Escort Max 360 and M2 vs MaxCam 360

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I don't have wifi in my car and by going with the Max 360 and M2 I save $150. Its seems once the bugs are corrected in the Maxcam 360 it might be a better choice as it has improved radar and the video quality is a little better. However I generally do not speed. I like a radar just in case I am not paying attention to my speed when driving or if your in a slow down in construction area on the highway and everyone is going faster than the 45 but for some reason you get pulled over. I don't need to be warned 2 miles away. I welcome the pros and cons for going with either one that you see.

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IVT filtering I think is the biggest difference between the Max360 and the MaxCam platform apart from radar performance. That is something you can't really fix with the original Max platform.
 

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I ran the M2 and MaxCam today and surprisingly it wasn’t a massive difference in video quality going to 1440p when looking at license plates. That said, the 1080p has a tighter field of view and is more “zoomed in” which sort of makes up for the lower resolution.

Assuming Escort gets all the bugs ironed out, I like the idea of the MaxCam for the better performance and BSM filtering, plus having the dashcam on the left side since I like running my RD on the top left of the RVM.

On a kinda sorta related note, the M2 is a little weird on the MaxCam because of the rear laser sensor sticking up and getting in the way of the M2’s arm. :)
 

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Does the antenna create an issue with the M2 hooking up with the Max360?

I was thinking of first getting the Max 360 and then the following month the M2 just so I would not have to have such a big bill all on one shot.

Does the Max 360 use the Escort live and the M2 use the Defender app?
 

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IVT filtering I think is the biggest difference between the Max360 and the MaxCam platform apart from radar performance. That is something you can't really fix with the original Max platform.
The design of the Max 360 should be able to be at least as good or better than the Max cam. The problem is Escort either doesn't have the talent to refine the FPGA or they don't see a benefit for them to do so.

It really is sad.
 

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I would still recommend reconsidering. The Max360 is such an aging detector that I would argue it's more overpriced for what you get compared to the MaxCam or Redline 360c. Escort's not really improving that platform anymore, and it's one thing if you already had a Max360 and are considering buying a M2 for it. Otherwise I think before long you'll end up wanting a Redline 360c + a M2 and end up spending more money in total.

It's a shame the MaxCam360c is not really polished right now or it would be an obvious choice. But in 2021, I personally think buying another M5 based detector is a mistake. Rewind 5 years and I would've been a lot more positive about it.
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The design of the Max 360 should be able to be at least as good or better than the Max cam. The problem is Escort either doesn't have the talent to refine the FPGA or they don't see a benefit for them to do so.

It really is sad.
Who knows what was wrong with the platform, but they stopped improving the Max360 M4+FPGA platform for many years and the MaxCi's similar-but-beefier platform seems to be defunct too. Seems like if you want any hope of further improvements from Escort, it has to be a Blackfin+SDR detector. But it already starts so much better compared to the Max platform in terms of BSM rejection, even if they stop improving the RL360c platform I'd still rather have it over where the Max plateaued :(
 
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Thanks for the replies so far. Since the IXC Escort is newer than the Max 360 would that be a better option as it may not be as outdated? Does it have the same M4+FPGA format?
 

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I would still recommend reconsidering. The Max360 is such an aging detector that I would argue it's more overpriced for what you get compared to the MaxCam or Redline 360c. Escort's not really improving that platform anymore, and it's one thing if you already had a Max360 and are considering buying a M2 for it. Otherwise I think before long you'll end up wanting a Redline 360c + a M2 and end up spending more money in total.

It's a shame the MaxCam360c is not really polished right now or it would be an obvious choice. But in 2021, I personally think buying another M5 based detector is a mistake. Rewind 5 years and I would've been a lot more positive about it.
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Who knows what was wrong with the platform, but they stopped improving the Max360 M4+FPGA platform for many years and the MaxCi's similar-but-beefier platform seems to be defunct too. Seems like if you want any hope of further improvements from Escort, it has to be a Blackfin+SDR detector. But it already starts so much better compared to the Max platform in terms of BSM rejection, even if they stop improving the RL360c platform I'd still rather have it over where the Max plateaued :(
You mean M6 platform? But yes, it's terrible. And the Fat Max has its share of issues right now as well. My main issue with it is the 850 dollar price tag. It should be damned polished for that kind of coin.
 

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You mean M6 platform? But yes, it's terrible. And the Fat Max has its share of issues right now as well. My main issue with it is the 850 dollar price tag. It should be damned polished for that kind of coin.
M5/M6, other than the directional antennae they both seem to behave and perform similarly. I’m tired of Escort renumbering their horns without much to show for it.
I agree for that price and for a flagship product I expect more polish but sadly we both know that’s not how Escort operates
 

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I would still recommend reconsidering. The Max360 is such an aging detector that I would argue it's more overpriced for what you get compared to the MaxCam or Redline 360c. Escort's not really improving that platform anymore, and it's one thing if you already had a Max360 and are considering buying a M2 for it. Otherwise I think before long you'll end up wanting a Redline 360c + a M2 and end up spending more money in total.

It's a shame the MaxCam360c is not really polished right now or it would be an obvious choice. But in 2021, I personally think buying another M5 based detector is a mistake. Rewind 5 years and I would've been a lot more positive about it.
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Who knows what was wrong with the platform, but they stopped improving the Max360 M4+FPGA platform for many years and the MaxCi's similar-but-beefier platform seems to be defunct too. Seems like if you want any hope of further improvements from Escort, it has to be a Blackfin+SDR detector. But it already starts so much better compared to the Max platform in terms of BSM rejection, even if they stop improving the RL360c platform I'd still rather have it over where the Max plateaued :(
It looks like the Max 360 is Platform 6 which I would think is better than 4?
 

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It looks like the Max 360 is Platform 6 which I would think is better than 4?
“M6” was simply M5 with two horns for arrows, no filtering or performance difference. It’s better than the original M4 in a lot of ways but the modern “M4+++” as they call it is a fairly evolved platform too. The MaxCi is a M7 and the MaxCam and RL360 are their newest platform and a totally different backend strategy
 

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M5/M6, other than the directional antennae they both seem to behave and perform similarly. I’m tired of Escort renumbering their horns without much to show for it.
I agree for that price and for a flagship product I expect more polish but sadly we both know that’s not how Escort operates
Yet we reward them.
 

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Like what @jdong said the Max360 is an aging/old platform and I haven’t seen any updates for mine in awhile, I would bet to say Escort is completely done supporting it. If you could find one REAL cheap $350 or less then I would say go for it, otherwise I would say steer clear of it. I will add I bought the Max360 when it first came out and used it for a few years, I do speed probably up to 15 over and I never had any issues with it not giving me sufficient notice, my daughter has been using it for probably 2 or 3 years and loves it, as of now I run a RL360C and love it.
 
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Does anyone know if the IXC detector which is 5 years newer to the Max 360 has a newer platform? Have they stopped updates on that one pretty as well? I like the design of the IXC better. Is the filtering improved over the Max 360? Is the filtering a hardware improvement or just software update?
 

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Does anyone know if the IXC detector which is 5 years newer to the Max 360 has a newer platform? Have they stopped updates on that one pretty as well? I like the design of the IXC better. Is the filtering improved over the Max 360? Is the filtering a hardware improvement or just software update?
It is a newer platform but Escort also seems to have stopped updating it, in favor of the Max3? https://www.rdforum.org/threads/110169/
 

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Yeah thanks for that. I saw that thread after posting here.Call me crazy but I have an attraction to Escort radar detectors. I know they are far from perfect and thanks to the forums I am learning about the older units to stay away from. As I want to get a M2 camera I am looking now at the Escort Max 3 as I don't want to dump over 800 for a radar and camera in one shot especially since it needs software updates to have it work smoother
 

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I personally don't view Escort with as much disdain as some here, so don't call yourself crazy for liking Escort detectors. Like it or not, they have figured out a thing or two about the winning formula for mass-market detectors, regardless of whether or not veteran enthusiasts are as thrilled about them. I just personally don't find Escort's midgrade / low-end offerings very compelling or good value, though I do like some of their more premium products.
 

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I personally don't view Escort with as much disdain as some here, so don't call yourself crazy for liking Escort detectors. Like it or not, they have figured out a thing or two about the winning formula for mass-market detectors, regardless of whether or not veteran enthusiasts are as thrilled about them. I just personally don't find Escort's midgrade / low-end offerings very compelling or good value, though I do like some of their more premium products.
Which premium product do you actually have confidence that they won't just abandon? I got screwed on the Max Ci 360 which still hasn't received an update to fix my BSM falsing issue. And all I asked was for, at minimum, was the ability to disable the rear sensor (and give up my arrows) on K band. That shouldn't be too hard to do, but they've sat on the request for nearly 2 years with no updates.
 

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Which premium product do you actually have confidence that they won't just abandon? I got screwed on the Max Ci 360 which still hasn't received an update to fix my BSM falsing issue. And all I asked was for, at minimum, was the ability to disable the rear sensor (and give up my arrows) on K band. That shouldn't be too hard to do, but they've sat on the request for nearly 2 years with no updates.
To be fair all have abandoned their flagship product in the past. Escort just likes to do it much sooner and tries to lure those with less than perfect memory with shiny new objects.

They seem to be doing well with that. Look at those who have dropped 9 Benjamins on the latest shiny object.
 

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Which premium product do you actually have confidence that they won't just abandon? I got screwed on the Max Ci 360 which still hasn't received an update to fix my BSM falsing issue. And all I asked was for, at minimum, was the ability to disable the rear sensor (and give up my arrows) on K band. That shouldn't be too hard to do, but they've sat on the request for nearly 2 years with no updates.
They all eventually get abandoned and they do very few one off fixes. Not sure I’ve seen another vendor do better at that?
 

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