Help with decision for good, but simple, radar detector for wife!

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Quick background. I have owned the 1st Gen V1 for about 15 years now after buying my first performance car (modded 335). I know own a M4 and am still using the same detector, although I have upgraded it a couple of times. Obviously I have been very happy with it and have to say it has saved me some money. Fast forward to this week and my wife picked up a speeding ticket, which was her 2nd in about 5 years. She doesn't want to fool with radar detectors, not really into tech, and only runs waze when needing directions. I want her to change some of her habits and use the "tools of the trade" so to speak. However, in order to do that I realize I need to get her a detector that has low driver input and easy to understand. We are also about to purchase a third vehicle and want to have at least two detectors, with atleast one that can be easily transferable between two vehicles (those magnet mounts sound good for that). At first, I thought it was a no brainer when I realized Valentine had a 2nd generation and have already printed the form to do the upgrade! My thought was to get the new version and have it installed in a way that is easy to move between vehicles. But after doing more research, I realized the V1G2 is not the best choice for my wife as she is not going to fool with connecting a radar detector to her phone (although I would and may still get it for M4). So back to the drawing board.

After a ton of research, I have narrowed my selection down to the Uniden R7 and Redline 360 since both seem to be setup and forget, don't require a phone for normal usage (I would be okay doing initially setup/learning), have great range, good KA band (live in NC where KA reigns supreme), upgradable, and both have direction arrows (which I can no longer go without); all of these should be agreeable to the WF.... Although I really don't want to pay $750 for a RD, knowing how long I have kept my V1 and the fact we do really need 2 RDs, it seems the cost isn't as big an issue as long it is justifiable with additional features/performance.

I am hoping actual user's of these detectors can give me some feedback on what works well for folks that just want to jump in and drive, but also is accurate, with little false alarms that overwhelm the driver. My wife never bothered to learn all the nuances of my V1, probably because it had so many false alarms, which of course gets worse each year since its in need of upgrading. To be fair, I think I am still going to upgrade to the V1G2 since I use android for my phone and use Waze religiously. Since the G2 apps mesh so well with those two, I assume I am a good fit for the G2.... ;) However, the car for planned for the new R7/360 is also our family travel and DD car so I want to make sure I like it too... ;)
 

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Well, some folks around here would say you don't need an app for the G2...........It would certainly rule on Ka which NC trooper use with I/O. You could pair it to your wife's phone for the features she wants and let it connect and do its thing as long as she has a phone with her. You don't even have to take it out of your pocket/purse/wherever.

Otherwise it seems like the RL360 might be a good fit for you. Others will chime in on that one I am sure.
 

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Quick background. I have owned the 1st Gen V1 for about 15 years now after buying my first performance car (modded 335). I know own a M4 and am still using the same detector, although I have upgraded it a couple of times. Obviously I have been very happy with it and have to say it has saved me some money. Fast forward to this week and my wife picked up a speeding ticket, which was her 2nd in about 5 years. She doesn't want to fool with radar detectors, not really into tech, and only runs waze when needing directions. I want her to change some of her habits and use the "tools of the trade" so to speak. However, in order to do that I realize I need to get her a detector that has low driver input and easy to understand. We are also about to purchase a third vehicle and want to have at least two detectors, with atleast one that can be easily transferable between two vehicles (those magnet mounts sound good for that). At first, I thought it was a no brainer when I realized Valentine had a 2nd generation and have already printed the form to do the upgrade! My thought was to get the new version and have it installed in a way that is easy to move between vehicles. But after doing more research, I realized the V1G2 is not the best choice for my wife as she is not going to fool with connecting a radar detector to her phone (although I would and may still get it for M4). So back to the drawing board.

After a ton of research, I have narrowed my selection down to the Uniden R7 and Redline 360 since both seem to be setup and forget, don't require a phone for normal usage (I would be okay doing initially setup/learning), have great range, good KA band (live in NC where KA reigns supreme), upgradable, and both have direction arrows (which I can no longer go without); all of these should be agreeable to the WF.... Although I really don't want to pay $750 for a RD, knowing how long I have kept my V1 and the fact we do really need 2 RDs, it seems the cost isn't as big an issue as long it is justifiable with additional features/performance.

I am hoping actual user's of these detectors can give me some feedback on what works well for folks that just want to jump in and drive, but also is accurate, with little false alarms that overwhelm the driver. My wife never bothered to learn all the nuances of my V1, probably because it had so many false alarms, which of course gets worse each year since its in need of upgrading. To be fair, I think I am still going to upgrade to the V1G2 since I use android for my phone and use Waze religiously. Since the G2 apps mesh so well with those two, I assume I am a good fit for the G2.... ;) However, the car for planned for the new R7/360 is also our family travel and DD car so I want to make sure I like it too... ;)
I can throw out some ideas, because my wife is similar in that it has to be a near zero interaction device.
So Auto lockouts and Auto as much everything else....

Great new option: Radenso DS1, As much sensitivity as you'll ever need on every band, with great filtering for a quiet drive. Very pretty display which is important to the ladies. Auto mode adjusts X & K Band based on GPS speed. Auto lockouts. Only $399 for top rung performance.

Redline 360c: Expensive, heavy. Does everything you want with top range, but poor reactivity to I/O bursts, especially K.
Auto Mode and Auto lockouts. Great filtering, another quiet detector. Nice Darth Vader looks but small display.

R7: While it has auto lockouts they are a work in progress, others do it better for now. It also can't change modes automatically based on speed. While biggest display, it is also big physically, and not very cosmetically appealing. It's the work horse of detectors and does best with a knowledgeable person manipulating its settings. A valid choice but not top pick for hands off.

Now for the controversy.
Watch for a deal on Cobra DualPro 360 in the $300 - $350USD range. Or buy a used one.
It's based on the Max 360 series Escorts, the only Cobra worth any consideration.
It's fully automated for lockouts and has Auto Mode like the Redline and most Escorts.
Excellent filtering of K Band junk, only outdone by the very best detectors by a small margin.
And it has arrows, small ones but they are there.
It does everything well, but not an extreme range detector like the choices above.
For helping correct your wife's driving it's a valid performance choice.
It's pretty enough and set it and forget it operation.
Very easy to live with.
**Be aware of the Escort sleeping issue suffered by the Escort Max 360 lineup, there have been a few reports of the DP360 having the same issue**
For the money and ease of use, I have my wife running the DualPro 360 in her new Subaru Outback.
It's all around town driving lots of start and stop, shopping malls etc. No issues whatsoever.
It also has the quick release mag mount of the Redline so up and down is very lady friendly.

The Max 360c is a possible choice, I'd buy used, not full retail as IMO it's overpriced by a large margin.
Avoid the OG Max 360 as it lacks some features that are important to quiet operation like segmentation.

My wife had the Pro M up until recently and though good, the lack of auto lockouts and her unwillingness to manually do anything, well into the DP360 she goes.

Good luck!
 

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I like the RL360c for my wife's ride. Autolockouts and good BSM filtering. The Radenso DS1 is also a good choice and significantly cheaper.
 

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Well, some folks around here would say you don't need an app for the G2...........It would certainly rule on Ka which NC trooper use with I/O. You could pair it to your wife's phone for the features she wants and let it connect and do its thing as long as she has a phone with her. You don't even have to take it out of your pocket/purse/wherever.

Otherwise it seems like the RL360 might be a good fit for you. Others will chime in on that one I am sure.
Interesting, maybe the way to go is to go ahead and upgrade my V1 to the G2 and see how that works. One reason I say that is cause it looks like the 360 sold out again. So might be a long wait unless I find it somewhere else. I swore it was available a couple of days ago.
I like the RL360c for my wife's ride. Autolockouts and good BSM filtering. The Radenso DS1 is also a good choice and significantly cheaper.
Thanks DC Fluid and Ragged Edge, I will give a closer look at the Radenso DS1 too. For some reason I eliminated that one, probably due to lack of arrows.
 

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My wife has had the R7 and V1G2 in her vehicle. After riding once with my R360C it was lost to her vehicle forever and she hasn’t needed me to do anything since as it auto updates while she is still near garage. Expensive but made my life easy so far
 

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I have a V1G2. I used the factory app, V1 Connection, to turn off X band & to update the detector. Updating either the R7 or Redline 360c cannot be as easy as updating the V1G2. My 84 year old mother cannot work a smart phone yet she would have no problem updating a V1G2. Besides, you can turn off X band & update it for her.

Sure, if you are an aficionado you can run JBV1. Did you know there is a 30 page PDF manual for it? I've had and used radar detectors for 45 years. I use a V1G2 usually without an app. It does what it is supposed to do all by itself. Does your wife need frequency display? Probably not. Low speed muting? Get a Savvy. Lockouts? Could be more risky than convenient.

I have had zero quality control issues ever with a Valentine detector (and that is almost 30 years). I cannot myself comment on the R7 or Redline 360c, but snoop around.

My wife hates radar detectors, I don't think I could get her to use one, but if I was to get her one I'd drop down to a Uniden DFR8 and see if she would actually go for using it.

Good luck, and let us know what you end up doing!
 

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I have a V1G2. I used the factory app, V1 Connection, to turn off X band & to update the detector. Updating either the R7 or Redline 360c cannot be as easy as updating the V1G2. My 84 year old mother cannot work a smart phone yet she would have no problem updating a V1G2. Besides, you can turn off X band & update it for her.

Sure, if you are an aficionado you can run JBV1. Did you know there is a 30 page PDF manual for it? I've had and used radar detectors for 45 years. I use a V1G2 usually without an app. It does what it is supposed to do all by itself. Does your wife need frequency display? Probably not. Low speed muting? Get a Savvy. Lockouts? Could be more risky than convenient.

I have had zero quality control issues ever with a Valentine detector (and that is almost 30 years). I cannot myself comment on the R7 or Redline 360c, but snoop around.

My wife hates radar detectors, I don't think I could get her to use one, but if I was to get her one I'd drop down to a Uniden DFR8 and see if she would actually go for using it.

Good luck, and let us know what you end up doing!
The Redline 360c is the king of easy updates.
Turn on the WiFi and it will do all updates automatically, database too, whenever you are connected, say to your home network when in your garage, or car hotspot.
Once setup, no need for any action ever again.
 

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Interesting, maybe the way to go is to go ahead and upgrade my V1 to the G2 and see how that works. One reason I say that is cause it looks like the 360 sold out again. So might be a long wait unless I find it somewhere else. I swore it was available a couple of days ago.

Thanks DC Fluid and Ragged Edge, I will give a closer look at the Radenso DS1 too. For some reason I eliminated that one, probably due to lack of arrows.
The G2 is gonna be very different as far as it will false a whole lot less than the G1, hence less dependence on an app.
 

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My wife is traveling out of town without me this weekend, and I have her a choice of my RL360c or V1G2. I have tried to get her to download V1Driver because she likes having an auto mute without having to hit a button.

She (and my teenage girl) both declined to download an app, so she took the RL360c. She prefers the set it and forget it all in one RL360c that will auto mute an alert without touching a button.

Both the RL360c and V1G2 are great detectors and perform well against Ka band. I personally would get a V1G2 for you and a RL360c for her if it is in the budget. The R7 is great too.

If you are only going to get a one detector for your wife, I would lean towards the RL360c.
 

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I would lean towards a DS1 if you want to have something that she can setup and leave alone. Been driving around with mine now for a couple of weeks and definitely a set it and forget it unit for someone not wanting to bother with the tech side of things. Very quiet unit with very little interaction. Especially if the wife isn’t a road racer on speed.
 

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It just so happens that I'm also from I/O hell NC! The love of my life is killing it with a R1/R1 ghetto arrows setup! I have several R1's so this was a no brainer. While I wouldn't recommend this in your case, a 1 R1 or R3 would be a great choice for your wife in NC. They have tons of range and eat 34.7 and 35.5 up like candy. They are also great against both Q/T and I/O. They are just as good against K band as well which is something I can't say about my G2's. Lucky for us we don't see hardly any K band, but if she runs into it, she'll be ready! I set it up for her well over a year ago and have let it eat since! She knows how to reach up and hit city mode or advanced mode to calm down K band if needed as well. She knows all about the G2, DS1 and RL360C because of me, LMAO, but won't let me even think of touching her R1's! If it ain't broke, don't fix it! She has countless saves with this combo and drives all over the eastern USA! You can also get them for a great price right now while everyone is breaking their necks to get a DS1!
 

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I like the RL360c for my wife's ride. Autolockouts and good BSM filtering. The Radenso DS1 is also a good choice and significantly cheaper.

I’ll second @RaggedEdge’s opinion as the RL360C is what I installed in my wife’s vehicle as well.

Additionally, like @RaggedEdge said, the DS1 is also a good choice that has performed very impressively in multiple tests as documented on the forum.
 

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My wife is traveling out of town without me this weekend, and I have her a choice of my RL360c or V1G2. I have tried to get her to download V1Driver because she likes having an auto mute without having to hit a button.

She (and my teenage girl) both declined to download an app, so she took the RL360c. She prefers the set it and forget it all in one RL360c that will auto mute an alert without touching a button.

Both the RL360c and V1G2 are great detectors and perform well against Ka band. I personally would get a V1G2 for you and a RL360c for her if it is in the budget. The R7 is great too.

If you are only going to get a one detector for your wife, I would lean towards the RL360c.
Yes, I am definitely leaning toward this! I actually just found a couple of stores selling the RL360 online (outside of Escort which shows they are out). As far as my V1, my VIN # is showing I can get about ~$100 off by sending them my V1G1, so that is a good option for me!
 

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As far as my V1, my VIN # is showing I can get about ~$100 off by sending them my V1G1, so that is a good option for me!
I think you'll get more for the V1G1 selling it on Ebay or here.
My wife and I love our R7. I know how to set it up, so now it's just put it on its mount and turn it on. We get great performance out of it.
My second choice for an arrow detector would be the RL360c. Expensive, but feature rich and easy updating.
If arrows don't matter to the wife, the DS1 should be a no brainer. $399 and matches or beats the top 3 detectors in range and sensitivity. It also has several options to get the best experience for your driving area.
 

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Thanks for all the help on this thread. I found a RL360 available from Car Toys late last night and immediately put an order in since it appears to be already sold out again at Best Buy and Escort site. There standard shipping is 2 day air, so should get it tomorrow or Wed by the latest. Looking forward to setting it up and trying it out for a spin. Will likely temp put it in my M4 side by side the V1 to do some comparison tests before permanently hardwiring it in my Jeep Grand Cherokee (wife/family car).
 

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Thanks for all the help on this thread. I found a RL360 available from Car Toys late last night and immediately put an order in since it appears to be already sold out again at Best Buy and Escort site. There standard shipping is 2 day air, so should get it tomorrow or Wed by the latest. Looking forward to setting it up and trying it out for a spin. Will likely temp put it in my M4 side by side the V1 to do some comparison tests before permanently hardwiring it in my Jeep Grand Cherokee (wife/family car).
Congrats on the RL360C! One thing to keep in mind however, the reason I didn't recommend it was because it needs help against I/O both on Ka band and K band. I was hit with point blank 34.7 I/O several times today both front and rear by 2 of NC's finest and my G2 ate it up! Looks like the boys are getting back after it again in my area! Hopefully Escort will fix this because in NC, at least in my experience, all you will see is very nasty I/O.
 
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Congrats on the RL360C! One thing to keep in mind however, the reason I didn't recommend it was because it's one of the worst out there against I/O both on Ka band and K band. I was hit with point blank 34.7 I/O several times today both front and rear by 2 of NC's finest and my G2 ate it up! Looks like the boys are getting back after it again in my area! Hopefully Escort will fix this because in NC, at least in my experience, all you will see is very nasty I/O.
Thanks for the heads up. I am curious where you are in NC. I live in Charlotte city limits so they are to lazy here to I/O all day since they would be hitting the switch off and on every second, lol. Thus, I usually see State Troopers, and especially Charlotte City police, just leave it on all the time while trying to look inconspicuous on the side of the road. So that's better for folks like us running RDs. Although late at night, beware here too. But I feel your pain if your in more of a rural area.

I grew up in Moore County and the troopers there always used I/O. Atleast the rest of the cops (local city and sheriff) mostly left there X and K band on all the time (this was back in the 80s/90s)...
 

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Thanks for the heads up. I am curious where you are in NC. I live in Charlotte city limits so they are to lazy here to I/O all day since they would be hitting the switch off and on every second, lol. Thus, I usually see State Troopers, and especially Charlotte City police, just leave it on all the time while trying to look inconspicuous on the side of the road. So that's better for folks like us running RDs. Although late at night, beware here too. But I feel your pain if your in more of a rural area.

I grew up in Moore County and the troopers there always used I/O. Atleast the rest of the cops (local city and sheriff) mostly left there X and K band on all the time (this was back in the 80s/90s)...
I'm in eastern NC near Greenville. These Troopers in this part of the state are ruthless with I/O! If I faced any K band, especially I/O I'd be SOL with my G2 as well! The RL360C has incredible range and hopefully that will help out by picking it up well before you're in the kill zone.
 

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