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that'd be the loophole. theres a stalker 34.6 gun a town over i see about twice a month. 34.690 falls into seg 4 redline doesnt pick it up - Magnum does

Yup..............and I get questioned about why I run seg 4

Love NYS............land of stalkers
 

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I'm on it. 2/4/5/6/8. Appreciate the input, thanks. Stalker galore here in NYS.
 

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Cross posting assuming STi-R has the same segments:

These are the setting's I've been using since at least 2009 on my STi-R(not PLUS):

I leave KA2(33.704-33.896)/KA3 (33.886 - 34.198) on for 33.8 KA, KA5(34.592 - 34.808) and KA6(34.806 - 35.166) on for 34.7 KA as there may be frequency drift so I leave KA6 on, and KA8(35.378 - 35.618) and KA9(35.595 - 35.835) for 35.5 KA. So in simple terms:

KA2, KA3, KA5, KA6, KA8, and KA9 should be left on, all others off.

To improve performance even more, turn RDR off.
Run in highway mode for maximum sensitivity.
 

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I have 34.7 and 35.5 here. So I think I am going to go with 4-5-6-7-8-9 and keep track of the freq for a few months. With X off. TSR, SWS and RDR all off of course
 

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Here's a question.

If someone picks up a legitimate detection in band 6 does this mean the gun is sufficiently out of tune that would invalidate the ticket, assuming of course that you could "prove" that to the court?

VG
Any Radar Detector has NO STANDING in ANY Court.
You may actually hear laughter coming from the prosecution table; now that you have compromised your innocence by admitting to the Judge you use a detector, in a failed effort to out geek the process

In order to gain "standing", a detector would have to go thru a certification process similar to what a radar unit is subjected to
 

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Any Radar Detector has NO STANDING in ANY Court.
You may actually hear laughter coming from the prosecution table; now that you have compromised your innocence by admitting to the Judge you use a detector, in a failed effort to out geek the process

In order to gain "standing", a detector would have to go thru a certification process similar to what a radar unit is subjected to

Not necessarily true that they would have no standing, but just like with Lidar when it came out, you'd probably have to fly someone out from Escort to verify accuracy of the unit and it's design and that could probably be disqualified as witness has a financial interest in their product so you'd need some independent 3rd party as an expert witness on the scientific basis on how your device works.. it would truly be an uphill battle, but I firmly believe that it is one that courts could take judicial notice of if you really wanted to go after it.. of course just like radar/lidar guns you would need to prove your detector was working accurately that day with some show of test before/after the incident. :)
 

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Link doesn't work. Can you briefly describe what you attached? I appreciate the effort.
 

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^^^ it is a pic of one of con40's stalker encounters with his magnum. Note the frequency...
 

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Here's a question.

If someone picks up a legitimate detection in band 6 does this mean the gun is sufficiently out of tune that would invalidate the ticket, assuming of course that you could "prove" that to the court?

VG


Heres another thought: the spec meter was off. This has been observed for years on Belscort products.
 

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Can't see attachment, not sure why. I'll assume it fell in band 4 given the context of the discussion.
 

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Not necessarily true that they would have no standing, but just like with Lidar when it came out, you'd probably have to fly someone out from Escort to verify accuracy of the unit and it's design and that could probably be disqualified as witness has a financial interest in their product so you'd need some independent 3rd party as an expert witness on the scientific basis on how your device works.. it would truly be an uphill battle, but I firmly believe that it is one that courts could take judicial notice of if you really wanted to go after it.. of course just like radar/lidar guns you would need to prove your detector was working accurately that day with some show of test before/after the incident. :)


Lucky, what you're not looking at is the fact that radar units do drift and legally have to be calibrated, depending on the state at least annually and some require 6 months. So, if the LEO issues a ticket and your Spec display told you it was way out tune, then you've got a viable defense and should ALWAYS ask for the Calibration cert. because if budgetary issues, many depts are not routinely testing their lidar and radar units as they should.

Think about the yes and abuse these units take daily. Being dropped or better yet " thrown" on the floor or seat of a car. Dropped in use. Improper charging, insufficient battery power. The new units all self calibrate but that is not sufficient for a certificate opt calibration.
 

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I think legally speaking, it's unlikely that your detector's spec meter is admissible as an accurate measurement of the transmit frequency of police radar. With that said, if you encounter out of tune frequencies, it does give you much more motivation to pursue the calibration history of the radar gun.
 

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Lucky, what you're not looking at is the fact that radar units do drift and legally have to be calibrated, depending on the state at least annually and some require 6 months. So, if the LEO issues a ticket and your Spec display told you it was way out tune, then you've got a viable defense and should ALWAYS ask for the Calibration cert. because if budgetary issues, many depts are not routinely testing their lidar and radar units as they should.

Think about the yes and abuse these units take daily. Being dropped or better yet " thrown" on the floor or seat of a car. Dropped in use. Improper charging, insufficient battery power. The new units all self calibrate but that is not sufficient for a certificate opt calibration.

The same goes for your radar detector.. Electronic components fail. Accuracy of the measuring device is always in question, it's why we ask for calibration and testing info at trial for the radar/lidar gun, which measures speed/distance, to ensure the unit was working that particular day. Same goes for frequency counter on the spec display of your detector, which measures the frequency of the microwave source.

---------- Post added at 10:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:57 AM ----------

I think legally speaking, it's unlikely that your detector's spec meter is admissible as an accurate measurement of the transmit frequency of police radar. With that said, if you encounter out of tune frequencies, it does give you much more motivation to pursue the calibration history of the radar gun.

Bingo.
 

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you'd need some independent 3rd party as an expert witness on the scientific basis on how your device works.. it would truly be an uphill battle, but I firmly believe that it is one that courts could take judicial notice of if you really wanted to go after it

Lucky225, with respect, even if you somehow found some expert to certify that your detector was accurately displaying a certain frequency, do you think a Judge is really going to give that any weight to that in the face of a LEO's verbal testimony and accompanying certificate of calibration? I believe that anyone with a bit of court experience will tell you how remote the chances are of that happening. It's your testimony against the LEOs, your certificate against the LEO's. Plus your case would be significantly weakened by admitting that you even use a radar detector, a device specifically designed to be used to defeat LEO radar, and that's the way the Judge will likely look at it. And as far as establishing judicial notice, I honestly think there's no chance. The only realistic chance of winning is calling for the LEO's calibration certificate, which probably doesn't exist if it's that far out of tune. And in that case, you won't have to prove a thing about your detector's accuracy. You'd quickly do cross examination, establish there's no certificate, and argue for dismissal based on that.

---------- Post added at 12:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:14 PM ----------

Nevermind, I see you've said "Bingo" to jdong's post.
 

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Regardless of whether your detector says the frequency is off or not, you should still be requesting the calibration certificates if you ever get a ticket.
 

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Regardless of whether your detector says the frequency is off or not, you should still be requesting the calibration certificates if you ever get a ticket.

Request current certification of the the antenna(s), if dash-mounted unit, and tuning forks as well............all have serial numbers and certification dates
 

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Request current certification of the the antenna(s), if dash-mounted unit, and tuning forks as well............all have serial numbers and certification dates

X2 RJK and Celt, ALWAYS!!!!
 

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lets try that one so everyone can see... 34.592,
ive brought this up in many threads because its important... segmenting is a bit dangerous.
thats why i run 2 RD's
34.592 is the first that will beep in seg 5
34.591 and lower which i get sometimes with that car.. Redline is silent. its filtering. its doing what its told.
 

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So, in Stalker country is 4/5/6 your suggested segmenting? Sounds like it.
 

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