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- Feb 10, 2021
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So will Theia detect S band?
Naaa S band is now our 2.4 gig wifi band. Hardly anyone uses X band yet even. Only seen one X band unit in the last 5 years. I use to run into one X band unit on trips to Port Clinton, Ohio. (been 5 years since a trip there to the CMP) But there is always a chance to see one out in the wild. Though a friend had / has a old S band unit that still works. ( at least the last time we fired it up.) Ok back to the main Theia subject. Take care - Be safe SpinSo will Theia detect S band?
I sold on EBay a CMI HH Magnum xband to a small village police dept 20 years ago. Chief wanted a simple no thrills radar gun for back up. I think it was Ashley?? Some village that started with "A"!!!"I think you are seeing the final days of X band in detectors."
If this happens - it will be the second 'police radar band' that has disappeared during my 'detector' days. The first would have been the S band. Which today is our 2.4 gig wifi band. I kind of miss the old X band days. Most modern detectors would give a warning for miles of the CMI Magnum being used north by a village north of me.
(There isn't much if any use of X band around here. There is still one old CMI Magnum in our county. Only comes out to be recertified once a year. It's the back up for a local village. Guessing it will be fully retired when the old Police Chief retires.)
So you want X eliminated from a new RD, creating the need for another new RD which is sold at cost? Not gonna happen.Idea: How difficult would it be to manufacture a small, simple X-band only Radar Detector? Product name: "X gap". No need for sophisticated signal-processing. No false alerts from Blind Spot Monitoring systems operating in the K-Band.
X-gap by Radenso. Could be inexpensive to manufacture with a "patch antenna". It should be light and small. Even a conventional horn/microstrip antenna design would be tiny. With a single microstrip--in the horn antenna assembly--stealth should be doable.
Remember the Uniden 9XL? Smaller than the Radenso Pro M.
Width (2.25")-(Pro M 2.44") -- Length (3.5")-(Pro M 3.6") -- Height (0.75")-(Pro M 1.3")
X-gap would not be heavily promoted. The branding would feature "X-gap" prominently with "by Radenso" in small script.
Price: $199.00 or less. Not a big seller but the cost of manufacture would be offset
Back in 2003 I knew a small dept in Utah which annually sent their X gun for recalibration. I'm sure it's gone now, but it wouldn't surprise me if other departments do the same. I'm old school, X is active on my RDs. Signals are usually weak and short. I'll pay attention to a lingering alert. I'm ok with it.Yep, eliminate X-band and Leo lines up for their shift, okay boys lets bring out those old guns and we'll have donutfest out there today.
Back in 2003 I knew a small dept in Utah which annually sent their X gun for recalibration. I'm sure it's gone now, but it wouldn't surprise me if other departments do the same. I'm old school, X is active on my RDs. Signals are usually weak and short. I'll pay attention to a lingering alert. I'm ok with it.
Radenso Theia will be superior in its form-factor (physical stealth) if it does not include detection of X-band police radars. The 10.525 GHz frequency radars are "virtually" obsolete.
No, they don’t, but I think we’ve learned to expect that kind of thing from you. Only a small subsection of then encounter X-band ever, and a tiny fraction “frequently” encounter it. It may not yet be gone entirely, but it’s by no means ubiquitous.The roughly 21 million inhabitants of NJ and OH might disagree. They frequently face X.
I realize you’ve managed to evade a vendor tag of your own so far, but you’ve spent so much of your career here trolling Radenso.don't you think its just a wee bit speculative to say that it is much more than vaporware? Moreover, IMHO, suggesting that it will be "superior" is, at this juncture, wishful thinking.
Yes. We don’t have any problem there. The thinking behind leaving off X-band in some theoretical future model is to allow for a unit (whether mounted remotely or to the windshield) to be far smaller and and much better optimized for K and Ka while also being simpler and cheaper.Besides, if its as smart as all of the hype, it should be able to recognize real X radar from all of the X noise, right?
No, they don’t, but I think we’ve learned to expect that kind of thing from you.
Just submit to the cult and he will.So much hate and intolerance.
The notion that NJ and OH drivers don't face X is just ignoring the facts. X is a threat in NJ and OH. To ignore it is just asking for trouble. Ignoring may be your prerogative, but please, don't be spreading mis-information. Here is a verified post from @Mushin as of 2020. (I guess you know more than he does).
2020-02-14 Verified Ka4 in NY per @samq45. 2020-01-23 Add Common X Band for NJ, OH. 2020-01-23 Add Ka6 to MN per @Biohazardous 2020-01-23 Add Ka7 to NY per @samq45 2019-08-30 Dropped Ka Band & LIDAR usage from PA per @LeftLaneInPA 2019-08-30 Added Ka6 to CT per @NorEaster18 2019-08-30 Add CA...www.rdforum.org
Oh....and I guess this source must also be wrong:
Oh, and I guess this report from @ALS is also wrong:
"Ohio is still using X Band because I saw a OSP nail a Civic two weeks ago using X band. If you run I-70 you'll see lots of X Band used by OSP."
I guess you know more than everybody else. My goodness. Go hate on someone else. You just look foolish.
Can't attest to ohio, but not sure you've driven the NJTPK much, with this statementYou’re dramatically overestimating the “A LOT” part. There are occasional whispers of unicorns with only one or two people who actually claim any kind of regularity of X-band encounters.
i don't understand the controversy as well, and i'm sure X will eventually go away. but i do think it's obvious why there wouldn't be flak over a rear X antenna being dropped, as that's just about arrows, and not about being totally blind to X.I don't really see what the controversy is here. If people want a detector that detects all bands, they will buy one that detects all bands. There are plenty of good detectors that do that, and Theia was designed to detect X band so this thread could have been answered and over with in the first few posts.
Likewise, if people want a detector that excels in KA and K band in a very powerful way at the expense of X band, they can buy that detector. I have zero doubt future flagship detectors from Escort will take this route - they already started this with the rear horn on the Redline 360C dropping X band support and they got ZERO FLAK OR COMPLAINTS. That was a test, and a successful one since the community allowed it without kicking and screaming. Once one company drops it, everyone else will likely have to follow suit with a similar model to remain competitive - the difference in performance and price is that large. But it's not like that will be the only detector companies sell...there are plenty of choices out there.
Nobody is forcing anything on anyone here, so arguing about it is just kind of shouting into the void.
I never want to hate on something that in all honesty, i could end up owning and loving...but i have to agree with this statement. and honestly to think that ANY detector is not going to false, and has no need for gps lockouts etc etc... ummmmGiven that Theia was introduced on November 5, 2019, some 18 months ago,
and is still has no firm release date, don't you think its just a wee bit speculative to say that it is much more than vaporware? Moreover, IMHO, suggesting that it will be "superior" is, at this juncture, wishful thinking. But we can all wish...right?
Besides, if its as smart as all of the hype, it should be able to recognize real X radar from all of the X noise, right?
I never want to hate on something that in all honesty, i could end up owning and loving...but i have to agree with this statement. and honestly to think that ANY detector is not going to false, and has no need for gps lockouts etc etc... ummmm
Because even multimillion dollar radar installations occasionally false? There's no possible way to claim 100 percent no-false, and I don't think I'd want one because its parameters would be so tight that it would likely miss a lot of legitimate signals in order to prevent falsing. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not going to be concerned about the very occasional false signal so long as the great, vast majority of them are eliminated.Can you explain why you think that’s so crazy?