Radenso Theia Update Dec 2020 - Discussion thread

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Why not? Then you could say "it's just a prototype and still performs better than any other detector on the marke
To get a better idea of the overall situation you may want to go back and read up on this thread. That will bring you up to speed on Radenso's previous statements as to their intended release process, plus the dynamics of some users that would deter further information sharing by most manufactures. Bring popcorn ;)
 

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Why not? Then you could say "it's just a prototype and still performs better than any other detector on the market"

Because even after Theia comes out, it will be still viewed by a lot of people. We want it to be clear what people are pre-ordering and also even after pre-order.
 

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Ok...…..speaking of prototypes...…..this showed up as part of my contest awards!

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I would definitely not mind if THIS were the production horn inside Theia...…….completely CNC machined from a solid block of aluminum!

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This is some real artwork and a beautiful assembly! I incredulously asked Jon if this was a production horn (can you imagine the time to machine this) and not surprisingly the answer was no. Production horns will be cast from magnesium and have some fins added to double as a heat sink. None the less it will be based on this design........just different materials and fabrication process. Would there be a noticeable difference in performance? I don't know but the lines on a cast horn will never be this crisp and sharp while flat surfaces may be a bit smoother. Also you have what may amount to different electrical properties between the two metals. So I don't know if it would be a straight up apples to apples comparison between this prototype horn and the production model (but I certainly wouldn't mind having this one under the hood).

Now for the dimensions of the horn itself. This very much reminds me of Escort's compact S7 horn...….a fabulously balanced horn with a relatively mild and consistent taper and small aperture. Less directional than larger horns like that found inside the Uniden LRD950. This should give it tremendous off axis performance while leaving the RF circuitry to extract as much straight line distance as possible. Wider antennas with a more pronounced taper would make the antenna more directional or give it a bit more gain to signals in perfect alignment but start dropping off and losing gain the more out of alignment you get with the source. For RDs I prefer a balanced horns like this and the S7 / M3 / V1G2 with excellent off-axis reception.

Here is a comparison between Theia and the horn assembly out of the Uniden (which is similar to the current Radenso models)

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Last but not least is the labyrinth inside of RF isolation chambers and microstrip tunnels. A very elaborate arrangement that provides a separate stall for every element on the strip line filters! That's pretty crazy!

I'd like to thank Jon for sending me the ball cap and sticker...….but to see this in the bottom of the box blew me out of the water! It's like getting a moon rock from Nasa.

Dimensions: 5 1/4" Long and 2 13/16 at the widest point (mounting bosses). Horn dimesions: 1 1/16 W x 9/16 H x 1 3/4 long. Comparatively the Uniden is 1 9/16 W x 5/8 H x 1 5/8 long.
 

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Last but not least is the labyrinth inside of RF isolation chambers and microstrip tunnels. A very elaborate arrangement that provides a separate stall for every element on the strip line filters! That's pretty crazy!
When you get a production Theia you'll have to move the RF board into this horn and do some testing!
 

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Hats off to Radenso! Who does this? That is some serious swag. I'm pouring another drink now. To Team Radenso!!
 

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Maybe if we all go to their online shop and each buy a T-Shirt, one of us will get lucky and find the golden PCB inside? πŸ˜†


Update: I tried. I think someone else beat me to it...

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When you get a production Theia you'll have to move the RF board into this horn and do some testing!
That thought has criss crossed my mind numerous times. Although it would be a lot easier if Jon just sent me the remaining prototype parts that go with THIS horn so I don't muck up a good unit.:laugh:

I was going to prank that I could attest to the parts shortage crisis because my Theia order showed up missing a few parts...…..but the situation deserved a more serious approach.

Hmmm, better yet.......I'll bet @WildOne and @Token have the missing pieces! :rofl:
 
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I was going to prank that I could attest to the parts shortage crisis because my Theia order showed up missing a few parts...…..but the situation deserved a more serious approach.
Did it come with screws at least? πŸ˜›
 

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Individual pieces were sent to various winners.

Now you all have to find out who has what, get together and put all the modular parts together. 😝
Individual pieces were sent to various winners.

Now you all have to find out who has what, get together and put all the modular parts together. 😝
Purple text ahead; Nope don’t believe it, those pics are fake, its not real
 

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I honestly don't remember what revision your prototype is, but I know it's an earrrrly one since it wasn't bead blasted. So I don't think the production RF board fits in it, I think we shifted the location of some of the walls very slightly as we improved our filter design. I think it would seem like it fits, but the walls might short out a microstrip.

I am really glad you liked it - one of the things I enjoy about this journey is being able to share it with the people that truly like RF. Sure there are the occasional trolls, but by and large there are good people here and a few that "get it." I learned a tremendous amount over the last few years about RF and I try to think what would have made me really happy as an enthusiast when interacting with a manufacturer. And since I am a hardware guy, I know that getting an early prototype part would have made me super excited. It is fun being in a position to do that for other people!
 

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I truly hate analog and RF circuits, I like digital, ones and zeros, but I’m still enjoying the journey. πŸ˜€
 

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@benzr can reassemble theia once all the parts arrive to y’all using telekinesis .
valentine sent him a disassembled V1g2 to start cuz he’s that good 😌 (or maybe he disassembled it in the mail inadvertently just to warm up?)
 

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This was all a test and you failed it. Here you are taking pics and posting them. The correct answer would have been dead air/silence or the blank face β€œThanks for the hat... bottom of the box?... I didn’t see anything.” remark. Can’t anyone keep secrets anymore?

I would have passed Randy’s test. πŸ˜‰
 

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@benzr can reassemble theia once all the parts arrive to y’all using telekinesis .
valentine sent him a disassembled V1g2 to start cuz he’s that good 😌 (or maybe he disassembled it in the mail inadvertently just to warm up?)
Hahahahaha.
Sorry i only have Telekinetics. What ever the F that is L0L. 😜😜😜😜

Btw. I like yhe new FW on my G2. It appears to ramp up better and I "think" it's quieter on BSMs, but not entirely sure.

Still though JBV1, small data plan, and V1G2 is an UNBEATABLE FORCE. πŸ€“πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘πŸ§πŸ˜Ž

Just sayin'

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I truly hate analog and RF circuits, I like digital, ones and zeros, but I’m still enjoying the journey. πŸ˜€
Come on now. Analog is beautiful. Tubes and bipolar transistors are amazing. Let's not forget the JFET. RF is out there in the ether. What's not to love?
 

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Where is the "Theia just vaporware" gang? :whoptc::rolleyes: :barf:
 

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Did it come with screws at least? πŸ˜›
Hell yeah..….there were even two flavors...….Philips head for US customers and a spare set of Robertson screws for Canadian customers (@DC Fluid ).

This was all a test and you failed it. Here you are taking pics and posting them. The correct answer would have been dead air/silence or the blank face β€œThanks for the hat... bottom of the box?... I didn’t see anything.” remark. Can’t anyone keep secrets anymore?

I would have passed Randy’s test. πŸ˜‰
I'm afraid you misunderstood...…….this was the one part at the bottom of the box I was allowed to share, the others are all classified. It was a huge box! ;) :thumbsup: :rofl:
 
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