Pro M falling behind the competition?

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I live in a very heavy MRCD area so it’s Pro-m all the way. It also saved my ass from Ka band up in the mountains coming up a hill in a passing lane. Zero line of sight, but it alerted me and I was at the PSL when I crested the hill and saw the radar tripod set up.

I‘m hoping for one more firmware update to get rid of the obnoxious speed camera “threat cleared” jingle it plays, but I’m not holding my breath. That jingle it plays pisses me off... Its really stupid for a detector that was marketed with “Silence is a virtue”.
 

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I've always wanted to try the pro-m, but even used they are priced high, and somehow convince myself why buy a good detector that is being left behind by updated ones. It doesnt check all of my boxes and the curiosity dies down... too bad....
 

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Vortex,

I saw your video on the installed version of the Radenso. I think the user interface is too complicated. Im used to the simplicity of my escort, though i have k notch filters set up on the escort now. So you dont need the auto lockouts or BSM k band frequencies as they are turned off completely. A solution where the radar does everything without your brain becoming a radio manager or filter is needed. I rather drive in luxury than the damn thing going off every 10 seconds. We need a manufacturer to step up...

Going forward, the settings of Radar Detectors should be done by state. Someone needs to manage a database like radio reference.com. I have seen your article from many years ago. Maybe a non profit needs to take this project on and put it for public view.

Lastly i do like Radensos integration with the ALP, however Net Radar does the same. And all of them alert to everything going around us. Its just too many alerts, you get numb and non-responsive after a while.

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I switched back to the R7 when fw 1.33 came out as it made the r7's mrcd detection a very viable and usable feature. I did very much appreciate radenso's reply but I had to ask twice about a year ago whether there will be any new developments for the pro m and their reply was not promising but at least honest. Since then they actually rolled back the latest firmware and has been pretty silent since. Given that this product seems to be just in maintenance mode, I don't think I can recommend this detector to anyone due to the lack of any future development. I would love to and want to be wrong.
Yes the rollback of firmware us 22 back to us 19 which shuts off all laser detection with absolutely no solution in sight and no plan for any improvement that I can see in the foreseeable future is disheartening as a Pro M user. For the price Radenso charges for this detector there should still be firmware updates attempting to fix this issue. The thing I like about the Pro M is the stealth factor. I run it mounted high on the windshield hardwired near the headliner when I drive around Virginia and DC and it's completely invisible. I still don't get the point of having a stealth Redline ex or redline 360c when the physical size of the RD is so big that it is easily visible on the windshield in areas where it is illegal. The escort stealth detectors are huge in size compared to the Pro M. Therefore I think the Pro M is still the best choice to run in areas where RDs are illegal.
 

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So with the R7's recent addition of autolockouts, I've been going back to think about how all the top detectors now stack up against each other.

Up to this point, the Pro M's big appeal has been the BSM filtering and MRCD support.

It used to be the only detector that can filter out Hondas and Acuras. Now with K Block 1 & 2, the R7 can mostly do that too. Escort has been adding K Notch to filter out the 24.199'ish falses too.

When it comes to MRCD, the Redline 360c is evidently pretty good at this too thanks to some recent updates, with good detection range and a progressive rampup, but it's more expensive and tough to get in Canada. When it comes to MRCT, I understand the Pro M falses quite a bit and the R7 is a better choice.

Looking at the R7 vs the Pro M, they're both around the same price (depending on the current price of the R7), but the R7 also adds arrows, autolockouts, an accurate freq. display, color screen, Mac update software, a traditional power cable connector and remote mute button if you want, and even CX-5 BSM filtering if you enable MRCD detection. The Pro M is... smaller and the updates (for Windows users) are more painless.

I'm mostly just thinking aloud here, but it seems like the Pro M is starting to fall behind the competition. Do you think it belongs among the best of the best? In which situations and for what reasons do you think the Pro M would be the best choice?
For NOW! The Radenso Pro M, Is the Path Finder For MRCD/MRCT That I Trust Above ALL Others!...

Disney World & Epcot Center In Orlando Snuck It Into Their Surrounding Roadways Under Homeland Security
Blanket For the Entire Theme Park Perimeter For Thanksgiving of 2020!

I Posted A Reply To This Fact A Few Weeks Ago From Another Posting!

The Radenso Pro M Architecture Was Built For MRCD/MRCT Ultimate Detection!
The Other Detectors Have It As Part of Their NEW Firmware< >Construct! Add On!
 

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For NOW! The Radenso Pro M, Is the Path Finder For MRCD/MRCT That I Trust Above ALL Others!...

Disney World & Epcot Center In Orlando Snuck It Into Their Surrounding Roadways Under Homeland Security
Blanket For the Entire Theme Park Perimeter For Thanksgiving of 2020!

I Posted A Reply To This Fact A Few Weeks Ago From Another Posting!

The Radenso Pro M Architecture Was Built For MRCD/MRCT Ultimate Detection!
The Other Detectors Have It As Part of Their NEW Firmware< >Construct! Add On!
Interesting. Are they doing any type of enforcement on those roads or are the systems for another purpose? I'm guessing that the Disney parks and property (with the help of the gov't) have the most intricate security systems in the world because it would be considered a high value target. I'm guessing that everything we do on that property is being watched.
 

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I'll sum it up this way - I wouldn't buy one new at this point for the price, but it's not so far behind that I feel the need to replace the Pro M I'm using now.

Still a damn good used option though.
 

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Pro M:
Its ability to identify the different MR radars by CD, CT, Gatso, etc. is beyond every other detector at this time.
To be able to choose which MR threat, and individually set the filtering for them, is outstanding.
If you face these threats, it must be given a serious consideration when deciding on a detector.

For you in Ontario: Stealth emissions, discrete sizing, MRCD & CT, excellently maintained camera database....
Lots of checkmarks in the plus category.
 

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Pro M:
Its ability to identify the different MR radars by CD, CT, Gatso, etc. is beyond every other detector at this time.
To be able to choose which MR threat, and individually set the filtering for them, is outstanding.
If you face these threats, it must be given a serious consideration when deciding on a detector.
How is the MRCD range/filtering compare to the latest Escorts?

Playing around with the MRCT option, I find it falses a lot and I've heard that Undien's MRCT detection works better for NYC.
For you in Ontario: Stealth emissions, discrete sizing, MRCD & CT, excellently maintained camera database....
Lots of checkmarks in the plus category.
For Canada especially, I can see it continuing to be a great choice.
 

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I can't comment on MRCT as there is none here yet, and my wife is not keen on me using her as a test subject to see how much falsing I can get out of her Pro M.
LOL, I asked her some questions about her "Pro M" lately, she gave me a blank look and blinked several times, "huh, the what"
After several seconds she clued in about what the subject was, and "oh, my radar detector, is that what it's called?"
Thus my previous comment about needing a completely automated detector, zero user interaction required.
I thought she was doing so well....


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I can't comment on MRCT as there is none here yet, and my wife is not keen on me using her as a test subject to see how much falsing I can get out of her Pro M.
LOL, I asked her some questions about her "Pro M" lately, she gave me a blank look and blinked several times, "huh, the what"
After several seconds she clued in about what the subject was, and "oh, my radar detector, is that what it's called?"
Thus my previous comment about needing a completely automated detector, zero user interaction required.
I thought she was doing so well....


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My wife's the same way. I just have her Max II in auto mode with auto lockouts. She doesn't know about manual lockouts and she doesn't understand why I keep buying new RDs.
 

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This is a very timely thread for me. I‘ve been waiting patiently for Theia’s release so I could give my Pro M to my wife. As time drags on I’m starting to lose interest in Theia. I’m now considering the V1 Gen 2 or the R7. I drive in VA often and have appreciated the small footprint of the Pro M but it”s definitely starting to show it’s age tech wise.
 

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This is a very timely thread for me. I‘ve been waiting patiently for Theia’s release so I could give my Pro M to my wife. As time drags on I’m starting to lose interest in Theia. I’m now considering the V1 Gen 2 or the R7. I drive in VA often and have appreciated the small footprint of the Pro M but it”s definitely starting to show it’s age.

Do you get laser falses with your Pro M in Virginia?
 

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I’ve heard about the Lidar falsing on a Pro-M.... but have never had it personally had it happen to me.

Wonder if the phone in close proximity might have an effect?

I do have a few Pro-M’s. One is running FW US22 and the other is on US19. The 3rd one might be on US14 still
 

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I’ve heard about the Lidar falsing on a Pro-M.... but have never had it personally had it happen to me.

Wonder if the phone in close proximity might have an effect?

I do have a few Pro-M’s. One is running FW US22 and the other is on US19. The 3rd one might be on US14 still
It isn't the phone. It has something to do with either IR camera or road sensors or lidar wind shear devices. I have a US22 pro m and when I'm in Comnecticut for half the week I get zero laser falses. But as soon as I cross into New York and then drive to my house in Pennsylvania it's non stop laser falses. It does it regardless of where the phone is. I hypothesize something on the road is triggering it in these states. It also laser falses in Washington DC and New Jersey but never laser falses in Idaho or Nebraska or much of the Midwest.
 

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Interesting. Are they doing any type of enforcement on those roads or are the systems for another purpose? I'm guessing that the Disney parks and property (with the help of the gov't) have the most intricate security systems in the world because it would be considered a high value target. I'm guessing that everything we do on that property is being watched.
That Is 110% Accurate Z06fan!

That Security Umbrella Applies To ALL High Value Targets In the US! Especially The Theme Parks!
Top 25 Most Visited! And! Top 100 Most Populated! ALL Major Land Marks!

Have You Seen the Spider Cams In! And! Around Time Square 42nd Street In NYC?
Detect Radiation Levels! Heat Scans! High-Temp Motion Sensors! Vapor Sniff Sensors! MRCD/MRCT! On ALL 4-Corners!
And Now! Drones! 24/7!...

And Yes! Disney Has A CIC-Command Information Center That Rivals the DoD!
Disney Has A Proprietary Security System Nicknamed the ORB! What It's Actually Called?
360° Bubble of Protection!

Just Imagine! If Disney Took A Hit!!! Its Over For Them!...
 

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That Is 110% Accurate Z06fan!

That Security Umbrella Applies To ALL High Value Targets In the US! Especially The Theme Parks!
Top 25 Most Visited! And! Top 100 Most Populated! ALL Major Land Marks!

Have You Seen the Spider Cams In! And! Around Time Square 42nd Street In NYC?
Detect Radiation Levels! Heat Scans! High-Temp Motion Sensors! Vapor Sniff Sensors! MRCD/MRCT! On ALL 4-Corners!
And Now! Drones! 24/7!...

And Yes! Disney Has A CIC-Command Information Center That Rivals the DoD!
Disney Has A Proprietary Security System Nicknamed the ORB! What It's Actually Called?
360° Bubble of Protection!

Just Imagine! If Disney Took A Hit!!! Its Over For Them!...
Every time I walk into Disney or Epcot, I look around wondering where the detection systems are, LOL. One of the scariest briefings I ever listened to was when I was at the DIA. We had a briefing from someone from the CIA cover soft targets in the US, including the the ease of "bad guys" putting "bad things" into our water supplies (many cities of course get their water from area lakes, etc) and taking out power grids. There's a whole different world operating behind the curtain :).

Interesting stuff but my apologies for being apart of getting this thread get off topic. Back to the Pro M.
 

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So with the R7's recent addition of autolockouts, I've been going back to think about how all the top detectors now stack up against each other.

Up to this point, the Pro M's big appeal has been the BSM filtering and MRCD support.

It used to be the only detector that can filter out Hondas and Acuras. Now with K Block 1 & 2, the R7 can mostly do that too. Escort has been adding K Notch to filter out the 24.199'ish falses too.

When it comes to MRCD, the Redline 360c is evidently pretty good at this too thanks to some recent updates, with good detection range and a progressive rampup, but it's more expensive and tough to get in Canada. When it comes to MRCT, I understand the Pro M falses quite a bit and the R7 is a better choice.

Looking at the R7 vs the Pro M, they're both around the same price (depending on the current price of the R7), but the R7 also adds arrows, autolockouts, an accurate freq. display, color screen, Mac update software, a traditional power cable connector and remote mute button if you want, and even CX-5 BSM filtering if you enable MRCD detection. The Pro M is... smaller and the updates (for Windows users) are more painless.

I'm mostly just thinking aloud here, but it seems like the Pro M is starting to fall behind the competition. Do you think it belongs among the best of the best? In which situations and for what reasons do you think the Pro M would be the best choice?
I agree with all points. Yet, it is my go to for carrying when traveling, or using where smaller is better. As the days move on, others match/beat Pro M for quietness, plus the rice grain-mount bending (messes the level aim) manual lockout button (with nothing to do this at the cigarette lighter plug), it does fade as a satisfying device.
 
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