Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me...I'm done

[Heywood]

@Rags
What are you seeing?
Is it MRCT or MRCD?
What frequency are you seeing?
What location is this false?
Can you reproduce it on demand?

 

[Rags]

@Rags
What are you seeing?
Is it MRCT or MRCD?
What frequency are you seeing?
What location is this false?
Can you reproduce it on demand?

Sorry, didn't do any logs as I had no convenient way to do so while driving. But it was consistently annoying enough to turn it off. I ran it for a month straight to compare with my R7 and new V1G2 on my long trips. If I ever get to try it again, I will try to do more documentation.

 

[Heywood]

So why not just turn off MRCD off and leave MRCT active...... or vice versa?
What state do these MRCD false’s show up?
Maybe it’s your unit that needs a check. Ever look if there was a error code in the detectors log?

 

[Bluelinex]

So quit lying and saying it can't do those things. Also quit pretending the situation is different with the RL360C, as when you turn MRCD on with it, it's actually noisier than the V1G2 (or V1G1 for that matter).

Now if you want to claim the RL360C gives a tad more distance with MRCD, you have a valid argument.

I do not turn on the MRCD/CT in NY I don't have to. All the speed & red light cams are in the Escort data base that's all you need in NYC all the cams are stationary. If you run the V1G2 with two apps like V1 Driver & WASE it will do the job but to me that's a real pain. With a Max or Red Line 360c all you have to do is put it on you windshield & turn it on.

 

[Rags]

I do not turn on the MRCD/CT in NY I don't have to. All the speed & red light cams are in the Escort data base that's all you need in NYC all the cams are stationary. If you run the V1G2 with two apps like V1 Driver & WASE it will do the job but to me that's a real pain. With a Max or Red Line 360c all you have to do is put it on you windshield & turn it on.

I just run JBV1. No need for Waze here.

 

[Heywood]

Still waiting on the V1G2 MRCD MRCT tests showing that it’s fine.
Any idea where @Rags ???

 

[Bloovy One]

That's what it was!
I was trying to recall why Bluelinex says "2 apps".

IOS = V1 Driver and waze (for camera alerts)

Android = JBV1

 

[Bluelinex]

I just run JBV1. No need for Waze here.

Nice, I have an Apple phone so I can't use JBV1 I would have to use two apps to protect me. Of coarse these detectors are $150 to 250 more that a V1 so you have to PAY for that convenience. It's up to each person what their willing to spend.

 

[ljh505]

@jerzboi the K-Notch option is only available in the detector settings itself, not through the app. That makes the ride much quieter for BSM. @Vortex has a video and articles on his website to get to that option in the detector itself. I have had great luck with mine, so sorry to hear you are having issues

Yeah, witout the Vortex video, I never would have discovered this feature in the MAX 360c. It is crazy that they didn't put it in the App. I tried searching in the app a few times, went and re-watched the Vortex videos, and then had an "a ha" moment that I had to use the buttons on the unit itself to enable the notch filter. The detector is now usable on a crowded highway after engaging the K-band notch filter and enough trips over a month or two to have it auto-learn the standard stationary false alert sources.

 

[rdrlsr385]

I do not turn on the MRCD/CT in NY I don't have to. All the speed & red light cams are in the Escort data base that's all you need in NYC all the cams are stationary. If you run the V1G2 with two apps like V1 Driver & WASE it will do the job but to me that's a real pain. With a Max or Red Line 360c all you have to do is put it on you windshield & turn it on.

It's been my personal experience in NYC that the RL360c does a pretty good job at detecting MRCD/CT and most every time I've had that alert it's invariably a camera and not a false alert. You have to keep in mind that those cameras take photos in one direction at the rear plate. So I might get an alert and see that the camera is on the left side of the road and shooting opposing traffic so it's not an threat. Saying all that, it does false to MRC/CT occasionally and I know that because I'll get the alert while driving in another state where I know that they don't use those cameras.

Finally, as for Escort Live, I just noticed today that EL did not have a camera on the map while Waze did for a camera that was only a few blocks from my house on a path that I pass almost daily. And I'm religious about updating my defender database every week. They are literally adding new cameras every day, you really have to be careful here. I'll rarely run the RL360c without EL but when I do it's good to know that I'll at least get an alert from the camera's signal. Keep in mind that those cameras transmit a signal all the time but you're only tagged Mon-Fri from 6am to 10pm, inclusive of holidays and school summer break during these times. I disregard all alerts nights and weekends.

 

[Heywood]

I’m not sure what you guys might be facing, but I have not been able to pick up MRCD traps from, not one, but 2 other R360C’s running FW 1.4.
As for MRCT..... neither have been able to detect it either. Doesn’t matter the setting.

I have videos of the 2 different R360C’s blowing through a MRCD trap on different days, with no alert.
Could be that our MRCT stationary RLC’s might be a tad bit different.... but we have 2 types.
One type is identical to what’s been seen in the States

The other is something that’s new.

These are MRCT RLC’s.... and neither are detectable .... driving towards or driving past them with FW 1.4.

As for MRCD.... different animal... but neither R360C could not detect them. I wanted to make sure that it wasn’t a hardware issue. It’s not.

These are the MRCD Rigs.

I do have the videos of the 2 different R360C’s not picking them up. The first ones are in the testing section.... the other one was just fine a few days ago. I haven’t posted it... but I could.

That being said..... after what I seen with the M360C, I think they’ll get it figured out. I’m almost 99% sure it’s a FW issue.

 

[PointerCone]

New fw? Both came with 1.4 ..K narrow 1 2 and 3 are on tsr off as for the Ka falses I only remember 34.6xx the rest of the time I was looking for the threat which I never saw or heard on JBV1

You sure those alleged Ka false were Ka? 1/2/3 ON on K band will make the R360 nuts . Try K off with Ka 2/5/8 only ON. See if it's still falsing.

 

[Heywood]

You sure those alleged Ka false were Ka? 1/2/3 ON on K band will make the R360 nuts . Try K off with Ka 2/5/8 only ON. See if it's still falsing.

It does. I have mine seg’d to 2/5/8 and it’s been Ka falsing.
Here’s a small example

 

[PointerCone]

It does. I have mine seg’d to 2/5/8 and it’s been Ka falsing.
Here’s a small example

If you send it to ER, they're just going to say they adjusted antenna and everything else is fine . Sounds like a firmware issue. Thanks for the screen shots.

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I’m not sure what you guys might be facing, but I have not been able to pick up MRCD traps from, not one, but 2 other R360C’s running FW 1.4.
As for MRCT..... neither have been able to detect it either. Doesn’t matter the setting.

I have videos of the 2 different R360C’s blowing through a MRCD trap on different days, with no alert.
Could be that our MRCT stationary RLC’s might be a tad bit different.... but we have 2 types.
One type is identical to what’s been seen in the States
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The other is something that’s new.
View attachment 165688

These are MRCT RLC’s.... and neither are detectable .... driving towards or driving past them with FW 1.4.

As for MRCD.... different animal... but neither R360C could not detect them. I wanted to make sure that it wasn’t a hardware issue. It’s not.

These are the MRCD Rigs.
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I do have the videos of the 2 different R360C’s not picking them up. The first ones are in the testing section.... the other one was just fine a few days ago. I haven’t posted it... but I could.

That being said..... after what I seen with the M360C, I think they’ll get it figured out. I’m almost 99% sure it’s a FW issue.

I'll bet you my Pro A would pick them right up. However, it'll false everything else to death, like BSMs.

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I do not turn on the MRCD/CT in NY I don't have to. All the speed & red light cams are in the Escort data base that's all you need in NYC all the cams are stationary. If you run the V1G2 with two apps like V1 Driver & WASE it will do the job but to me that's a real pain. With a Max or Red Line 360c all you have to do is put it on you windshield & turn it on.

Are those fixed/stationary cameras marked on Waze as well?

 

[jerzboi]

You sure those alleged Ka false were Ka? 1/2/3 ON on K band will make the R360 nuts . Try K off with Ka 2/5/8 only ON. See if it's still falsing.

Thanks ,but as I said I'm done with Escort my R7 will arrive by the weekend and the RL360C will be sold

 

[westwind77]

It is crazy that they didn't put it in the App.

That would require them to update the app as well. I go back and forth, but I doubt the App is designed/updated 'in-house' so they that is just one extra cost for the company to pay.

 

[TonyPHX]

Old legacy technology is just that. . . .lipstick on a pig, no matter how many versions of XX.XXX.XX upgrades (lipstick).

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I agree, however those of us who have purchased Escort still have a desire to make it work right.

PS: You are coming off like a troll by bashing Escort in the Escort forum. I am sure that was not your intent. lol

 

[Smirnoff]

I agree, however those of us who have purchased Escort still have a desire to make it work right.

PS: You are coming off like a troll by bashing Escort in the Escort forum. I am sure that was not your intent. lol

Your are right & thanks, it was not my intent to single-out or bash any particular manufacturer. . . .every-time a new FW version is available across the RD brands, it most often negatively changes another feature or parameter. Shame on me for another 33-days or less.

 

[TonyPHX]

I’m not sure what you guys might be facing, but I have not been able to pick up MRCD traps from, not one, but 2 other R360C’s running FW 1.4.
As for MRCT..... neither have been able to detect it either. Doesn’t matter the setting.

I have videos of the 2 different R360C’s blowing through a MRCD trap on different days, with no alert.
Could be that our MRCT stationary RLC’s might be a tad bit different.... but we have 2 types.
One type is identical to what’s been seen in the States
View attachment 165687
View attachment 165689
The other is something that’s new.
View attachment 165688

These are MRCT RLC’s.... and neither are detectable .... driving towards or driving past them with FW 1.4.

As for MRCD.... different animal... but neither R360C could not detect them. I wanted to make sure that it wasn’t a hardware issue. It’s not.

These are the MRCD Rigs.
View attachment 165690
I do have the videos of the 2 different R360C’s not picking them up. The first ones are in the testing section.... the other one was just fine a few days ago. I haven’t posted it... but I could.

That being said..... after what I seen with the M360C, I think they’ll get it figured out. I’m almost 99% sure it’s a FW issue.

I hope you are right. Even though I am going to jump on the Theia train when it leaves the station, I still want the R360c to work right. Especially for what it cost.

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Your are right & thanks, it was not my intent to single-out or bash any particular manufacturer. . . .every-time a new FW version is available across the RD brands, it most often negatively changes another feature or parameter. Shame on me for another 33-days or less.

Well, you are right too - they have earned some bashing. I shouldn't be wagging my virtual finger lol. Cheers

 

[Bluelinex]

Again, this is false information. The V1G2 can detect MRCD/CT and speed cams fine. Of course, you have to go without filtering to get it. You don't need two phone apps for protection and never has. Now, without the K Verifier filtering turned on, it's noisy as all get out. But so is the RL360c with MRCD enabled.

Yes the V1G2 with all the filters turned off will detect MRCD/CT and also every door opener and car safety system with in 300ft of your car. This makes the V1 useless in that situation so to me it can not detect speed cams in a useful way, as for red light cams you still need WAZE. I'm sure Mike Valentine will fix the MRCD/CT but for right now you can get Uniden or Escort detector that will cover you for as low as $300 all the way up to $750. If you don't need this type of detection great. For red light cams you will always need WAZE , I run an I phone with V1Driver works great. I don't know about android users.