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[Vancity23]

@jerzboi, I feel your pain having had issues with my Max360c. Hopefully Escort has some future firmware updates on the horizon which hopefully will address some of your concerns and issues that you and some other people are experiencing.

I know the Max360c is a different Escort detector, but I have to segment my Max360c on Ka to minimize the Ka false alarms. Segmented, my Max360c doesn’t false very often on Ka, but when I run the entire Ka band on, Ka false alarms do occur more frequently.

I just got my Max360c back from being serviced for the third time in early October, and my detector still has the random and non frequent sleeping issue where it stops picking up radar at sometime during the power cycle, and it won’t alert to radar again until power cycled.

It is frustrating when you spend top dollar on a high end radar detector, and it doesn’t meet your expectations. Now I do like my Max360c when it is working properly which is 98-99 percent of the time, but the sleeping issue is significant if it leads to a ticket. I will no longer use my Max360c outside of city driving.

On the RL360c, it definitely sounds like there have been some improvements over the original firmware, but it seems like a lot of people including yourself have some issues on your RL360c that need to be addressed. As I mentioned above, I think a firmware update is on the horizon, and you have a very capable R7 to use for a while. For me, I have my V1G2 which is now my primary detector.

It is a shame when you spend $700-$900 on a product and you don’t feel comfortable using it, or it isn’t performing as expected. I thought about getting an RL360c, but I need to get my Max360c working properly and sell it before I will even consider buying a RL360c. Good Luck!!


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Serviced for the 3rd time...

 

[spanky]

Im a fan of Escort if for no other reason than the Redline /O (3) / Be;tronics Mag STI (2) models which I have owned along with other Escort models and used since way to long ago to remember exactly when (83/84). I currently own and use each model today.
I wish the RL 360 rollout had gone smoother but it didnt. My 1st unit which was ordered on 6/9 was a dud, it was replaced. That said Escort stepped up and corrected the problem in a timely manner. The CS problems need to be weighed with the Covid 19 shutdown as a back drop. Its damm hard to bring a new product to market from your living room. With more FW updated coming I dont think I will be switching brands anytime soon as I expect the RL 360 to become even better.

 

[jerzboi]

@jerzboi the K-Notch option is only available in the detector settings itself, not through the app. That makes the ride much quieter for BSM. @Vortex has a video and articles on his website to get to that option in the detector itself. I have had great luck with mine, so sorry to hear you are having issues

Thanks I actually enabled the K Notch filter this morning and will see what happens while I think about weather I'm going back to the R7 or buy th V1G2

 

[DC Fluid]

I'm not here to bash Escort, as I have been a big fan for decades.
But here is an observation I've noted in my testing, that relates to real world usability.

Any filtering on the Max series, especially Auto Mode, can reduce K band noise.
However when it decides to alert when the level threshold is passed, you get a big blast, scaring you.
You can watch the signal meter start to rise to say for example, half bars, then boom, tilt alert when level rises to alert threshhold.
In contrast, the Uniden (R7 for example) when you add filters, and reduce sensitivity levels, say 30% or City, it acts just like you actually reduced sensitivity. When you pass that alert threshold level, it starts with a 1 bar warning and slowly ramps up as signal strength increases. This is how it should be done.
Not the Escort way of holding back and then jolting you with a major alert all at once.
This has been the way they've done it for years, and I assume they believe that's the way it should be.
Don't expect it to change through firmware updates.
The Uniden R series has developed a trust with it's users by being consistent and predictable.
You can easily determine the threat level and adjust accordingly.
Better filtering is not always welcome if it comes with a big "Surprise" alert every so often.

 

[SilenceDogoodNinja]

Thanks I actually enabled the K Notch filter this morning and will see what happens while I think about weather I'm going back to the R7 or buy th V1G2

Ok! I certainly wouldn't discourage you from the other two detectors either as I own all 3 and love them for different reasons. I find the R360C the quietest and range as good as others. I love the "cockpit technology" of JBV1 and the V1G2 together as perfect package. I also like the R7 for the simplicity when I don't feel like using a phone or internet, just drive rural routes with range.

 

[fishing66]

@jerzboi,

I just got my Max360c back from being serviced for the third time in early October, and my detector still has the random and non frequent sleeping issue where it stops picking up radar at sometime during the power cycle, and it won’t alert to radar again until power cycled.


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[Smirnoff]

Old legacy technology is just that. . . .lipstick on a pig, no matter how many versions of XX.XXX.XX upgrades (lipstick).

 

[L4D44]

Old legacy technology is just that. . . .lipstick on a pig, no matter how many versions of XX.XXX.XX upgrades (lipstick).

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Theia still slated to be released in 2020?

 

[Vancity23]

Yes it is, have you not been reading what Radenso has always said?

 

[natedog7700]

If i were you, I'd hold out for Theia.

V1 G2 is a great detector dont get me wrong, but Theia will be on a whole different level.

 

[jerzboi]

@jerzboi sorry to hear that your experience with the RL360C has not been what it should have been for a top tier RD. I own both the RL360C and the R7 and my experience has been much better with the RL360C. Whenever I drive my car with the R7 I’m reminded just how disappointed I am with it’s BSM filtering compared to the RL360C. The R7 is just way too noisy even with the latest firmware update.

Hopefully, @JSherbondy will be posting an update on the firmware release for the RL360C soon that will make it perform better where it is lacking and allow you to feel comfortable using it again

If i were you, I'd hold out for Theia.

V1 G2 is a great detector dont get me wrong, but Theia will be on a whole different level.

I thought this was going to be on a whole different level....Not !

We didn’t raise the bar. We shut it down. Introducing the Redline 360c, the new technical standard for driver alert systems. 2X the range. 360° directional awareness. 100% stealth. Get ready to REDefine the road

 

[Vancity23]

Escort sure knows how to spin marketing words,

 

[Bluelinex]

Why not give the V1 Gen2 a try? I got rid of my R7 for it and have been very happy.

As good as the V1G2 is, its useless against MRCD/CT and red light and speed cams. To get all the features you have to run Two apps on your phone at the same time. In NJ its a great detector go into NY and it needs two phone apps to protect you. If you don't need that then you can run it all the time. It sits in my garage when I go into NY.

 

[Rags]

As good as the V1G2 is, its useless against MRCD/CT and red light and speed cams. To get all the features you have to run Two apps on your phone at the same time. In NJ its a great detector go into NY and it needs two phone apps to protect you. If you don't need that then you can run it all the time. It sits in my garage when I go into NY.

Again, this is false information. The V1G2 can detect MRCD/CT and speed cams fine. Of course, you have to go without filtering to get it. You don't need two phone apps for protection and never has. Now, without the K Verifier filtering turned on, it's noisy as all get out. But so is the RL360c with MRCD enabled.

 

[Heywood]

Again, this is false information. The V1G2 can detect MRCD/CT and speed cams fine. Of course, you have to go without filtering to get it. You don't need two phone apps for protection and never has. Now, without the K Verifier filtering turned on, it's noisy as all get out. But so is the RL360c with MRCD enabled.

This statement of the V1G2 being able to detect MRCD/MRCT just fine .... where are you getting that information from? Got any links? Any test results? Comparison tests?

You made the statement..... now please back it up. I want to see it. Before you start labeling things as “False Information”.

Also the noise being elevated on the R360C with MRCD/MRCT activated is also false. It’s not. I’ve found it made no difference.

The only 2 issues I found with the R360C, on the current FW, was MRCD/MRCT detection wasn’t working, and excessive Ka false’s out of the blue.

 

[Bluelinex]

Again, this is false information. The V1G2 can detect MRCD/CT and speed cams fine. Of course, you have to go without filtering to get it. You don't need two phone apps for protection and never has. Now, without the K Verifier filtering turned on, it's noisy as all get out. But so is the RL360c with MRCD enabled.

I know it can detect low powered K band with all the filters turned off. That will drive me nuts. I want a detector to be quiet until it sees a real signal. Ware I live the detector will be going off every 2 or 3 minutes in A mode. Every area is different, it may not be bad for you in A mode if so that's great. It 's not that way here, in NY City & northern NJ shore.

 

[Rags]

I know it can detect low powered K band with all the filters turned off. That will drive me nuts. I want a detector to be quiet until it sees a real signal. Ware I live the detector will be going off every 2 or 3 minutes in A mode. Every area is different, it may not be bad for you in A mode if so that's great. It 's not that way here, in NY City & northern NJ shore.

So quit lying and saying it can't do those things. Also quit pretending the situation is different with the RL360C, as when you turn MRCD on with it, it's actually noisier than the V1G2 (or V1G1 for that matter).

Now if you want to claim the RL360C gives a tad more distance with MRCD, you have a valid argument.

 

[DC Fluid]

So quit lying and saying it can't do those things. Also quit pretending the situation is different with the RL360C, as when you turn MRCD on with it, it's actually noisier than the V1G2 (or V1G1 for that matter).

Now if you want to claim the RL360C gives a tad more distance with MRCD, you have a valid argument.

So, when the V1G2 detects MRCD, does it have some alert that tells the user it's MRCD? Or just a K band signal? How do you tell the difference and not lock it out a a false?

See the post 2 up from @Heywood . He knows his stuff.
If he claims the RL360c is NOT noisier with MRCD on, what experience or evidence do have you that it is?

 

[Rags]

So, when the V1G2 detects MRCD, does it have some alert that tells the user it's MRCD? Or just a K band signal? How do you tell the difference and not lock it out a a false?

See the post 2 up from @Heywood . He knows his stuff.
If he claims the RL360c is NOT noisier with MRCD on, what experience or evidence do have you that it is?

Literally thousands of miles of driving. If he claims it's not noisier, then he has one special unit.

And you are correct, there is no individual warning for MRCD on the V1, but when you are driving with the RL360C and you keep getting MRCD alerts for non MRCD signals, you start to ignore it. In fact, in my case, I just turned MRCD off (and I don't drive with KV off on my V1G2 either for the same reason)

 

[Heywood]

@DC Fluid
There is no separate alert. It’s all K band.
It’s not usable with no real usable range.

It’s not tested because it’s not usable. It’s never claimed to be either.

@Rags
Show me this MRCD falsing? It doesn’t.
Btw. It’s not just 1 unit. It’s 3 different R360C’s.

One that was from @Vortex, which I returned, and 2 ....I have right now.

None of the 3 react as you claim. The only MRCD falsing I seen was on the M360C last December.