Genevo Pro II NZ Vizir/Phodar/RedFlex detection

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After having completed an install with a Genevo Pro II NZ today and uploading the latest firmware to the device, I had noticed that the radar showed a couple of new options not available before, these were all toggle options in the band settings of the Genevo detector:
- Vizir
- Phodar
- RadFlex (BETA) (I presume spelt wrong and meant to be RedFlex)

I have no idea what Vizir is and don't have any experience with Phodar, so I did not adjust either of these settings with respect to the detector itself, however RedFlex has been the bain of NZ with mobile speed camera vans for a while now. Hopefully Genevo have been able to crack the code, because that instantly puts other manufacturers on notice.

I haven't had the opportunity to test it out yet, the client is due to head away over the weekend so we've returned it to him to use in the meantime and we'll get some better data when I find a RedFlex van next.

Interestingly on the RedFlex toggle front, as it was a standalone option on it's own, it did not require K band to be turned on, nor K filtering. In fact in testing of the toggle while I could, it would not matter if I had K band on or not, the toggle worked fine either way, meaning that either Genevo has some sort of processing happening here that's able to single out RedFlex K band over the rest or we might have a case on our hands where it might be a little too good to be true. Irrespective it looks good going in so I have hope it works, it's really just down to whether it's effective or not. I understand many can pick up on RedFlex signals, but I don't know of any that have been able to defeat it.

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Don't mind the grubby hands, I've been to war with the vehicle

After having completed an install with a Genevo Pro II NZ today and uploading the latest firmware to the device, I had noticed that the radar showed a couple of new options not available before, these were all toggle options in the band settings of the Genevo detector:
- Vizir
- Phodar
- RadFlex (BETA) (I presume spelt wrong and meant to be RedFlex)

I have no idea what Vizir is and don't have any experience with Phodar, so I did not adjust either of these settings with respect to the detector itself, however RedFlex has been the bain of NZ with mobile speed camera vans for a while now. Hopefully Genevo have been able to crack the code, because that instantly puts other manufacturers on notice.

I haven't had the opportunity to test it out yet, the client is due to head away over the weekend so we've returned it to him to use in the meantime and we'll get some better data when I find a RedFlex van next.

Interestingly on the RedFlex toggle front, as it was a standalone option on it's own, it did not require K band to be turned on, nor K filtering. In fact in testing of the toggle while I could, it would not matter if I had K band on or not, the toggle worked fine either way, meaning that either Genevo has some sort of processing happening here that's able to single out RedFlex K band over the rest or we might have a case on our hands where it might be a little too good to be true. Irrespective it looks good going in so I have hope it works, it's really just down to whether it's effective or not. I understand many can pick up on RedFlex signals, but I don't know of any that have been able to defeat it.

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I own Genovo Pro (German version with english firmware) and I also have the same options.
 

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Don't mind the grubby hands, I've been to war with the vehicle

After having completed an install with a Genevo Pro II NZ today and uploading the latest firmware to the device, I had noticed that the radar showed a couple of new options not available before, these were all toggle options in the band settings of the Genevo detector:
- Vizir
- Phodar
- RadFlex (BETA) (I presume spelt wrong and meant to be RedFlex)

I have no idea what Vizir is and don't have any experience with Phodar, so I did not adjust either of these settings with respect to the detector itself, however RedFlex has been the bain of NZ with mobile speed camera vans for a while now. Hopefully Genevo have been able to crack the code, because that instantly puts other manufacturers on notice.

I haven't had the opportunity to test it out yet, the client is due to head away over the weekend so we've returned it to him to use in the meantime and we'll get some better data when I find a RedFlex van next.

Interestingly on the RedFlex toggle front, as it was a standalone option on it's own, it did not require K band to be turned on, nor K filtering. In fact in testing of the toggle while I could, it would not matter if I had K band on or not, the toggle worked fine either way, meaning that either Genevo has some sort of processing happening here that's able to single out RedFlex K band over the rest or we might have a case on our hands where it might be a little too good to be true. Irrespective it looks good going in so I have hope it works, it's really just down to whether it's effective or not. I understand many can pick up on RedFlex signals, but I don't know of any that have been able to defeat it.

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Handed my Genevo back. Total waste of money. Turns out, Redflex is lowest band on K band. Check NZ Red flex frequency to see. Redflex is narrow band and pointed down at road. Gives you max 15-25 metres warning. Genevo comes with impressive 400 metre warning promo. Dont believe it. None of the fixed speed cameras (all doing redflex) in Wellington give you more than 10 metres warning.
 

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None of the fixed speed cameras (all doing redflex) in Wellington give you more than 10 metres warning.

The Redflex option is being developed and enhanced by Genevo with mobile camera vans in mind. The fixed cameras are handled beautifully by the GPS database.

That said, the testing we're involved with for Genevo suggests the CURRENTLY AVAILABLE firmware is doing ok against redflex.

This is obviously not a Pro II, but it is a Genevo, it is Redflex, and it is working here in New Zealand. We're expecting another update for the Pro II soon.

 

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The Redflex option is being developed and enhanced by Genevo with mobile camera vans in mind. The fixed cameras are handled beautifully by the GPS database.

That said, the testing we're involved with for Genevo suggests the CURRENTLY AVAILABLE firmware is doing ok against redflex.

This is obviously not a Pro II, but it is a Genevo, it is Redflex, and it is working here in New Zealand. We're expecting another update for the Pro II soon.

Camera vans are manually operated. The little bastard sitting inside the van push's the button. My Max360c gives more warning sitting on K1 setting (redflex) (fixed camera) than this Genevo.
 

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Camera vans are manually operated. The little bastard sitting inside the van push's the button. My Max360c gives more warning sitting on K1 setting (redflex) (fixed camera) than this Genevo.
In regards to fixed camera's you're much better off relying upon a GPS database to cover you as being fixed makes it somewhat more difficult to move than the cheeky buggers in the vans. Really the RedFlex mode for me at least is only really for use against those mobile operators, of which the RedFlex signal the vans use is different to the fixed pole mount ones, albeit I agree it should do both or at least be clear about it, I also think part of it really comes down to this kind of feature being still very new
 

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The escort 360c has the redflex capability. Its contained on the Kn1 band. The Ka 5 is the other one. Funny driving past the fixed camera pole cameras, and seeing of they have been turned on. Only gives you a maximum 20 metre warning, hence the gps positioning warning so good, and to follow up with plugging in co-ords.
 

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