V1Gen2 Detection Range NYPD Hwy Unit

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Hello,
Just wondering what type of range people are averaging with nypd... pic of today's late drive looks like it acquired first time and lost it, then reacquired at 2.1 miles he then shot laser at roughly 1500+ feet (estimated). And second one acquired at 1.7 miles.

Location: Belt Parkway longisland bound

First cop off BQE before Verezzano Bridge on small pocket on right side (Dark Blue Charger unmarked)

Second after Verezzano Bridge (NYPD Hwy Unit marked Charger)


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I always wonder why cops run radar at the same time they do laser, seems counterintuitive and defeats the purpose. But it sure is nice of them!
Yes lol I've seen Nypd hwy unit do it twice before when he has radar on and also shooting laser, go figure...
 

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I always wonder why cops run radar at the same time they do laser, seems counterintuitive and defeats the purpose. But it sure is nice of them!
Just the opposite happened to me yesterday. I came over the Outerbridge into Staten Island from NJ. I was heading onto the west shore expressway. I was testing out my new Radenso DS1 and I got a KA alert. I also see he's marked on waze and he was right there as I passed. I thought the coast was clear as no other units marked on waze ahead and the KA alert ended. So I sped up and just as I did my escorts zr5 jammers lit up with a laser alert. Sure enough a marked unit was shooting laser by bouncing it off his rear view mirror and with no KA alert. Every encounter I've had has been with the mirror trick.
 
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Just the opposite happened to me yesterday. I came over the Outerbridge into Staten Island from NJ. I was heading onto the west shore expressway. I was testing out my new Radenso DS1 and I got a KA alert. I also see he's marked on waze and he was right there as I passed. I thought the coast was clear as no other units marked on waze ahead and the KA alert ended. So I sped up and just as I did my escorts zr5 jammers lit up with a laser alert. Sure enough a marked unit was shooting laser by bouncing it off his rear view mirror and with no KA alert. Every encounter I've had has been with the mirror trick.
Interesting, I very rarely use Outerbridge 90% of the time I use Goethals in and out of Staten island. What did you replace with the Ds1?
 

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They seem to have C/O Ka band always going. Doesn't matter if they are running laser or not. No idea why. Not complaining, LOL
 

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They seem to have C/O Ka band always going. Doesn't matter if they are running laser or not. No idea why. Not complaining, LOL
Yes majority of the time, had only 1 time in past year were on belt parkway radar wasn't on only shooting laser.
 

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Interesting, I very rarely use Outerbridge 90% of the time I use Goethals in and out of Staten island. What did you replace with the Ds1?
Didn't replace, just adding to my existing Redline 360C. I'll stick with the Redline in NYC because it's well integrated with the ZR5 shifters and it's only KA in NYC. I'll probably use the DS1 in rental cars when I travel for work and in my car when I'm up in New England with a lot more K band and I/O shots as I really like the reactivity of the DS1.
 

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Didn't replace, just adding to my existing Redline 360C. I'll stick with the Redline in NYC because it's well integrated with the ZR5 shifters and it's only KA in NYC. I'll probably use the DS1 in rental cars when I travel for work and in my car when I'm up in New England with a lot more K band and I/O shots as I really like the reactivity of the DS1.
That's one of the reasons I chose a V1gen2 , because with jbv1 it changes settings based on location, so in NYC I only have KA band and laser (while I'm deciding on jammers then turning of laser) NY/PA i have everything turned on but X band , NJ and OH have X band on with everything else, and so on...
 

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I always wonder why cops run radar at the same time they do laser, seems counterintuitive and defeats the purpose. But it sure is nice of them!
Sometimes it is on purpose--LEO's here use it to "screen" cars as it provide a heads up that someone is speeding and that they need to pin point with lidar. Other times they just leave it running when they move from one spot to another.
 

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Bump nobody has their distances to share? Maybe in other big city terrains?
 

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I will soon! Just order one as my first RD 5 minutes ago!
Okay, Don't forget to set and override for NYC its only KA Band or if you want you can see how it filters out K and X bands and how jbv1 works to auto mute them... Out of the Box with Jbv1 not connected V1gen2 was better on K And X then my R7 at 60% Sensitivity and all filters and Blocks for K turned on. And side note i leave it in Big L Advanced Logic mode... the 2 encounters i had with K in over 10,000+ miles were on the same day in PA and in Big L mode with additional K filters on in Jbv1 i got detection range 1.5 - 2.0 miles including mountain and forest terrain on I80.
 

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That's one of the reasons I chose a V1gen2 , because with jbv1 it changes settings based on location, so in NYC I only have KA band and laser (while I'm deciding on jammers then turning of laser) NY/PA i have everything turned on but X band , NJ and OH have X band on with everything else, and so on...

Okay, Don't forget to set and override for NYC its only KA Band or if you want you can see how it filters out K and X bands and how jbv1 works to auto mute them... Out of the Box with Jbv1 not connected V1gen2 was better on K And X then my R7 at 60% Sensitivity and all filters and Blocks for K turned on. And side note i leave it in Big L Advanced Logic mode... the 2 encounters i had with K in over 10,000+ miles were on the same day in PA and in Big L mode with additional K filters on in Jbv1 i got detection range 1.5 - 2.0 miles including mountain and forest terrain on I80.
I appreciate this. Just out of curiosity, how does one know 100% for sure what bands are used and which one aren't in a given area? I know there's guides, but is it really worth the risk to not have, say, K band enabled in NYC or any other band in any given location?
 
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I appreciate this. Just out of curiosity, how does one know 100% for sure what bands are used and which one aren't in a given area? I know there's guides, but is it really worth the risk to not have, say, K band enabled in NYC or any other band in any given location?
Well with in the bounds of New York City 5 boroughs its only KA band the 100%... X Band is still in NJ and OH, but pretty much obsolete every were else... K band could technically be anywhere. Its all have to do with with times each band was used first came X band then K band and than KA... so pretty much agency with a good budget will not buy old technology. Maybe someone else with more experience can add on top of what I added.
On side notes iv seen 2 times K band in PA
Never yet seen legit X band
Tho I let my friend borrow my R7 for a cross country trip and he saw X Band cop in Tennessee.
 

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What part of Tennessee? I live in North Mississippi and I am all over Western Tennessee and all I ever see is K or KA with the very rare Laser hits. Was it a local sheriff, town, or Hwy patrol? Thanks in advance.
 

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I appreciate this. Just out of curiosity, how does one know 100% for sure what bands are used and which one aren't in a given area? I know there's guides, but is it really worth the risk to not have, say, K band enabled in NYC or any other band in any given location?

Just like the rest of the risks we take in life, you have to determine whether its worth it for yourself. However the technology is getting to the point where we hopefully we might be able to keep all bands and segments on, without the annoyance of getting false alerts.

A lot of users not only rely on the lists, but the contracts they have in a given area and our collective experience (like people posting about out of spec guns, pictures of equipment on FB). In a new area or with a new detector, a lot of us will run it with all bands and segments open until you get the feel for the detector and your surroundings. Also some of the newer detectors are really good at filtering, so the setting can be be a little different depending on how well the detector filters out K band. For the G2 - I pretty much run that one wide open with all bands except for X (unless I am in NJ)- since it does well with the BSM alerts and the phone apps take care of low speed and location based muting. The false alerts are acceptable for me.

However everyone is different and if you want to enable everything, that could be a very good choice for a lot of people. When you become immune to false alerts, that could jeopardize your reaction to a real signal, so it can be a trade off of sorts where each person needs to make an educated choice.
 

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Last Sunday, 1.4 km's against 34.7 Stalker. The cop was facing us parked behind a customer, the detection was around 3 - 4 moderate curves with slight elevation changes. There was higher ground to the side of the road as well. He didn't come into view until the last 200 - 300 metres.
 

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Just like the rest of the risks we take in life, you have to determine whether its worth it for yourself. However the technology is getting to the point where we hopefully we might be able to keep all bands and segments on, without the annoyance of getting false alerts.

A lot of users not only rely on the lists, but the contracts they have in a given area and our collective experience (like people posting about out of spec guns, pictures of equipment on FB). In a new area or with a new detector, a lot of us will run it with all bands and segments open until you get the feel for the detector and your surroundings. Also some of the newer detectors are really good at filtering, so the setting can be be a little different depending on how well the detector filters out K band. For the G2 - I pretty much run that one wide open with all bands except for X (unless I am in NJ)- since it does well with the BSM alerts and the phone apps take care of low speed and location based muting. The false alerts are acceptable for me.

However everyone is different and if you want to enable everything, that could be a very good choice for a lot of people. When you become immune to false alerts, that could jeopardize your reaction to a real signal, so it can be a trade off of sorts where each person needs to make an educated choice.
Thank you for this explanation. I know a lot of people say K band isn't used in NYC. The database shows otherwise. Even if that were the case, I'd imagine some departments hold on to some older guns in case there current guns are down or out for service. They can temporarily use their older model for "revenue".

Based off your explanation, I think I fall into "all bands on" since I'm new and adjust from there.
Cheers!
 

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Thank you for this explanation. I know a lot of people say K band isn't used in NYC. The database shows otherwise. Even if that were the case, I'd imagine some departments hold on to some older guns in case there current guns are down or out for service. They can temporarily use their older model for "revenue".

Based off your explanation, I think I fall into "all bands on" since I'm new and adjust from there.
Cheers!
If you are going to run "wide open": No X-band in NYC (all false alerts, so turn it off). There is probably only 1% legit K-band units in NYC (maybe less). These K-band units are most likely around/in parks, beaches, and around college campuses. So, almost all K-band alerts will be false alerts (more than 99%). You just can't say there are never any K-band in the city. Ka band has few interferences and nearly all reasonably strong alerts are likely real.
 

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