Excessive K band falsing on NR-DSP

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Once again... I would NOT segment any K band, it TOTALLY blocks the range that it covers. With ARF you can choose the signal strength it blocks it to, so nothing is totally blocked, in case you do run into a stray radar so you will at least get an alert to a strong signal.

Do what you want, but it'll probably be the odd ball K band encounter that is likely to nail you even if you don't see K band much... at least give yourself a chance.

Another option for no K areas is set a profile with K band set at 5 or 6 or 7 (yellow or red).
 
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Be on the alert, and next time you have a 24.160 BSM alert, capture it as an ARF frequency. That would cut out another 13% of your K-band alerts. Between that one ARF filter and K segments 3 and 5, that would eliminate 94% of the K-band alerts you've been getting.

Wow. So I ran some errands today around town and excluded K3 and K5, and almost right away got a 24.160 alert which I ARF'd. I got two or three more right after that and they also got ARF'd. So far so good. Thank you again!
 

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Wow. So I ran some errands today around town and excluded K3 and K5, and almost right away got a 24.160 alert which I ARF'd. I got two or three more right after that and they also got ARF'd. So far so good. Thank you again!
Oh no! You only have 15 (IIRC) ARF slots, before they start to overwrite from the beginning. There's no benefit to having duplicates!

Also (and I wish I had done this) - maybe write down what you have saved already...
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Although now that I think about it, if you set an ARF and again got an alert very close to that frequency, then you needed another one - frequency range must be pretty tight (which is good!) on each one.
 
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Oh, I think the subsequent alerts were (or should have been) for different frequencies. I wasn't paying close attention since I'm also driving. :)

I know there are only 15 slots, I am keeping track of that.
 

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I have the same setup. Turn K off. Run KA Wide with the ALP.

Only backroad LEO's use old fashion K band guns. K band is full of junk and BSM's No company can filter this band well. Switch off all bands except KA and Laser. You will be relieved.

The net radar dsp will give you miles of warning on KA. Ive learned the hard way, having the NR DSP just like you, switching to escort, no difference. Now im back to the DSP.

Just turn K off and you will be in nirvana!!
 

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Good call on shutting off specific K band segments as needed and taking advantage of the ARF. That’s way better than shutting off all of K band. I'm looking forward to hearing how that works out for you as you continue getting it all dialed in. :)

Are you certain that there's no K band in use in your area though? ARF is generally a better tool than segmentation.
 
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I am looking forward to the "I got a ticket" threads from those that turn off or segment K band if K band is used at all or a threat in your area... I give up.
 

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I am looking forward to the "I got a ticket" threads from those that turn off or segment K band if K band is used at all or a threat in your area... I give up.
heh yeah, if K band is actively used in any way in your area, using only ARF would be the smartest move. Shutting off segments is definitely far riskier.
 

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Oh, I think the subsequent alerts were (or should have been) for different frequencies. I wasn't paying close attention since I'm also driving. :)

I know there are only 15 slots, I am keeping track of that.
The key to ARF is to keep track of frequencies. It might take a little time to learn but if you find one that is culprit don't ARF it at first whiff. The 24.160, .168, and .197-202's are the main worst ones. Go from there...

Once an offender is found, get as close as you can or normally be to them, push it just a little closer to get a slightly higher signal bar then ARF it. Now almost any of the offenders at that frequency will be a weaker signal at normal distances and you shouldn't have to ever worry about them again bar an abnormal stray once in a while.
 

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If you are running two NET-Radar antennas, front and rear, each antenna is configured separately. I too have NET-Radar and sometimes I overlook that I must select "Rear" and update the settings there too.

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Yes, Vortex points that out in his configuration document, but yeah, the user interface definitely does not make that obvious or intuitive.
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Here's my alert and ARF log from yesterday.

I'm assuming here that for each frequency alert before the ARF was the ARF'd frequency.

So if I ARF'd 24.123 first, shouldn't the second one 24.121 also have been squelched a minute later if ARF does a +/- .002mhz? Would that have been the same BSM just drifting frequencies?

I'm also taking up two spots for 24.121 and 24.123, which if I read about ARF correctly, both should be covered with either.

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Switch K off
Reminds me of a plant operated by a former employer many years ago. They blew up a reactor when a flame propagated back from an ignition source in the vent line. There was a pressure sensor and flame extinguisher system in the line, but it had been turned off. Why? It kept tripping. False alarms. So they turned it off.

It was okay, until one time it wasn’t...
 

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