Comparison of 6 Different Detector Ramp Ups

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Hi there RDFers.
I thought I would share my thoughts on ramp up display on my different detectors recently run in multiple test runs, instead of starting multiple review threads in each brand forum.
I will state my preferences and thoughts on each one, and why it should matter to detector buyers. Actually why it matters has multiple reasons but generally it is a matter of the detector being reliable, consistent and trust worthy in the information supplied to a user. An unpredictable ramp up behavior makes threat recongnition harder, perhaps delaying your response time, or scaring you into over reacting.
For best demonstration I will use all K Band alerts so I can compare the Hwy and City ramp up differences.
Anyways, by detector I will show a typical full sensitivity approach, and then with reduced sensitivity in City or Auto modes.
Cobra DualPro 360
You can see here on Highway mode the DualPro starts at a lower signal bar strength that gets stronger as I approach the source. The sound also starts slowly and ramps up. The voice anouncement got in the way of the ramp up sounds until it got stronger. I have noticed a lot of the Escort platform devices have alert tones cut out for no reason, then come back when it's a panic sounding alert. IMO it needs work on making a consistent sound ramp up with no cutting out mid-alert. This comment applies to all 5 Escorts I have.
Now the Auto alert (did not use Auto Low K) was done on all tests all detectors at 60 kph +/- 1 kph for consistency in how Auto Mode reduces the sensitivity levels. Also 60 (38mph) is right at that point where many of us start worring about a ticket in a 50 kph (30 mph) city area.
Auto run shows how Escort delivers ramp up. They simply mute the signal until it reaches the alert threshold of the Auto settin. Then, as in this case, it alerts with sound and meter strength as a more urgent alert, requiring instant attention.
The DualPro provided excellent range in this particular test on Auto Mode, almost as well as it's Highway runs, which were below average of my group. Only the mighty R7 bested the DualPro on the City runs this day.
Overall impression: I like this detector, especially as a high performance city/urban device. It's sounds better to me than the Escort tones, and the ramp up IMO is just sightly better than the others Escorts. Even on highway mode it is extremely resistant to falsing on BSMs and stationary sources, and AutoLockouts will handle the ones breaking through with only 2 passes by. This would be a great detector for those wanting a premium device and performance but can be plug and drive by the most novice of users. Limited interaction required. Price is a major factor in making this detector a great bang for your buck. Sales in the $369USD range IMO is a stellar deal to get into a very very good arrow detector. If outright reception range is your preference, then you will have to step up to the big 3 (R7, V1G2, Redline 360c)

Max 3
Some of the comments above apply to the Max 3. Cut out of audio alert, intitail ramp up is panic inducing sound and signal meter strength.
One run of the Max 3 it didn't alert until I was directly in front of the gun. Look at the meter distances on the RD Test app.
Auto Mode doesn't do the Max 3 any favors, it did the worst on the City test at 60 kph of all the detectors, as opposed to being a strong runner up to the Unidens on the Highway mode.
Ramp up weaknesses in full display here, IMO it was the worst.

Max II
Here the Max II clearly displays the Escort ramp up behaviour in Auto mode run, while the Highway run which was the better of two, started at a lower signal bar alert, the next Hwy run ramped up aggressively, because it failed to alert until around the final bend and then gave a pretty fast ramp up like an isntant on. Again this detector mirrors the comments made above about ramp up, Auto Mode ramp up, alert tone dropping, and general eratic alerting behaviours when compare to the best.
Auto Mode alert distances came in 3rd place behind R7 and DualPro, and 4th on highway setting behind the Unidens and Max 3. Escorts have been doing K band for a long time, and they all have decent K Band range on Highway setting.

Escorts
Auto mode it becomes a lottery on which model provides proper protection, and suitable behaviors. Obviously the Max 3, Max II and DualPro 360 all have different reductions in K band sensitivity in Auto Mode. The Max 3 I give a resounding fail for Auto Mode performance as seen and measured so far.

Radenso Pro M
The Pro M offers improved ramp up behaviours in City mode, and it mimics it's behaviour from highway mode, which is to show a lower level alert and sound at initial signal alert and slowly ramp up as you approach the source, until full bars near the kill zone.
So if you increase filters and reduce sensitivity on the Pro M, it behaves as though the detector is less sensitive and ramps up in a progressive manner.
I prefer this behaviour to the panic inducing Escort style of alert encountered when in Auto Mode.
The downside of the Pro M is it was consistently pulling low scores on warning distances so perhaps it should have been more enthusiastic in warning ramp up because I was getting so close to the radar source.
On the other side of the coin, the Pro M rarely falses when operated in the user adjustable AutoCity mode. Unlike the Escort Auto modes, you can set speeds, sensitivities, filters to custom tune the way the detector alerts and filters in AutoCity mode. This would be a killer feature in the Unidens, to allow a speed to be set to switch between City, Adv, Hwy modes.

R3
While not the best videos as I stopped recording too soon, you can see on the highway run the very sensitive R3 started out with a 1 bar alert a good distance to the source, this ramps up nicely until rounding the final bend and it screams "I'm in Danger!". The R Series will alert full bars before you're in the kill zone. Highway mode is beast mode.
On City mode the R3 stumbled, dropping down in sensitivity so much it only beat out the flawed Max 3 Auto mode. I suggest R3 be run Adv 30% in urban areas at a minumum, I use 40% for my own. City setting for shutting it up in the most extreme garbage zones only. The City run displays the ramp up like the Radensdo, meaning the detector acts as it you actually reduced sensitivity and not just hide the alert until the big "Surprise" panic alert.
Too bad about this test on City mode against the low powered Falcon HR gun, the R3 wouldn't go to full bar alert even when passing directly in front of the gun position.
Ramp up was okat on City, just that I was very quick from first alert to kill zone.

R7
I apologize again for turning off the video on the R Series while doing Highway Mode test runs, but the range is so much farther out and I wanted to get many runs in, it was a distance test and this ramp up thread is just a bonus from my footage.
I crown the R7 king in this comparison!
It always started with 1 bar alerts and ramps up as I get closer.
Although it does alert farther back than every other detector, on every setting, giving it more distance to do its' job.
Even City Mode, because it maintained longer range it ramped up nicely.
This course was very terrain limited, so a more open course will lend to longer and stronger alerts.
Some may say the R7 alerts ridiculously strong, but I disagree.
When there is a radar gun pointing in my direction, I want to be alerted that there is a significant threat ahead with as much urgency as it deserves.
I don't want a detector that finally reached full alert status a few seconds before I see the LEOs whites of his eyes.
Auto Mute finctions and the Mute button handle my annoyance levels if required for an alert lasting longer than my tolerance.
Just please tell me when I'm approaching danger with an urgency that gets my attention, instead of "just another faint beep or false alert".
I want to be driving like a reponsible citizen when LEO first sees me, not nose diving with a Holy Sheet! I guess it was real alert.
FYI: The R7 on City Mode (K @ 18%) has more range than the Pro M and DualPro on their Highway settings. Just begind the Max II highway mode. Max 3 Hwy may be close to the R7 30%, possibly 40%.

Remember this was just one test.
My comments however, summarize my feelings from multiple tests and drives.
Regards,
 
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We really need to get you a g2 to include in your next testing, K band, Rampup, off axis
 
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We really need to get you a g2 to include in your testing
No rush, I'm taking a break for a while and get excited again when Theia is in shipment.
I just got to start the alibi for the wife when she also opens that package when it arrives.
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I noticed I had 2 city runs for the DualPro, I change to add the Hwy run.
 
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AND you still have me liking my R7 :)
Thank you again for sharing your testing !
Nice Job !
 

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