Very disappointed from Redline360c international

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Hello, after receiving my Redline360c international in Bulgaria where I live I started the tests. Various radars are used here, the most common currently being the Cordon M operating in the K band 24,150 and the ARH CAM-S1, which is a radar with laser detection, as well as older radars operating in the X band. These are the most common radars here. The performance of the Redline360c against radar in the X band is good with detection between 1,300-3,300 km. distance. The performance against the Russian Cordon M is more than desperate, he does not react to it in any way, passing him with his face facing the car, there is absolutely no reaction. The Redline360c doesn't make any sound, it just doesn't notice it. I tried with all possible settings, but the result is deplorable. I made over ten passes along such radars and never once decided to signal in any way. I was also impressed that he did not react to the Hungarian infirmary radar ARH CAM-S1 again aimed directly at him again without any reaction from Redline360c, I passed him 8 times when I changed his position again, they directed him low down, but he did not react to no way. I expected him to inform me at least when I was in front of him, but that didn't happen. I am aware that the laser radars are not detected from afar, but at least when it is in front of the car at 5-10 meters I expected it to alert me. In the end I was extremely disappointed with Redline360c international, I thought I was getting the best on the market, but it turned out that there were serious flaws. An interesting fact is that the previous model designed for Europe Redline EX detects from a long distance the Russian Cordon M, as well as responds to the Hungarian laser system ARH CAM-S1. As a matter of fact, they wrote to the support team and he replied that they did not know why he did not detect them. I sent them more messages with a video of how the Redline360c performs, but that doesn't help me in any way because obviously they can't do anything about it. Today, after my next e-mail, I received the following answer: Hi Svetoslav,

We are trying to get our hands on a cordon radar to do development on as soon as possible, though resources are a little scarce at this time.
 

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The US version is pretty disappointing too. I expected that thing to blow me away, but instead it kind of blew.

In efforts to quiet these things down against false positive, unfortunately the K alert (and possibly actual detection) are basically neutered.

These are just my opinions, anyway. And I have only been using detectors for about 10 or 15 years, owned almost every brand, and drove almost 100k miles a year until about 5 years ago, (now only 20-30k a year). Not a lot by comparison of a lot of the members here.
 

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Hello, after receiving my Redline360c international in Bulgaria where I live I started the tests. Various radars are used here, the most common currently being the Cordon M operating in the K band 24,150 and the ARH CAM-S1, which is a radar with laser detection, as well as older radars operating in the X band. These are the most common radars here. The performance of the Redline360c against radar in the X band is good with detection between 1,300-3,300 km. distance. The performance against the Russian Cordon M is more than desperate, he does not react to it in any way, passing him with his face facing the car, there is absolutely no reaction. The Redline360c doesn't make any sound, it just doesn't notice it. I tried with all possible settings, but the result is deplorable. I made over ten passes along such radars and never once decided to signal in any way. I was also impressed that he did not react to the Hungarian infirmary radar ARH CAM-S1 again aimed directly at him again without any reaction from Redline360c, I passed him 8 times when I changed his position again, they directed him low down, but he did not react to no way. I expected him to inform me at least when I was in front of him, but that didn't happen. I am aware that the laser radars are not detected from afar, but at least when it is in front of the car at 5-10 meters I expected it to alert me. In the end I was extremely disappointed with Redline360c international, I thought I was getting the best on the market, but it turned out that there were serious flaws. An interesting fact is that the previous model designed for Europe Redline EX detects from a long distance the Russian Cordon M, as well as responds to the Hungarian laser system ARH CAM-S1. As a matter of fact, they wrote to the support team and he replied that they did not know why he did not detect them. I sent them more messages with a video of how the Redline360c performs, but that doesn't help me in any way because obviously they can't do anything about it. Today, after my next e-mail, I received the following answer: Hi Svetoslav,

We are trying to get our hands on a cordon radar to do development on as soon as possible, though resources are a little scarce at this time.
Hi Presledvac,
I waited your first impressions.
For sure you've read my tests I made in France starting from the same day since I received it.
I have a Genevo One M and Uniden R1 to compare with Escort 360C international.
So my firsts impression are mitigates.
I appreciate the arrows even if sometimes I have a K band alert but front arrows only blink.
No side or rear arrows transition when meet the source.
Why?
I don't know.
Escort is silent but I had some Multaradar or Gatso falses.
Here we have Gatso radars and falses on G4 are not welcomed.
For K band speed signs the range is very good (more than 1 Km but they are speeds signs so the detection is useless).
Mesta 210C radars are low K band radars.
They are present here in fixed and mobile speed control spots.
Unident alert at about 300 meters.
Genevo half of this distance.
Escort 360C international not at all.
Just yesterday I meet a Mesta 210C in a fixed spot.
Highway settings.
K1 and K2 band enabled.
Nothing at all.
I'm very disappointed.
I have to admit that for Mesta Fusion the detection front facing is at 470 meters.
Not bad but yesterday I meet a Mesta Fusion and it was front facing.
No alert. Nothing.
Was the radar out of order?
I hope so and I really hope that Escort will make more substantial progress in this version that they are proud to sell as international.
No gatso encounter till now (yesterday a brief alert but was it a false?) and I hope it will work as it should.
Otherwise 800 euro thrown out of the windows .....
 

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The US version is pretty disappointing too. I expected that thing to blow me away, but instead it kind of blew.

In efforts to quiet these things down against false positive, unfortunately the K alert (and possibly actual detection) are basically neutered.

These are just my opinions, anyway. And I have only been using detectors for about 10 or 15 years, owned almost every brand, and drove almost 100k miles a year until about 5 years ago, (now only 20-30k a year). Not a lot by comparison of a lot of the members here.
Woah woah woah; 100k/yr?! what do you do... And I thought my 25k/yr mileage was bad...
but you know what they say about escort; stay away
 

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I love my RL360’s. Was expecting to actually hate them and send them back to Best Buy. Like it did with my Max 3’s. But wow. The range blows me away. Better than all my R7’s. And it doesn’t switch K to Ka like the max3’s did!!
 

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I'm thinking of giving it back, that's the worst € 800 spent. Now I passed the radar twice again and RL360c did not call even once, but I literally went 40 km. on a straight section without cars with direct visibility to the radar, I passed literally 1 meter from it and nothing, complete silence. The police officers stood there and watched with satisfaction. The Cordon M in question is used not only here in Bulgaria, but also in the whole of Russia, and they are a huge market. The previous model Redline EX captures it and reacts from a great distance, but with the IVT filter turned off. Here I tried everything and nothing, complete silence. Sounds tragic because, cheap detectors detect it from a great distance, and my expensive, new and modern detector is mute.
 

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hm, I remember chatting with @Nagumich about this and he told me that in Russia, he also hadn't had the best experience with Escort radar detectors. I'd imagine the same would be true for you in Bulgaria.
 

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hm, I remember chatting with @Nagumich about this and he told me that in Russia, he also hadn't had the best experience with Escort radar detectors. I'd imagine the same would be true for you in Bulgaria.
The most interesting thing is that there should be no problem with detecting it and notifying it early, and in fact this does not happen at all, it does not even make a sound. At the same time, when Auto learn is off, it notifies with false signals in this range in which the Cordon M - K band 24,150 works. In my opinion, it should not be a problem to fix this problem in an update if they wish. I think that they are also interested in this happening, because it will provide them with many potential customers both in Bulgaria and in Russia and any other country that uses it.
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As I added before, the previous model Redline EX detects it and notifies about it but with the IVT filter turned off. I keep thinking that they could put it in the software and respond to it specifically. It could be the best on the market with very little effort.
 
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Which bands did you select?
 

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Reading this stuff makes me grateful that my R1 and DP360 detect like champs at a nominal price. I can't imagine buying all that high dollar junk just to have it NOT WORK!
 

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K1 and K2, X band and Laser
I have tried all sorts of combinations too, turning different frequencies on and off, but to no avail.
I think that your, our redline, is able to detect it but it filter the signal as blind spot or speedsign.
Trying to eliminate the false alerts it filter off the good ones.
In my experiences why Uniden R1 can detect Mesta 210C and Escort would not?
Escort should tune this detector in a better way.
To add the word "International" to a detector just because of it can be sent and sell in Europe or abroad other than U.S.A. without having tested it in these countries is useless.
With users like us having tested it in our country and being disappointed Escort will not gain in popularity....
 

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I think that your, our redline, is able to detect it but it filter the signal as blind spot or speedsign.
Trying to eliminate the false alerts it filter off the good ones.
In my experiences why Uniden R1 can detect Mesta 210C and Escort would not?
Escort should tune this detector in a better way.
To add the word "International" to a detector just because of it can be sent and sell in Europe or abroad other than U.S.A. without having tested it in these countries is useless.
With users like us having tested it in our country and being disappointed Escort will not gain in popularity....
I also think it filters it, but I cleared its database, turned off Auto learn, turned off the GPS filter, but it is silent again. And at the same time it notifies me of speed signs everywhere, and gives me fakes in this range in which the Cordon M works, and does not in any way detect the Hungarian ARH CAM-S1, even if I put the radar directly against it, at the same level and outside the car, still does not respond. This is a very bad advertisement for Escort. However, it costs € 800, this is an expensive detector. All this accompanied by the fact that they can not guarantee in any way that they will eliminate the problem! I hope that all this is read by Escort employees (Cedar electronics) and that they do something about it, because otherwise they risk losing many, many customers. They could at least come up with an official announcement that they are working on the issue and will eliminate it as soon as possible, which would give their clients hope!
 

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I also think it filters it, but I cleared its database, turned off Auto learn, turned off the GPS filter, but it is silent again. And at the same time it notifies me of speed signs everywhere, and gives me fakes in this range in which the Cordon M works, and does not in any way detect the Hungarian ARH CAM-S1, even if I put the radar directly against it, at the same level and outside the car, still does not respond. This is a very bad advertisement for Escort. However, it costs € 800, this is an expensive detector. All this accompanied by the fact that they can not guarantee in any way that they will eliminate the problem! I hope that all this is read by Escort employees (Cedar electronics) and that they do something about it, because otherwise they risk losing many, many customers. They could at least come up with an official announcement that they are working on the issue and will eliminate it as soon as possible, which would give their clients hope!
You put the detector even outside your car?
You're lucky.
Maybe in your country the police isn't so severe against holding a RD.
Here in France it's risky.
That's strange that Redline don't alert vs ARH cam.
It's a laser and even if the range will not be so great it should detect it.
I'll try vs Vitronic Poliscan if I'll meet one.
It's a laser beam and my Genevo one M was able to alert to it at a short distance (about 100 meters) and front facing only.
I've wrote an email to Cedar let them know the issues with redline.
I hope they will react soon because of this forum is followed by European users too and the experiences we share will make up their mind about to buy or not this RD.
 

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I also think it filters it, but I cleared its database, turned off Auto learn, turned off the GPS filter, but it is silent again. And at the same time it notifies me of speed signs everywhere, and gives me fakes in this range in which the Cordon M works, and does not in any way detect the Hungarian ARH CAM-S1, even if I put the radar directly against it, at the same level and outside the car, still does not respond. This is a very bad advertisement for Escort. However, it costs € 800, this is an expensive detector. All this accompanied by the fact that they can not guarantee in any way that they will eliminate the problem! I hope that all this is read by Escort employees (Cedar electronics) and that they do something about it, because otherwise they risk losing many, many customers. They could at least come up with an official announcement that they are working on the issue and will eliminate it as soon as possible, which would give their clients hope!
Here in Bulgaria the detectors are allowed. There is no problem to use them, as long as they do not disturb and disturb the police.
 

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@presledvach I am with Max360c and met only once Cordon M. It was not in my direction and after pass it there was Gatso indicated alert at 24.155ghz on the rear antenna. Now, I am still not sure if it was really from the Cordon or some false alert , as I didn't have other encounters, but there were only few old other cars in the non populated area and never had another Gatso false on the same place , when the coppers were not there....????? I will report again next time, but, there is real possibility mine will not react to Cordon too. This is total shame for Escort, calling these detectors " international "- RL360c !!! If somebody from Escort is reading: Obviously the detectors are filtering legit police frequency in the case of Cordon M here.Guys, do some software updates and as soon as possible, because you will loose a lot of customers here. I can guarantee this ! ;)
 

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