the Redline is NOT mediocre on K band.
 

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Added this pic of the radar car spot for 33.8 and K band to my original post.

33.8 and K radar gun view 8-21-2016.jpg
 

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Nice work again fellas ! The XP came to play ! The XP is definitely not the same performance as the 950/DFR7.

Ka 34.7 - DFR7 1.919, Radenso XP 1.559
Ka 35.5 - DFR7 0.520, Radenso XP 0.463
Ka 33.8 - DFR7 0.330, Radenso XP 0.849
K band - DFR7 0.339, Radenso XP 0.345 on second run (* .998 on the first)

Other than Ka 33.8, it doesn't look like a slam dunk one way or the other for either detector....especially considering that there was only one run with the Uniden on K band, and two for the Radenso (with the second one not proving to be all that different for the XP from the DFR7).

Thanks for testing guys!! Great job!!! On Ka band it appears that the LRD/DFR series continues to be a one-trick pony or one hit wonder, that one hit being 34.7 Stalker. Sorry, I need more than just one hit Sinead OConnor! Yes, the LRD/DFR has great K band false filtering, BUT in my land of Ka, I need something good on ALL three. I can live with mediocre on K , BUT even then, the Redline is NOT mediocre on K band.

It was on this particular test. :D

But seriously, I hear what you're saying. I don't think anyone can question the range of the Redline on K and Ka...but in comparison to the other detectors (the XP, iX, and RX65) in this test...the Unidens actually did fairly well, and was comparable in terms of performance.

Looking forward to more testing, [MENTION=9768]Brainstorm69[/MENTION] :patriot:
 

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Awesome work guys! I can sure relate as I have experienced the course set up headaches. May seem like a loss of time, but experience gained is how I look at it. Thank you so much guys for your hard work.

Next time out when you test on k band, could you please test the ix in Auto LoK mode and give us your opinion on how much performance loss running that mode is compared to Highway mode?
 

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Awesome work guys! I can sure relate as I have experienced the course set up headaches. May seem like a loss of time, but experience gained is how I look at it. Thank you so much guys for your hard work.

Next time out when you test on k band, could you please test the ix in Auto LoK mode and give us your opinion on how much performance loss running that mode is compared to Highway mode?

Yeah, that's certainly something worth checking on. Will try to do so.
 

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As far as trees in the way of the test course, ya know what? That's exactly the way I've seen Smokey operate sometimes.

That makes this a great, real-world test!

Thanks for your diligence!
 
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