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Gen 1, V1Driver, iPhone 8, Sena 20S. No problems with radar alerts. Is this perhaps a Gen 2 issue?
 

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Not here. Worked well on Gen 1, even better on Gen 2 with integral B/T
 

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Gen 1, V1Driver, iPhone 8, Sena 20S. No problems with radar alerts. Is this perhaps a Gen 2 issue?
When you say no problems with alerts, what do you mean exactly? I can get the alerts, it's just that there's a massive latency issue that renders them useless. It has been suggested this is more of an Apple issue than a V1 issue, but I don't know.
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Not here. Worked well on Gen 1, even better on Gen 2 with integral B/T

Your footer says you are using JBV1. Is that correct? JBV1 works perfectly for me. It was using V1 Driver and an iPhone that was a problem.
 

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When you say no problems with alerts, what do you mean exactly? I can get the alerts, it's just that there's a massive latency issue that renders them useless. It has been suggested this is more of an Apple issue than a V1 issue, but I don't know.
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Your footer says you are using JBV1. Is that correct? JBV1 works perfectly for me. It was using V1 Driver and an iPhone that was a problem.
Sorry for the sloppy wording: what I mean is the alerts arrive reliably and without lag or delay. My phone is in my jacket pocket and teh Bluetooth signal seems fine between the LE dongle, my phone, and the Sena 20S on my helmet.

The only big, obvious differences in our setups are that I'm still using a Gen 1 V1 with the LE Bluetooth dongle.

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Sorry for the sloppy wording: what I mean is the alerts arrive reliably and without lag or delay. My phone is in my jacket pocket and teh Bluetooth signal seems fine between the LE dongle, my phone, and the Sena 20S on my helmet.

The only big, obvious differences in our setups are that I'm still using a Gen 1 V1 with the LE Bluetooth dongle.

-dan
Thanks for the clarification. I have no idea what the issue is with V1G2 and the iPhone, but now that I spent the money for the spare android phone, I am very, very happy with JBV1.
 

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When you say no problems with alerts, what do you mean exactly? I can get the alerts, it's just that there's a massive latency issue that renders them useless. It has been suggested this is more of an Apple issue than a V1 issue, but I don't know.
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Your footer says you are using JBV1. Is that correct? JBV1 works perfectly for me. It was using V1 Driver and an iPhone that was a problem.
Ok. I didn't realise you had used JBV1. Can you not hotspot the android phone, or has it gone?
 

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I've gone with a dedicated rugged Android phone for use as a navigation device on my motorbike. I have installed JBV1, navigation apps and music player. I've paired it with the Bluetooth on my helmet and it automatically connects to a WiFi hotspot on my main phone (in breast pocket on my motorcycle jacket) if I activate it. My main phone is an Android phone, but I would assume that an Apple phone could run a WiFi hotspot just as easily.

Now all I need is for my V1G2 to arrive and then to learn how to setup and use JBV1 (I'll go through Vortex's videos on that) and I'll have a great working setup. I'll probably run my rugged phone/V1G2 in the car for a while to play with the setup during my daily commute, even though this will be pretty much my motorcycle setup. I'll go back to just using the RL360C or R7 in the car once I'm happy that I've become familiar enough with my JBV1/V1G2 setup.
 

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Ok. I didn't realise you had used JBV1. Can you not hotspot the android phone, or has it gone?
I started the thread because I was initially using V1G2 with iPhone and V1 Driver and had massive latency issues. As the thread progresses, I talk about how I bought a dedicated Android and now run JBV1 without any issues.
 

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I guess I should have read the whole thread. I'm turning into a millenial.
 

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I'm a little late to the party but I want to point out that I had similar Bluetooth issues in a car, the problem is/was just the phone. Using a different phone solved my connection issues. I believe if you really dig around here, you can find other mentions of the problem, and the real app fans recommend using an older, high end Android. My dedicated phone was a pretty high end phone, so I took longer to diagnose the actual problem; like you, everything worked when it was mounted close and in the open.
Also as a side note, when getting into the CM, like multiple vehicles, brands, devices, etc, it will be good for you to have access to IOS and Android devices, and a Windows PC.
 

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Hmm,

im running a V1G2 with V1Driver on a iPhone 12 that I put in my jacket pocket. I Bluetooth the phone to my Schuberth helmet and don’t recognize the latency issue. The detector is in my peripheral vision and the arrows on the detector light at the same time as the sound to my helmet. What type of latency timing issue are you seeing?

I am also running the same phone and driver setup with a V1G1 and a dongle in my car. There does seem to be a fraction of a second difference in the V1 versus the sound coming over my audio system but I thought that may be I have an older Bluetooth receiver being fed into an auxiliary jack on the stereo head unit.

Glad to hear you got it worked out though. I would still like to hear what the latency timing was.

Thanks,
 

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Hmm,

im running a V1G2 with V1Driver on a iPhone 12 that I put in my jacket pocket. I Bluetooth the phone to my Schuberth helmet and don’t recognize the latency issue. The detector is in my peripheral vision and the arrows on the detector light at the same time as the sound to my helmet. What type of latency timing issue are you seeing?

I am also running the same phone and driver setup with a V1G1 and a dongle in my car. There does seem to be a fraction of a second difference in the V1 versus the sound coming over my audio system but I thought that may be I have an older Bluetooth receiver being fed into an auxiliary jack on the stereo head unit.

Glad to hear you got it worked out though. I would still like to hear what the latency timing was.

Thanks,
It was anywhere from 4-15 seconds
 

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Falcon,

Thanks for getting back to me. That timing is awful. I recognize a slight delay, but it is much less than a second. I can just make out the difference when I have the sound of the detector and in the helmet with a low speed alarm. I can also see this same small fraction of a second delay in my car setup with the V1 with a dongle.

I will have to keep an eye on this but it’s been over a year and I have not seen an issue. I wonder why there would be such a large variation in timing. When I first set my system up I was really worried about increased delay with a Bluetooth setup and was able to extinguish my concerns. Now I will have to take a more thorough review and verify i don’t have an issue.
 

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Good news. Got the android phone, installed JBV1, got everything set up and it all works flawlessly. Delay is maybe 1/4 of a second. This is exactly what I was hoping to achieve. Now on to the winter ALP install project...
Good choice getting a Pixel. I originally had the first Pixel XL and upgraded to the 5 last year. I couldn't be happier. It's so much better than my wife's iPhone 11. The new Pixel 6, expected to be announced next week, should be extraordinary. Btw, I ride too - a BMWR1100RSL.
 

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I have been playing with my rugged phone running JBV1 for over a week now and things are looking good. I seem to lose around 2-3% per day on standby with JBV1 running in the background (set to open up and run in the foreground if it detects a connection to a V1 RD). This would be somewhere around the power use of the phone on standby without JBV1 running and is much better than Escort Live which seems to suck the battery dry quite quickly.

After charging my phone to 100% on Saturday I'm leaving it in the car all week to sit on standby and power on with JBV1 running for around 5 hours over the week(half and hour each way for my work commute). I'm wanting to see how the battery goes with the phone running without being charged because I will want the option of leaving the phone unplugged when riding the motorcycle in heavy rain, the charging cable being a potential point of water ingress. This is why I've gone with a rugged phone that features a 13,200mAh battery! I think my phone will be capable of running with navigation & JBV1 for a full day of riding, without needing to be plugged in to power.

I'm loving JBV1 with the V1G2. I've setup custom sweeps for both K band and Ka band - wide enough to cover the range used by police in this country, but narrow enough to significantly reduce falses. I've also got JBV1 pushing through a change to advanced logic mode (big L) when below 60kph and all bogeys (A) when above 60kph - maximum sensitivity and responsiveness at speed, but minimum falsing around town. This is the sort of thing you can do with a GPS chip in the phone and a great app like JBV1, THIS is what makes the V1G2 a great detector when paired with a phone. On a long motorcycle trip I won't have the benefit of auto-lockouts because I'll be constantly travelling new roads, but this will be a quiet detector due to the settings and custom sweeps - I think this will do the job well.
 

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I agree, the set up is great for bikes. The only thing I do different is run A mode all the time. But that all depends on where you live.
JB always said that his app was not a power hog.
 

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Given that I am a novice at this, does anyone have any advice on how to reduce the BSM falses I am getting? I know the Mazda one is notorious with the V1, and I experienced that this week. Also getting Honda falses.
 

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Do you need to scan for mobile K band? In my case I just sweep 23.900 - 24.110 for Redflex. That cuts out a lot of K falsing.
Basically just GM now.
 

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Do you need to scan for mobile K band? In my case I just sweep 23.900 - 24.110 for Redflex. That cuts out a lot of K falsing.
Basically just GM now.

I'd imagine the answer to that lies within this forum, but any idea if there is a place that succinctly complies this information? My challenge is that I am in Massachusetts, and I frequently ride all over New England. So I have 6 states to keep track of, plus New York, and Canada if I can ever do that again!
 

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