Redline 360C international firsts impressions

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Yes. You should see a little better MRCD detection ranges with TSF off.

For MRCT….. I haven’t found any of the detectors that reliable. Not from any manufacture…. and I do have pretty much all of them.

Now Gatso from the Mesta Fusion.

With the R3….. even with TSF off… it wasn’t that good. More often than not, it was either a miss…. Or an alert while your in the kill zone. If you turned TSF on….. it was pretty much blind to it.

You might get a short alert… maybe 10 meters…. 2 out of 10 times with TSF off.

The R7….. it was much better. Not a huge alert distance, but at least it would catch it 7 out of 10 times with TSF off. 60 or 70 meters? Again… TSF pretty much killed it’s Gatso detection.

Just remember…. The Uniden’s will call it MRCD no matter what type of modulated radar it is.

You might not be able to see them, but I did a few tests with different detectors against the Mesta Fusion in the testing section.

You can also see a few years of MRCD testing with various detectors there too.

If I ever find a detector that’s good at MRCT, I’ll test it…. But so far, none are worth my time testing.
Hi Heywood,
Yesterday I've tested my R3 and Redline vs Mesta Fusion.
K band was on and K filter off.
Mesta Fusion was front facing my car.
It was installed just after a bend so difficult to get.
My R3 alerted with a K band at 24.080.
Quite the same range than my Redline showing G4 at 24.155.
Driving facing forward the Mesta Fusion I had the same situation.
A bend and the Mesta in the opposite site of the road.
No detection until I've passed it.
The R3 went off at K band alert 24.080 keeping the signal for about 80 meters and after letting him drop .
Redline got the same distance range.
Just one run I've got a G4 alert of the Redline at 1.200 meters before meeting the radar facing forward.
The alert lasted some seconds and I was not able to have it again it the other 3 runs.
In any case I was wandered about the range.
A scattered signal? May be.
Mesta fusion are pretty the same in France and in Canada.
I don't know why in your country the R3 didn't alert to it and R7 see it as MRCD.
Here R1 detect it with a K band alert.
It is true that I haven't updated anymore my R3.
With a firmware update maybe I'll have a MRCD alert.
Next time.I'll try the R3 with another Mesta Fusion standing in a better position in the middle of a rectilinear road.
 

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I should be more clear.

The R3 can see it as long as you have TSF off..... not all the time...... and sometimes after you've passed it (Kill Zone)

Count yourself lucky to get an alert before you pass the camera.

Here's the test results from April 2020

 

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I should be more clear.

The R3 can see it as long as you have TSF off..... not all the time...... and sometimes after you've passed it (Kill Zone)

Count yourself lucky to get an alert before you pass the camera.

Here's the test results from April 2020

Thanks Heywood.
Last test today.
Same Mesta fusion in a straight road.
R1 get it as K band at 24.082 some meters before the radar forward facing.
It kept the signal for about 400 meters.
Front facing the detection was better 500 meters before the Mesta Fusion.
Growing up signal strength at 24.082 K band.
For Redline it went off 1 in 3 runs once passed the Mesta Fusion facing forward.
The other 2 runs no alert at all no matter the speed of my car.
Front facing it alerted at 475 meters before de radar.
G4 Alert.
Variable frequency in a range of 24.135 and 24.155.
A little better results with Genevo K filter off and in vertical position.
Now why the rear detection of the Redline was only 1 time of 3 ?
No answer.
Last test Redline international vs Parifex Falco.
K band low power radar CW.
Redline get it at 1.300 meters in a straight road Front facing.
First alert K band 24.129 than it stopped.
Some second later another K band alert growing up.
Coming back the radar was in the opposite road off axis.
It is a double source radar (front and rear).
It shot photos in approaching and in leaving it.
Redline alerted at less than 200 meters and keep the signal with the rear antenna for about 600 meters.
Summing up for Parifex Falco if the radar is front facing your car and you drive in a straight road the detection is very good at 1.300 meters with Redline International360C.
 

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Received the Escort Redline 360c international last weekend, and want it to compare it to my Stinger VIP (with HD antenna).

In my country we have three threats: The MultaRadarCT from Jenoptik Robot (fixed at the side of the road (sometimes) combined with red light enforcement), built in cars, or on tripod. We also have the Gatso RT3, but by this far only fixed at the side of the road, mostly at traffic signs, combined with red light enforcement. So Gatso RT3 is also covered by the defender database. Furthermore police is very active with laser.

Therefore I've only activated MRCT, Gatso band and laser.

My first impressions this week (compared to the Stinger VIP): It is very silent, (almost) no falses, onto now I had two falses on Gatso RT4 (G4). No falses on MRCT. Stinger doesn't alert to Gatso so it also doens't false on Gatso, but Stinger had two falses on MRCT while the Redline kept quiet.

Small bug: I had some "falses" on 23.861 ghz, although I didn't activate the normal K-band or the segmented K-bands. It appears that in the Escort app the segmented "K band 5" isn't included, so when I had a look in the menu of the Redline itself K-band 5 was activated, and that couses the "falses" on 23.861. So I switched K-band 5 off in the menu from the detector.

Detection: On MRCT: Onetime it was equal to the Stinger VIP (but that is in situations where the detection is was very hard because off curves in the road, so both detectors saw the radar a bit late (kind of instant-on effect)
But most of the times the Escort Redline 360C Intl outperforms the Stinger VIP (by far).

Detection on Gatso RT3: not as good as MRCT, but I understand that work is in progress to increase detection on Gatso because there are models of Escort that do a better job in detecting it, so Escort is capable of detecting it. At he moment for my country no problem because al Gatso RT3 are in the defender database, to compare it with the Stinger: Stinger doesn't detect it at all because they use the Stinger spotlist for it.

I am posting my encounters on youtube, recorded with my dashcam. So two ramp-ups, most of the time the first one by the Escort Redline 360c Intl, followed by the Stinger Vip. If you want to keep track just subscribe to my youtube channel.

One example on a fixed MRCT I encountered yesterday:


 
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Received the Escort Redline 360c international last weekend, and want it to compare it to my Stinger VIP (with HD antenna).

In my country we have three threats: The MultaRadarCT from Jenoptik Robot (fixed at the side of the road (sometimes) combined with red light enforcement), built in cars, or on tripod. We also have the Gatso RT3, but by this far only fixed at the side of the road, mostly at traffic signs, combined with red light enforcement. So Gatso RT3 is also covered by the defender database. Furthermore police is very active with laser.

Therefore I've only activated MRCT, Gatso band and laser.

My first impressions this week (compared to the Stinger VIP): It is very silent, (almost) no falses, onto now I had two falses on Gatso RT4 (G4). No falses on MRCT. Stinger doesn't alert to Gatso so it also doens't false on Gatso, but Stinger had two falses on MRCT while the Redline kept quiet.

Small bug: I had some "falses" on 23.861 ghz, although I didn't activate the normal K-band or the segmented K-bands. It appears that in the Escort app the segmented "K band 5" isn't included, so when I had a look in the menu of the Redline itself K-band 5 was activated, and that couses the "falses" on 23.861. So I switched K-band 5 off in the menu from the detector.

Detection: On MRCT: Onetime it was equal to the Stinger VIP (but that is in situations where the detection is was very hard because off curves in the road, so both detectors saw the radar a bit late (kind of instant-on effect)
But most of the times the Escort Redline 360C Intl outperforms the Stinger VIP (by far).

Detection on Gatso RT3: not as good as MRCT, but I understand that work is in progress to increase detection on Gatso because there are models of Escort that do a better job in detecting it, so Escort is capable of detecting it. At he moment for my country no problem because al Gatso RT3 are in the defender database, to compare it with the Stinger: Stinger doesn't detect it at all because they use the Stinger spotlist for it.

I am posting my encounters on youtube, recorded with my dashcam. So two ramp-ups, most of the time the first one by the Escort Redline 360c Intl, followed by the Stinger Vip. If you want to keep track just subscribe to my youtube channel.

One example on a fixed MRCT I encountered yesterday:


Hi Harold,
Thanks for yours first impressions.
It is interesting to Know that Redline 360C international is better than Stinger Vip.
Here in Europe were we live Stinger was the Reference.
It is built in Europe (in your country), it is a fixed radar detector system with is plate and Military antenna but very expensive at same time.
Your experience with both RD is very useful and I'm happy to have chosen the Redline.
I'm interested with the performances of the Redline vs Gatso Radars.
Here in France we have RT2 gatso mobile radars so I really hope it will have a good detection.
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Hi Harold,
Thanks for yours first impressions.
It is interesting to Know that Redline 360C international is better than Stinger Vip.
Here in Europe were we live Stinger was the Reference.
It is built in Europe (in your country), it is a fixed radar detector system with is plate and Military antenna but very expensive at same time.
Your experience with both RD is very useful and I'm happy to have chosen the Redline.
I'm interested with the performances of the Redline vs Gatso Radars.
Here in France we have RT2 gatso mobile radars so I really hope it will have a good detection.
I have seen the detection range of Redline 360C international vs Gatso RT3 front facing in your video.
Effectively the range is not so great and the radar was front facing.
You were in auto mode or Highway mode and the alert was G4 or G3?
Did you remember the frequency ?
 
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On MRCT i'm really impressed sofar.
I do really agree with you.
It outperform Stiger Vip .
Have you notice if the frequency of this radars are the same (Redline and Stinger Vip)?
It will be interesting to Know the model of these MRCT.
Are they low powered?
And last question what about arrows?
Stinger show the direction of the radar source and Redline blink all arrows at the same time ?
 

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The R360C fires off all arrows. Just like a laser hit.

Also in the antenna… it only seems to register on the front antenna only. Once your past the threat… it still only shows the hit on the front antenna.
 

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And last question what about arrows?

Arrows do not work on MRCT, they all blink at the same time, just as Heywood mentioned. I tried it on K-band, and they work on K-band.

Have you notice if the frequency of this radars are the same (Redline and Stinger Vip)?

I think frequency is almost the same as the VIP.
Are they low powered?

Yes, MRCT from robot is a low powered radar.
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it only seems to register on the front antenna only

It seems that the rear antenna does work on MRCT, because when I pass the radar that shoots from the rear it keeps on alerting, so I asume the rear antenna is picking up that signal. Only you can't see it at the arrows.
 
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Hello, after receiving my Redline360c international in Bulgaria where I live I started the tests. Various radars are used here, the most common currently being the Cordon M operating in the K band 24,150 and the ARH CAM-S1, which is a radar with laser detection, as well as older radars operating in the X band. These are the most common radars here. The performance of the Redline360c against radar in the X band is good with detection between 1,300-3,300 km. distance. The performance against the Russian Cordon M is more than desperate, he does not react to it in any way, passing him with his face facing the car, there is absolutely no reaction. The Redline360c doesn't make any sound, it just doesn't notice it. I tried with all possible settings, but the result is deplorable. I made over ten passes along such radars and never once decided to signal in any way. I was also impressed that he did not react to the Hungarian infirmary radar ARH CAM-S1 again aimed directly at him again without any reaction from Redline360c, I passed him 8 times when I changed his position again, they directed him low down, but he did not react to no way. I expected him to inform me at least when I was in front of him, but that didn't happen. I am aware that the laser radars are not detected from afar, but at least when it is in front of the car at 5-10 meters I expected it to alert me. In the end I was extremely disappointed with Redline360c international, I thought I was getting the best on the market, but it turned out that there were serious flaws. An interesting fact is that the previous model designed for Europe Redline EX detects from a long distance the Russian Cordon M, as well as responds to the Hungarian laser system ARH CAM-S1. As a matter of fact, they wrote to the support team and he replied that they did not know why he did not detect them. I sent them more messages with a video of how the Redline360c performs, but that doesn't help me in any way because obviously they can't do anything about it. Today, after my next e-mail, I received the following answer: Hi Svetoslav,

We are trying to get our hands on a cordon radar to do development on as soon as possible, though resources are a little scarce at this time.
 

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Nice performances for MRCD that's true but for Gatso Radar Genevo One M outperform it easily and for Mesta 210C no alert at all.
So Escort have to make a lot of efforts for these radars.......
will this RD go below 24.00 GHz?
 

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will this RD go below 24.00 GHz?
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Genevo One M K Wide 23.075 to 24.275 according to website specs.
Seems off by .025 to NA versions.?
 

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Look at the strength bar. The arrows all fire…. But if you look at the strength bar…. It never changed to the rear antenna.

Thanks for sharing
 

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I am also disappointed with the work of redline 360c int in Bulgaria and especially against Cordon M. Shame on the escort. I thought it was the best brand for radar detectors, but it turned out to be the worst, but at the expense of the most expensive.
 

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I am also disappointed with the work of redline 360c int in Bulgaria and especially against Cordon M. Shame on the escort. I thought it was the best brand for radar detectors, but it turned out to be the worst, but at the expense of the most expensive.
Cordon M as I see on internet, is a K band Radar and it can be used in stationary or mobile speed control spots.
It is detected by low-cost radar detectors as the Cobra RAD 450 that costs 170 euros
So a new and "prestigious" detector as Redline 360 C International as no reason to ignore it.
I'm in the same situation here in France: my new 360 C international ignore the Mesta 210C another K band detector used widely here.
My Escort 8500 International, Uniden DFR 7, Uniden R1, Genevo One M detected it without any problem.
I really hope that Escort will fix this issues and I can suggest European Customers to wait before buying Escort 360 C International.
It doesn't keep his promises ....
 
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