Help Me With V1G2 Excessive K Band Falsing to BSM & Door Openers

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I drive a Subaru with no radars at all. My wife drives an Odyssey with Honda Sensing. My Gen 2 has no issues at all while in use in the Odyssey. I can also follow my Odyssey at two car lengths and get no alert. However, if the van makes a turn, the radar then points directly at me, I get an alert. I don't get SHBC unless I pull up next to it at close range. What's my point? I think you are on to something with the positioning of Gen 2. On the bike the RD is lower, and you are closer in the video to that CRV than I get to my wife's Odyssey. V1 only let's you engage or disable the K filters vs fine tuning other brand may offer. I find it works for me. But I can see how more fine tuning could be useful in some cases. I've changed my sweeps to match yours. I'm also curious to drive to work and back with V1G2 mounted low on the windscreen. Stay tuned.
 

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Well, right back into the frustration zone.
Got rid of some weak alerts, the ones 2 bars or less.
Any door opener or BSM, (had several on the drive home, most 24.199, 24.200) three bars or more and they punch through with full volume alerts for 1 to 3 beeps. Reminds me of Escort Auto Mode delayed alerts.
So Mute Volume set to zero, profile set to Mute to Zero, and I get these punch throughs.
The real kicker was the last one right near my house, that punched through the Silent Ride under the 50 kph limit.
I haven't had that happen since 3 versions ago when JB said it was a bug he would fix, and he did.
So maybe if I revert back and push my profile again, but have Mute to Mute Volume & Mute Volume set to 1%,.
At least that was working but was at 20% before, then at least I can see if I have a glitch.

I'm also wondering if the settings on the V1 section could be an issue for me?
What should I be doing with SHBC settings?
V1 Priority etc?
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It's not the bogey lock sound is it?
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I'll keep looking through my settings but something definitely seems amiss.
 

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Thanks @DC Fluid for this topic. I am experiencing many of the same issues.

I have had my V1G2 since July 1st and am now afraid I have missed the return window. I really want to like the V1 and JBV1 is great, but as you say, it is a very annoying detector when it comes to noise.

I don't know how anyone could run it without an app and even then, the beeps it makes before the App can take over kind of makes me numb to initial alerts and I worry it's gonna burn me some day.

So, I am reading this thread with high hopes of learning something!
 

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It's not the bogey lock sound is it?
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I'll keep looking through my settings but something definitely seems amiss.
Okay, maybe another setting to fine tune.
What do people here suggest, as I'm fuzzy on the definition of what these do?
My current settings...
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Okay, turned off the K Band Bogey Tone, it looks like I want all the options above on, and shut K Band bogey tone off.
But testing it, I wasn't having bogey tones, they were full blown alerts.
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Thanks @DC Fluid for this topic. I am experiencing many of the same issues.

I have had my V1G2 since July 1st and am now afraid I have missed the return window. I really want to like the V1 and JBV1 is great, but as you say, it is a very annoying detector when it comes to noise.

I don't know how anyone could run it without an app and even then, the beeps it makes before the App can take over kind of makes me numb to initial alerts and I worry it's gonna burn me some day.

So, I am reading this thread with high hopes of learning something!
If I can find perfection, I might make a thread for setup for dummies. LOL.
I'm feeling inadequate so far taming the beast.
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What's my point? I think you are on to something with the positioning of Gen 2. On the bike the RD is lower, and you are closer in the video to that CRV than I get to my wife's Odyssey.
I don't discount this, however I believe it only makes a partial difference based on drives in both vehicles.
I find I have less tolerance for beeps in the truck with the quiet environment, and then I hear everything the detector does on top of JBV1.

So I'd really like to nail a home run with this that is easy switching back and forth.
I got all the BT and audio settings dialed in, now need the same out of radar detection behaviour.
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Could a K Time Mute play into a solution, by delaying a breakthrough for a few seconds?
What setting should I use if I wanted to delay a 3 bar BSM punch through for a few seconds?
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Thanks @DC Fluid for this topic. I am experiencing many of the same issues.

I have had my V1G2 since July 1st and am now afraid I have missed the return window. I really want to like the V1 and JBV1 is great, but as you say, it is a very annoying detector when it comes to noise.

I don't know how anyone could run it without an app and even then, the beeps it makes before the App can take over kind of makes me numb to initial alerts and I worry it's gonna burn me some day.

So, I am reading this thread with high hopes of learning something!
I personally don't do much with JBV1 which quiets V1 other than auto V1. I find that V1 with KV on is quiet enough for my area. I do like logic below 60mph, which mutes low level X and K. Admittedly, I could do that with SAVVY. JBV1 however, gives me the heat map, CSA, PAWS and the alert log. I don't do a lot with JBV1 announcements and rely heavily on my V1 RAA for sound. I don't have multiple mute options activated on JBV1. I personally don't double up on features. Occasionally I do turn off Auto V1 and use Quiet Ride. To each their own. I find a lot of simplicity in the V1 algorithms so I just let V1 do its thing.
Could a K Time Mute play into a solution, by delaying a breakthrough for a few seconds?
What setting should I use if I wanted to delay a 3 bar BSM punch through for a few seconds?
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Johnboy monitors the JBV1 thread and could greatly help if these questions were posted there.
 
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I personally don't do much with JBV1 which quiets V1 other than auto V1. I find that V1 with KV on is quiet enough for my area. I do like logic below 60mph, which mutes low level X and K. Admittedly, I could do that with SAVVY. JBV1 however, gives me the heat map, CSA, PAWS and the alert log. I don't do a lot with JBV1 announcements and rely heavily on my V1 RAA for sound. I don't have multiple mute options activated on JBV1. I personally don't double up on features. Occasionally I do turn off Auto V1 and use Quiet Ride. To each their own. I find a lot of simplicity in the V1 algorithms so I just let V1 do its thing.

Johnboy monitors the JBV1 thread and could greatly help if these questions were posted there.
To clarify, I've had conversations with JB about doubling up on features. JBV1 is very capable and will handle the power user tweaking. It's just me who likes to keep it simple.
 

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The high bogey count does happen from time-to-time. It also happens (more frequently I may add) with the R7. The V1G2 is just more "vocal" about it.

Again, this is not what I experience with my R7. I don't remember any others complaining about it either, but maybe I just missed it. Obviously, it's not a widespread problem, or it would be more common knowledge.

@DC Fluid is it just the extra bogey alerts that are annoying or is it simply noisy all together? Hopefully, you can find that sweet spot that works for you.
 

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@DC Fluid, maybe it's time to use a "lifeline" and reach out to @johnboy00 since you're delving so deeply into JBV1 to try and address your issues. 🤔

We're rooting for you and learning more with you as well.
I have before, and he's been great, I sort of have threads in both forums.
But this thread in particular, though I'm heavily using JBV1 to make a work around, is about why the hell is the detector itself going ballistic?

For example, last evening going shopping after work, for 1 hour, I got 100 K Band frequency hits.
My R7 has barely over 300 lockouts in 2 years, 2 provinces, multiple cities, and it doesn't make a peep here, a BSM is rare, a couple per week of steady use.
Trying to mimic this success on the V1G2 has been trying to say the least
I can also say the R360c has become extremely well behaved, with perhaps just a few more BSM than R7.
BTW, all my other detectors are run on Highway Mode, and very well behaved.

So this thread, in some fashion, is to reach out to the V1G2 owners, and find out what I'm doing wrong, or if I got a detector on crack, or something just being missed
I want this to work, because when it does it's a powerful CM.
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@DC Fluid is it just the extra bogey alerts that are annoying or is it simply noisy all together? Hopefully, you can find that sweet spot that works for you.
Well, let me describe it.

The red arrows on the detector display are constantly going off in the city
The audio is muted for all these that fall into the Logic or Adv. logic umbrella.
But I frequently have punch throughs of door openers overwhelming Logic and Adv. Logic filtering, creating full blast alerts until it drops signal level again.
At least Silent Ride stops most of it below 50 kph.
Just this afternoon in 1 hour, 100 K frequencies logged, maybe a dozen punch through.

I have a hard time believing this detector is okay with the testimonials to how quiet it can be from so many people .

I drive this city with the R7, R360c, and DP360 on Highway Mode now 100% of the time, and are almost completely silent for days at a time.

Another thing, I've must have made near a hundred passes by the door openers in my neighborhood, and the V1G2 keeps seeing new frequencies and starting lockout of those..
This happens all over town where I was previously 100% locked out.

I'm either not getting something, or I have a defective unit, because it doesn't seem normal in any detector expectations I've had
 
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I was getting intermittent BSM punch throughs and decided to turn back on the BSM "filters" in JBV1 along with K verifier on too. Helped a lot for me but I like the detector quiet.
 

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Again, this is not what I experience with my R7. I don't remember any others complaining about it either, but maybe I just missed it. Obviously, it's not a widespread problem, or it would be more common knowledge.

@DC Fluid is it just the extra bogey alerts that are annoying or is it simply noisy all together? Hopefully, you can find that sweet spot that works for you.
If you haven't seen multiple bogey counts from the R7 when encountering single signals, then you aren't paying attention. It happens daily. The RL360C will do it as well, but not as often as the R7.
 

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I've been thinking about your experiences and part of the issue in making sense of it for me is that your experiences are noticeably different than what I'm used to.
I'm now at 65,508 miles with my Gen2 and I can't think of a time I've experienced many of the things you have.
(Sorry, I get that it's frustrating to hear that)

It makes me wonder if the FCC equivalent in Canada allows more junk signals. I know that many small features in vehicles are often different for the Canadian market. Maybe there's more than we typically aware of in the radar spectrum too?


As I recall, you bought this Gen2 from another RDF'er. Did he complain about excessive noise from it? That might support that the unit is out-of-whack somehow.

Just checking off some boxes:
(I might already know these answers, others might not)
  • The firmware is up to date? v4.1025
  • You've done a factory reset at some point after opening the box the first time?

I know that you've posted some Custom Frequencies that are very close to what other detector segments are. (Not ideal ranges in my opinion, but I understand why you are doing it and I don't know that they are impacting the falses that you are getting)

Other than the Custom Frequencies, there's only 11 possible settings for the Gen2 itself. A few of them are items such as Laser ON/OFF, Rear Laser ON/OFF, etc.
Hopefully remembering that will eliminate some frustration. :)
 

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What are your lockout settings for frequency tolerance and alert distance?

Edit: I see you listed that previously. I really hope you get this worked out.

"OK Google, how far is it from Phoenix to DC's home town?" LOL, I'd love to see how my Gen heaves up there.
 
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makes me wonder if the FCC equivalent in Canada allows more junk signals. I know that many small features in vehicles are often different for the Canadian market. Maybe there's more than we typically aware of in the radar spectrum too?
I didn't want to say it, but this is bugging me too.
Canadian standards are no where near as strict as FCC, and there is zero enforcement.
We tend to rely on products made for USA, to be the same or equivalent here, with no oversight.
Stuff slips through.
But I have no way to verify any feelings on this matter
I do know, most other cities I've been in behave similar to mine on the other detectors.
I've travelled in the States and had no issues other than 4 times the amount of LEOs. LOL

As I recall, you bought this Gen2 from another RDF'er. Did he complain about excessive noise from it? That might support that the unit is out-of-whack somehow.
I did look through post history before purchase and not one bad word.
The member was very clean and polite when discussing any CMs, so no flags there

  • The firmware is up to date? v4.1025
  • You've done a factory reset at some point after opening the box the first time?
Yes, firmware is up to date, came that way
Q: can a person force a firmware overwrite on this detector, I can't find the option to do so.

Factory Reset I believe I did, but can't remember.
I also can't remember how.
If you can post how, this will be done asap.

Your help is appreciated, I'm wanting to get out and try the recent changes, as I've had some good drives with it, but run into garbage the next day.
Baffling.
 

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Maybe someone will send you theirs to do a comparison and rule out if it’s a problem with the detector itself.

With all the accolades and testimonials of how quiet it is, it be would be helpful to rule out a defective unit before making a final decision to turf it or not.
 

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