V1G2 CONSTANT K BAND ALERTS

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I own them both and run the RL360C in my wife’s SUV and the V1G2 in my car. I like them both very much and find that they work very well in North Florida. I find that they’re both very quite which is why your experience is so strange.

Personally, I really appreciate the WiFI connectivity that the RL360C has. The fact that you can update the firmware and database files without ever removing the detector from your vehicle is outstanding.

@Rags has provided and excellent comparison, but I actually like Escort Live. It’s definitely not the best CM app out there, but you can easily adjust your RL360C’s settings and mute alerts and change the brightness without ever touching your detector. Additionally, if you live in a populated area the alerts may sometimes prove to be beneficial. 👍
Yeah, I have really tried to like it. I really really have. I was one of the first with a Live cord to connect to my original Redline. The constant battery hogging, causing the phone to heat up, the fact that every single false Ka alert is reported to the map, and it will only pin the origin of a signal: For example, you have a state trooper pull onto the interstate behind you, he is running I/O in the left lane. The very first alert is where the ONLY alert on the map will show up. Meanwhile you have driven 24 miles with him repeatedly blasting you from behind....oncoming drivers will never get the alert in time, because the alert on the map is still 24 miles away, and drivers coming up from behind will never know they are coming up to a trooper because they passed the original alert 24 miles earlier. Also the fact they don't push crowd sourced alerts back to sources they steal from is kind of crappy.

Heck, if they would simply fix the CPU usage issue with Live, I would be more inclined to use it.
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I'm sorry! I meant ON. I agree with you, it's a lot easier to hide. Is there a downside to the large L as opposed to the little L?
Yes, large L can make you miss alerts. Basically little L will display all the alerts that would be otherwise filtered by large L. That gives you an idea of what you would miss.
 

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Yeah, I have really tried to like it. I really really have. I was one of the first with a Live cord to connect to my original Redline. The constant battery hogging, causing the phone to heat up, the fact that every single false Ka alert is reported to the map, and it will only pin the origin of a signal: For example, you have a state trooper pull onto the interstate behind you, he is running I/O in the left lane. The very first alert is where the ONLY alert on the map will show up. Meanwhile you have driven 24 miles with him repeatedly blasting you from behind....oncoming drivers will never get the alert in time, because the alert on the map is still 24 miles away, and drivers coming up from behind will never know they are coming up to a trooper because they passed the original alert 24 miles earlier. Also the fact they don't push crowd sourced alerts back to sources they steal from is kind of crappy.

Heck, if they would simply fix the CPU usage issue with Live, I would be more inclined to use it.

I don’t disagree and those are valid points. I use a BlendMount with my RL360C so the buttons are not accessible without moving the rear view mirror. EL allows me to control my detector and that’s what I almost exclusively use it for. JBV1, Waze and my Rd are my real CM’s. 👍😎
 

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I don’t disagree and those are valid points. I use a BlendMount with my RL360C so the buttons are not accessible without moving the rear view mirror. EL allows me to control my detector and that’s what I almost exclusively use it for. JBV1, Waze and my Rd are my real CM’s. 👍😎
Same here. I use it to change settings (and sometimes log alerts I am seeing for the forum), and that's about it. I kill the app afterwards.
 

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Yes, large L can make you miss alerts. Basically little L will display all the alerts that would be otherwise filtered by large L. That gives you an idea of what you would miss.

Absolutely! @Rags nailed it. 👍

Personally, I use JBV1 to run my V1G2 in little l mode at or below the PSL and then JBV1 switches my V1G2 to All Bogeys mode at 5mph or greater than the PSL.
 
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Yeah, I have really tried to like it. I really really have. I was one of the first with a Live cord to connect to my original Redline. The constant battery hogging, causing the phone to heat up, the fact that every single false Ka alert is reported to the map, and it will only pin the origin of a signal: For example, you have a state trooper pull onto the interstate behind you, he is running I/O in the left lane. The very first alert is where the ONLY alert on the map will show up. Meanwhile you have driven 24 miles with him repeatedly blasting you from behind....oncoming drivers will never get the alert in time, because the alert on the map is still 24 miles away, and drivers coming up from behind will never know they are coming up to a trooper because they passed the original alert 24 miles earlier. Also the fact they don't push crowd sourced alerts back to sources they steal from is kind of crappy.

Heck, if they would simply fix the CPU usage issue with Live, I would be more inclined to use it.
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Yes, large L can make you miss alerts. Basically little L will display all the alerts that would be otherwise filtered by large L. That gives you an idea of what you would miss.
Will you miss K alerts or KA alerts also?
 

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Just wanted to say thank you to all the guys for their advice on the falsing issues I was having. I'm keeping the V1G2. Very little falsing whether I have V1 Driver running or not. I created different profiles for different threat levels. And interestingly enough, I'm amazed how easy Valentine has made that to execute.
Also, I was following another thread about Escort patents and how litigious they are. I think I made the right decision on the purchase.
I have a problem with company's that stifle competition with lawsuits.
 

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I'm sorry! I meant ON. I agree with you, it's a lot easier to hide. Is there a downside to the large L as opposed to the little L?
Let's review (made simpler I hope):
These apply to X and K band signals only. Ka band will always alert.
'A' mode (All bogeys) - no muting either visually or audibly. No filtering.
'l' mode (logic) - no visual muting but weaker signals are audibly muted. Minimal (light) filtering.
'L' mode (adv. Logic) - both visual and audible muting to weaker signals. Maximum filtering (* little or no I/O or Q/T warning).
 

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Let's review (made simpler I hope):
These apply to X and K band signals only. Ka band will always alert.
'A' mode (All bogeys) - no muting either visually or audibly. No filtering.
'l' mode (logic) - no visual muting but weaker signals are audibly muted. Minimal (light) filtering.
'L' mode (adv. Logic) - both visual and audible muting to weaker signals. Maximum filtering (* little or no I/O or Q/T warning).
Good post. But the aggressiveness between ‘l’ and ‘L’ is the same as far as I know. It’s just if both visual and audible are included in the “light muting”. If I’m wrong on that someone correct me.

It can certainly feel like ‘L’ is more aggressive because everything is suppressed. So therefore it’s a little tricky to confirm on the road for sure how the two compare on aggressiveness. You’d have to confirm it in the lab or controlled environment.
 

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It can certainly feel like ‘L’ is more aggressive because everything is suppressed. So therefore it’s a little tricky to confirm on the road for sure how the two compare on aggressiveness. You’d have to confirm it in the lab or controlled environment.
Good points but i drew part of that conclusion from Vortex's Mazda CX5 video. Watching the difference between l mode and L. In 'l' mode it mostly always showed 2 bogeys with constant non-stop alerts. In 'L' mode it only showed 1 bogey and alternated between 1 bogey and no alert. That would indicate to me another level of filtering, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
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Good points but i drew part of that conclusion from Vortex's Mazda CX5 video. Watching the difference between l mode and L. In 'l' mode it mostly always showed 2 bogeys with constant non-stop alerts. In 'L' mode it only showed 1 bogey and alternated between 1 bogey and no alert. That would indicate to me another level of filtering, but maybe I'm wrong.
I don’t think that proves it. You could be just visually suppressing the weak alert. If ‘l’ audibly alerted and ‘L’ never showed any alert then that would show it has stronger filtering. Because if it audibly punched through on ‘l’ then it should show alert in ‘L’ for the same signal. If both modes audibly alerted but the count was different that does not mean more filtering. It just means some signals were under audible threshold in ‘l’ and invisible in ‘L’ by the same threshold.
 
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"A" and Little L are the same except on how the detector presents the alert. Big L has more filtering involved and might not alert if the detector determines it's not important.
 

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