Does Radenso Theia support X Band?

Radenso Theia should eliminate detection of X-band police radars in its specifications.

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Radenso Theia is going to be superior in every way to other (conventional) Radar Detectors.

Radenso Theia will be superior in its form-factor (physical stealth) if it does not include detection of X-band police radars. The 10.525 GHz frequency radars are "virtually" obsolete. The only model now manufactured in the USA is the MPH Industries Python III (moving radar). It has the lowest specifications of the MPH moving radar models. There are K and Ka versions of this "snakey" radar.

Honestly, X-band is of little consequence for US Radar Detector manufacturers. It's only included in a Radar/Laser Detector to achieve "full coverage".

It's interesting to note that the premium-model Escort Redline 360c does not include X-band in its rear-facing antenna. This is significant. No "arrows" for X-band alerts. The only X-band police radar now being manufactured is a moving model: MPH Python III. Escort must believe there is very little chance of their average customer being targeted by any X-band moving radar from behind--and not detecting it before a speed-reading is made. Of course, the front X-band antenna is sensitive enough to detect the Python III and other X-band moving radars through signal reflection.

Consider how many US radar detector users have X-band turned ON with their Valentine, Escort, Uniden, Cobra, Radenso? Hardly any!

What would be the consequences of Radenso Theia not including X-band in its detection specifications? Practically NIL.

Would radar gun manufacturers start producing new X-band radars just to outwit users of one high-end, relatively low-volume Radar Detector? Almost certainly: No!

Would all other Radar Detector manufacturers follow Radenso's lead? Unlikely.

Idea: How difficult would it be to manufacture a small, simple X-band only Radar Detector? Product name: "X gap". No need for sophisticated signal-processing. No false alerts from Blind Spot Monitoring systems operating in the K-Band.

X-gap by Radenso. Could be inexpensive to manufacture with a "patch antenna". It should be light and small. Even a conventional horn/microstrip antenna design would be tiny. With a single microstrip--in the horn antenna assembly--stealth should be doable.

Remember the Uniden 9XL? Smaller than the Radenso Pro M.
Width (2.25")-(Pro M 2.44") -- Length (3.5")-(Pro M 3.6") -- Height (0.75")-(Pro M 1.3")

X-gap would not be heavily promoted. The branding would feature "X-gap" prominently with "by Radenso" in small script.
Price: $199.00 or less. Not a big seller but the cost of manufacture would be offset by increased sales of Theia. I'm on the list to purchase Theia mainly to detect the Redflex Speed Cameras (AGD340) in my area. In jurisdictions with "anti-detector" laws, a portable radar detector with physical stealth is essential. Radenso Pro M is just right for low-profile installations but does not detect the Redflex-AGD340. With Theia, I can achieve a concealed installation but will not be able to see the display. An eventual Theia Android Phone-app will fix that. Better still to have a Theia with relatively small dimensions.

I'm looking forward to Jon's (Radenso CEO) opinion without any firm commitment to this product idea.
 

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X band is still a threat to many drivers in Ohio and New Jersey, and every once in a while someone from another state finds an X band unicorn (@hiddencam found one in Louisiana, for example). Plus, some of our friends in Europe like @skd still face a lot of X band radar.

I think omitting X band would be a foolish decision.
 

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Theia won’t just be a North America specific detector.
I think they have bigger plans. Just as Randy said, X will be available, and I’m sure it’ll be able to sweep others like Ku or what ever else they want to train it to.
That’s just a guess.
 

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If the detector never falses (as Theia has been claimed to do by Radenso) then what exactly is the problem with including X band?
Larger form-factor than it would be if X-band was excluded.
 

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How can you make this thread and not have searched at the states using X band to this day??? NJ and OH use X band A LOT
 

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How can you make this thread and not have searched at the states using X band to this day??? NJ and OH use X band A LOT
Those 2 states are the "outliers". It's a big country, the good ol' USA. Only "2" out of the "48" are backward enough to stick with "X". Forget Alaska and Hawaii, they're not contiguous. That's why I proposed ditching the 10.525 GHz frequency on Theia and offering an inexpensive X-band only device for those who drive in Jersey and the Buckeye State.

I'm not against those great states. My favorite US musical group from the sixties "The 4 Seasons" came from the Garden State. Frank Sinatra was born in Hoboken NJ. The great Jack Nicklaus (18 major Golf tournaments) hails from Columbus OH. Nevertheless, NJ and OH are the obsolete police radar holdouts. I'm also sour on Kentucky where the X-factor MPH Industries make their sneaky-snake Python X-band radars.

My favorite State? Illinois: that's where Raquel Welch was born (Jo Raquel Tejada). Hillary Clinton too: but hey no state's perfect. Get my drift?
 

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Exactly, The Four Seasons, X Band, K Band, Ka Band, Laser.
There yeah go, all settled.
 

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Unfortunately, as Randy said it detects X band. If a radar detector didn't detect X band, it would be MUCH better at K and KA band believe it or not. But I know people would complain about it, so we are shipping it with X band.
 

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I can imagine the conversation after getting pulled over.
"You're using X-band, you can't pull me over. That's antiquated technology"

Dismissing a band that is still being used doesn't make you immune to that band.

How about having the option of turning off X-band? I bet that would help those who do not want it.
 

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I can imagine the conversation after getting pulled over.
"You're using X-band, you can't pull me over. That's antiquated technology"

Dismissing a band that is still being used doesn't make you immune to that band.
Way more people get mrct tickets in the USA than x band. In fact, more people get mobile camera tickets than x band. But people are comfortable buying a detector with no mrct.
 

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How about having the option of turning off X-band? I bet that would help those who do not want it.

All of our current detectors already have this option for all bands.
 

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Way more people get mrct tickets in the USA than x band. In fact, more people get mobile camera tickets than x band. But people are comfortable buying a detector with no mrct.
I'm one who doesn't scan for MRCx. As far as I know, there is none in my area, but recognize that it may be a threat in the future. So, I appreciate that the detection capability exists in several detectors if I need it.
 

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All of our current detectors already have this option for all bands.
I'm glad it exists for people who want it.
Remember there was talk of disabling K band in states that were moving over to Ka band? Then the state started moving back to K band?

I forget the thread that had this conversation, but I keep it in mind.
Better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.
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Disabling x band would not increase performance. The whole design of the detector would be different and optimized for k and ka without it.
I did not realize that. I learn something new every other day.
 

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Are we sure that MPH is still making the X band Python? I thought it had been discontinued.
 

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Actually, MPH discontinued production of the Python III in X-Band some time ago. The band is now officially out of production.

Being in New York, I’d opt for a detector without X-Band reception as it’s the first thing I do with any new detector.....turn it off.

But......so long as Theia can truly weed out all the X- Band falses, I think it’s a good idea for the flagship to cover all bands. Maybe something to consider for another model though. If Ka and K could be optimized even more without the longwave reception, it would be a hard pass for me. I just might need both.:)
 
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