RL360c vs Max360 Ka-Band Reactivity Testing - Stalker

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I had a short bit tonight to finish off the second half of the the reactivity testing, Ka this time! (Stalker 34.7)

Max 360 settings for all tests:
Highway, TSR Off, X Band Off, MRCT/D Off

RL360c setting that did not change:
Highway, TSR Off, X Band Off, MRCT/D Off - K on with all K segments on

Test #1
RL360c - Ka Seg 5 only ON
As expected from my prior tests the RL360c beats the M360 every time with the RL just scanning one segment.


Test #2
RL360c - Ka Seg 2/5/8
This is how the RL ships from Escort - This is about dead even with the M360 for reactivity. You never know if one will pick it up and the other will just miss it or if they both will catch it.


Test #3
RL360c - Ka 2/4/5/6/8
Ideally this is how I would like to run the RL to catch drifting guns as I do drive into upstate NY where they are more common. Adding 4/6 slows the RL down enough where the M360 will beat it every time until long trigger pulls are given.


Test #4
RL360c - Ka ON - All Ka segments On
This is the most 'Apples to Apples' test as the Max is scanning All K band and Ka bands as well. The M360 is the clear winner again, and you can tell the RL is slowing down further with the additional segments added.


No surprises here as this is what I have encountered running these units independently when testing as well.

On a positive note, when reviewing the footage slowly I noticed that the moment the RL alerts the arrow/direction is displayed instantly with no delay. The M360 has an arrow delay and requires a few to display it. This is the reason I run FR1 on the M360, as it shows the strength on the graph front/rear to be able to tell the direction before the unit can assign a light to an arrow. Escort did a great job with the arrow reactivity upon signal detection on the RL360c.
 

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@JSherbondy FYI. I’ve personally experienced this behavior as well. Chris
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I had a short bit tonight to finish off the second half of the the reactivity testing, Ka this time! (Stalker 34.7)

Max 360 settings for all tests:
Highway, TSR Off, X Band Off, MRCT/D Off

RL360c setting that did not change:
Highway, TSR Off, X Band Off, MRCT/D Off - K on with all K segments on

Test #1
RL360c - Ka Seg 5 only ON
As expected from my prior tests the RL360c beats the M360 every time with the RL just scanning one segment.


Test #2
RL360c - Ka Seg 2/5/8
This is how the RL ships from Escort - This is about dead even with the M360 for reactivity. You never know if one will pick it up and the other will just miss it or if they both will catch it.


Test #3
RL360c - Ka 2/4/5/6/8
Ideally this is how I would like to run the RL to catch drifting guns as I do drive into upstate NY where they are more common. Adding 4/6 slows the RL down enough where the M360 will beat it every time until long trigger pulls are given.


Test #4
RL360c - Ka ON - All Ka segments On
This is the most 'Apples to Apples' test as the Max is scanning All K band and Ka bands as well. The M360 is the clear winner again, and you can tell the RL is slowing down further with the additional segments added.


No surprises here as this is what I have encountered running these units independently when testing as well.

On a positive note, when reviewing the footage slowly I noticed that the moment the RL alerts the arrow/direction is displayed instantly with no delay. The M360 has an arrow delay and requires a few to display it. This is the reason I run FR1 on the M360, as it shows the strength on the graph front/rear to be able to tell the direction before the unit can assign a light to an arrow. Escort did a great job with the arrow reactivity upon signal detection on the RL360c.
Thank you for doing this.
 

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I swapped the M360 for the RL360c this morning just to give it some WS time, see how it goes.
 

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awesome test - so much for the theory that segmentation does not matter... looks like segmentation is a family tradition for the RL...
 

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awesome test - so much for the theory that segmentation does not matter... looks like segmentation is a family tradition for the RL...
They have always said it does not matter with the Max360c, and testing has shown they are right with that RD.

Segmenting the RL360c definitely does make a reactivity difference, much like it did with their older RD's. Given it is 2020 we should not really 'need to' segment this RD to gain acceptable reactivity though.

I wish it was a RLMAX360c, would have been the best of everything.
 

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They have always said it does not matter with the Max360c, and testing has shown they are right with that RD.

Segmenting the RL360c definitely does make a reactivity difference, much like it did with their older RD's. Given it is 2020 we should not really 'need to' segment this RD to gain acceptable reactivity though.

I wish it was a RLMAX360c, would have been the best of everything.
Hopefully Escort is listening and has update 1.5 ready to be pushed out soon, this is not the reaction time I need with the RL 360c as my daily driver!
 

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They have always said it does not matter with the Max360c, and testing has shown they are right with that RD.

Segmenting the RL360c definitely does make a reactivity difference, much like it did with their older RD's. Given it is 2020 we should not really 'need to' segment this RD to gain acceptable reactivity though.

I wish it was a RLMAX360c, would have been the best of everything.
any idea of what the reactivity speed is with these two? <.3ms? or >.5ms?
 

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thanks - that is amazing for a fully digital detector. hopefully cobelcort can fix?
That is the $750 question right now. I hope they do (since I already own one), but with every passing week with no new firmware released my doubt grows a little more. The big question comes down to if this is a hardware limitation or if they can re-write things to speed up the reaction time. The Max360 series blows it away for reactivity apples to apples so you would think something in '20 would easily match and/or beat it. Did they try to skimp on hardware to improve profits, who knows....as they say....only time will tell. I'm sure Covid is not helping speed things along either.
 

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