2 Weeks, 2300 Mile DS1 Initial Release Review

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I have been running the DS1 daily since getting it close to 2 weeks ago. I have put a lot of miles on it and have run it through the wringer.


Here are my thoughts on the detector:

Physical attributes:

It's a very nicely sized detector, somewhat compact (a little thicker than some more stealthy detectors, but overall not bad at all).

It's lightweight. This is a good thing, as heavy detectors tend to not stay put in their mounts at times.

It has great build quality. No rattles, the case fits well, and it doesn't flex. The buttons have nice feel and don't feel like they catch.

The screen is glossy and looks nice when looking at it. However, in some lighting conditions, this is a downfall. While the glossy screen adds to the initial feel of quality, sunlight reflections when trying to read the display is not something I want.

The mute button is placed where it should be. Right on the front of the detector. Volume controls and menu controls are OK. I wish the volume buttons had some texture or elevation to them to help finding them in the dark or when it's mounted high and tight (more on the high and tight later)

The mounting system for the detector has potential with the adoption of the 1/4" universal mounting standard.

Accessories:

I like the included coiled cord, it's well constructed and was thought out very well. It's long enough for most situations, and has a nice right angle at the connector end, eliminating turn-down stress to the cord.

The suction cup mount is too large. It makes mounting high and tight a nightmare for even my large vehicles. (not a huge deal, you can adapt the magnetic mount to the R7 style mount with ease...without purchasing or fabricating adapters)

The carrying case is high quality, I love it. My only nit-pick with it is that it's a bit small and is tough to get the mount in with the detector and cord.

I wish it came with the direct wire cord included in the package instead of an additional purchase. I haven't had the time to install my Radenso direct wire kit yet, but will add my thoughts on that when I do.

Now on to my thoughts on how it works as a radar detector:

This is a great little detector. I believe it's the best single horn detector I have ever used. It is so good, that it beats several (more expensive) dual horn detectors in performance and/or ease of living with as a daily driver detector. It outperforms all Escort/Bel/Cobra arrow detectors except the RL360C, which is almost twice as expensive. As far as living with day-to-day, I would choose this over any of them. In fact, if I didn't already have an R7, I would say this would be a better choice. It performs pretty close to the R7, is quieter, better built, and is all around easier to deal with.

The autolockouts work well. I have found during bench testing there are some anomalies to the lockouts, but they aren't a huge deal and don't seem to have caused any issues driving. Overall they work good, light years better than the R7's autolockouts.

The Automute function is a must for me on this detector. The automute does seem to have an issue (along with some other settings), where it resets itself to default after power cycling. Thankfully, this isn't a huge deal.

The tones on the detector are very....unique....I think they know this as well, and hopefully they add some more distinct tones to the detector.

The volume of the detector is too low. Even at full volume, I feel that it's not loud enough to cut through road noise and louder music.

The auto brightness is too dim, and it gets worse the higher you mount it. I find myself putting it on full bright and leaving it there.

The display is good. I think it could be great, but I don't think they are making full use of it right now. The signal strength on the display is hard to translate at a quick glance. More information available and more customization in this department would be very welcome.

The ramp up is...alright. It goes to full blast way sooner than it should and during strong encounters it can be a bit jittery.

With regards to performance, it performs better than any other detector currently in its class. It is better than the R3, destroys the DP360 and other M6 Escort detectors. This is a better detector than the Max 3. It doesn't "beat" the detectors above its class, but it certainly does a good job punching in that class. It's very close in performance to an R7.

BSM filtering: It's not as good as an R3, but very close to an R7. In some ways it can be better than the R7 (if you run it in Auto Mode).

I/O performance: It's great. Better than the R series, and on another planet compared to the Escort offerings.

Changing modes is kind of a pain. Hopefully the release of Bluetooth will resolve this complaint, but I dislike it when there is no quick way to change modes on a detector without going through a menu. Perhaps in the future they can have a multiple button press or a long press of a single button to allow mode changes (or better yet, some presets). The good news is, I don't find myself really wishing to change modes that often, unlike the R3/R7.

There is a strange buzzing sound that is present, I can hear it in my quieter vehicles at lower speeds or in my louder vehicles when stopped and the music is off. Not a huge deal, but for some, this kind of noise can be an annoyance. My daughter has made comments about it several times, my wife has never said a word about it.

To summarize:

The DS1 is a great value. It offers performance close to detectors that cost hundreds more, performs better than many detectors that cost much hundreds more. It's easy to live with, and has a lot of potential. I kind of look at this as a Theia starter pack. I can't wait to see how they develop this!

EDIT: I will also say this: This is the best Radenso product I have ever used.
 
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I agree that the Screen is a big issue and that audio could be louder. The AutoDim has been talked about, as being way to sensitive to go dim with a mild tint on the windshield. As for the Display in reading, Mostly Sunny or Bright Sun, the screen is near washed out, maybe be of that glossy overlay, and is very easily faded out with reflection. Overcast/More cloudy, and even night, the screen is nice. I would give it the better night drive screen that I have seen.

I haven't noticed a buzz, but will have 4 to see if there might be.

Thanks for the overview.
 
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I also notice sometimes glare on a R1 and R7 depending on the sun, compared to my v1gen2 I feel the R7 is a little harder to see in those rare occasions. Tho I have tints in my 2nd car so no more sun interference at all. Sorry to go off subject, but good write-up.
 

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Amazing write up rags. Thanks!
 

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Great review! I love that you addressed a whole bunch of practical details about the detector. :)
 

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There is a strange buzzing sound that is present, I can hear it in my quieter vehicles at lower speeds or in my louder vehicles when stopped and the music is off. Not a huge deal, but for some, this kind of noise can be an annoyance. My daughter has made comments about it several times, my wife has never said a word about it.

To summarize:

The DS1 is a great value.
They all “hum,” just some are more audible than others. I listened to r1, r7, pro m, o-rl, x50 black, v1, 2 v1g2, rl360. V1g2 is the “noisiest” of my bunch. I first noticed it on my v1g2 so I plugged them all in, one at a time, for s&g’s.

Thanks for the write up, sounds like another satisfied customer. The biggest points seem to be the mount, glossy screen, but otherwise a pretty good detector (even without arrows). Lots of range and reactivity, industry standard features, and decent bsm filtering so far.
 

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They all “hum,” just some are more audible than others. I listened to r1, r7, pro m, o-rl, x50 black, v1, 2 v1g2, rl360. V1g2 is the “noisiest” of my bunch. I first noticed it on my v1g2 so I plugged them all in, one at a time, for s&g’s.

Thanks for the write up, sounds like another satisfied customer. The biggest points seem to be the mount, glossy screen, but otherwise a pretty good detector (even without arrows). Lots of range and reactivity, industry standard features, and decent bsm filtering so far.
The DS1 is the loudest of them all. Trust me.
 

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I have been running the DS1 daily since getting it close to 2 weeks ago. I have put a lot of miles on it and have run it through the wringer.


Here are my thoughts on the detector:

Physical attributes:

It's a very nicely sized detector, somewhat compact (a little thicker than some more stealthy detectors, but overall not bad at all).

It's lightweight. This is a good thing, as heavy detectors tend to not stay put in their mounts at times.

It has great build quality. No rattles, the case fits well, and it doesn't flex. The buttons have nice feel and don't feel like they catch.

The screen is glossy and looks nice when looking at it. However, in some lighting conditions, this is a downfall. While the glossy screen adds to the initial feel of quality, sunlight reflections when trying to read the display is not something I want.

The mute button is placed where it should be. Right on the front of the detector. Volume controls and menu controls are OK. I wish the volume buttons had some texture or elevation to them to help finding them in the dark or when it's mounted high and tight (more on the high and tight later)

The mounting system for the detector has potential with the adoption of the 1/4" universal mounting standard.

Accessories:

I like the included coiled cord, it's well constructed and was thought out very well. It's long enough for most situations, and has a nice right angle at the connector end, eliminating turn-down stress to the cord.

The suction cup mount is too large. It makes mounting high and tight a nightmare for even my large vehicles. (not a huge deal, you can adapt the magnetic mount to the R7 style mount with ease...without purchasing or fabricating adapters)

The carrying case is high quality, I love it. My only nit-pick with it is that it's a bit small and is tough to get the mount in with the detector and cord.

I wish it came with the direct wire cord included in the package instead of an additional purchase. I haven't had the time to install my Radenso direct wire kit yet, but will add my thoughts on that when I do.

Now on to my thoughts on how it works as a radar detector:

This is a great little detector. I believe it's the best single horn detector I have ever used. It is so good, that it beats several (more expensive) dual horn detectors in performance and/or ease of living with as a daily driver detector. It outperforms all Escort/Bel/Cobra arrow detectors except the RL360C, which is almost twice as expensive. As far as living with day-to-day, I would choose this over any of them. In fact, if I didn't already have an R7, I would say this would be a better choice. It performs pretty close to the R7, is quieter, better built, and is all around easier to deal with.

The autolockouts work well. I have found during bench testing there are some anomalies to the lockouts, but they aren't a huge deal and don't seem to have caused any issues driving. Overall they work good, light years better than the R7's autolockouts.

The Automute function is a must for me on this detector. The automute does seem to have an issue (along with some other settings), where it resets itself to default after power cycling. Thankfully, this isn't a huge deal.

The tones on the detector are very....unique....I think they know this as well, and hopefully they add some more distinct tones to the detector.

The volume of the detector is too low. Even at full volume, I feel that it's not loud enough to cut through road noise and louder music.

The auto brightness is too dim, and it gets worse the higher you mount it. I find myself putting it on full bright and leaving it there.

The display is good. I think it could be great, but I don't think they are making full use of it right now. The signal strength on the display is hard to translate at a quick glance. More information available and more customization in this department would be very welcome.

The ramp up is...alright. It goes to full blast way sooner than it should and during strong encounters it can be a bit jittery.

With regards to performance, it performs better than any other detector currently in its class. It is better than the R3, destroys the DP360 and other M6 Escort detectors. This is a better detector than the Max 3. It doesn't "beat" the detectors above its class, but it certainly does a good job punching in that class. It's very close in performance to an R7.

BSM filtering: It's not as good as an R3, but very close to an R7. In some ways it can be better than the R7 (if you run it in Auto Mode).

I/O performance: It's great. Better than the R series, and on another planet compared to the Escort offerings.

Changing modes is kind of a pain. Hopefully the release of Bluetooth will resolve this complaint, but I dislike it when there is no quick way to change modes on a detector without going through a menu. Perhaps in the future they can have a multiple button press or a long press of a single button to allow mode changes (or better yet, some presets). The good news is, I don't find myself really wishing to change modes that often, unlike the R3/R7.

There is a strange buzzing sound that is present, I can hear it in my quieter vehicles at lower speeds or in my louder vehicles when stopped and the music is off. Not a huge deal, but for some, this kind of noise can be an annoyance. My daughter has made comments about it several times, my wife has never said a word about it.

To summarize:

The DS1 is a great value. It offers performance close to detectors that cost hundreds more, performs better than many detectors that cost much hundreds more. It's easy to live with, and has a lot of potential. I kind of look at this as a Theia starter pack. I can't wait to see how they develop this!

EDIT: I will also say this: This is the best Radenso product I have ever used.
Good Review- I see you also have the V1Gen2- how does it compare to say the R7?
 

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Good Review- I see you also have the V1Gen2- how does it compare to say the R7?
The V1G2 is superior on Ka by a significant margin. The R7 is better on K. For BSM filtering the V1G2 is better.
 

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Nice review, I am in the first third of a round trip from Ohio to Arizona and back. Will come back a slightly different route to include different states. So will have 4K+ mile review at the end If the month.
so far a great detector.
I only changed the display brightness to full and the display color to blue and to display the time. That has corrected and washout for me. The rest is factory auto setting.
Very few false alerts, just the Honda Oddesy and some GMC trucks on the road. The auto lockouts at home we’re set after the second and third passes near the DrugMart/CVS/Walgreens stores etc that normally set off most radar detectors because of the security alarm frequencies.

Picks up all the police traps so far from Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri and Oklahoma so far. Ka band works fantastic. So much further than my Radenso XP and Escort Passport 9500 ix.

I have already decided to purchase one more for the wife’s car and another for my sister’s car.
i ordered the direct wire and wired my detector in before I used it. The travel cords are worthless to me as I rarely ever take the out. Maybe a choice of direct wire vs the travel one. Also the mute button is under my dash, no need for a mute button when I can press the mute on the front of the detecto. Genius placement by Radenso. Also thanks to Radenso for the foresight on making the mounting options limitless.
I adapted a Radenso visor clip and installed in my headliner with pressure. Works like a charm.
Post in thread 'DS1 mounted and hardwired'
https://www.rdforum.org/threads/114054/post-1646968
My sister‘s Lincoln needs a wiretap version to the mirror for power To make the install easier.

So far everything I wanted in a new detector!
 

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@Rags you put together a nice writeup. You mentioned to me prior to this review that the sounds are quiet. I picked tones which my ears react to well and don't actually have an issue with the tones. One of the biggest features I would like to see improved is in fact BSM. While it is generally well behaved and has good sensitivity, I hope the tighten that up a bit. I do agree it is a good overall RD and would easily trust it on a road trip.
 

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@Rags - As the others have said, thank you for your outstanding and thorough write up on your experience and thoughts on the Radenso DS1.

You had previously mentioned an issue with the muting. Did you ever resolve this issue?
 

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@Rags - As the others have said, thank you for your outstanding and thorough write up on your experience and thoughts on the Radenso DS1.

You had previously mentioned an issue with the muting. Did you ever resolve this issue?
No, I haven't got a resolution. Automute does mitigate the problem, but if I want it completely silent, the problem persists.
 

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I hate that you can't change Modes with a single button pressThat needs to be addressed asap, even if it's with a button press combo.
 

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The automute power cycle bug will be a non-issue soon.

I hate that you can't change Modes with a single button pressThat needs to be addressed asap, even if it's with a button press combo.

The reason is because non-enthusiasts will accidently hit the button and wonder what is going on with their detector. We get e-mails still regarding the Pro M because they have put it in dark mode when they think it doesn't have power.

Which modes would you be changing between?
 

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The automute power cycle bug will be a non-issue soon.



The reason is because non-enthusiasts will accidently hit the button and wonder what is going on with their detector. We get e-mails still regarding the Pro M because they have put it in dark mode when they think it doesn't have power.

Which modes would you be changing between?
I live on the fringes of town, so if I turn right I want absolute maximum range (K up to 100%) because it's long straights along farm land. If I turn left, I hit speed signs and grocery stores within a mile.

I understand I'm more of an outlier than your typical customer, but I heavily relied on changing modes manually (and eventually via JBV1 automations) on my V1G2.

I completely agree with the Dim settings being confusing to your average Joe. However, I also need to frequently adjust these with the DS1 since the Auto settings are far too dim during the daytime. I did hear Jon say this would be addressed in an update, so that makes me happy.
 

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I live on the fringes of town, so if I turn right I want absolute maximum range (K up to 100%) because it's long straights along farm land. If I turn left, I hit speed signs and grocery stores within a mile.

I understand I'm more of an outlier than your typical customer, but I heavily relied on changing modes manually (and eventually via JBV1 automations) on my V1G2.

I completely agree with the Dim settings being confusing to your average Joe. However, I also need to frequently adjust these with the DS1 since the Auto settings are far too dim during the daytime. I did hear Jon say this would be addressed in an update, so that makes me happy.
I agree with you. I would sooner have the long mute press change from Auto to Custom mode than have it make a user mark.
 

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