RL360c down - M360 back up

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Last night I removed my RL360c permanent mount and put back my M360. As much as I want to like the RL360c, IMO, it still needs further refinement for it to be 'permanent' again.

Ramp Up - there is very little, it is very aggressive

Arrows/Signal Detection - When in Spec mode the unit will pick up a strong signal from the front and, as you get closer, will not accurately show growing signal strength from the rear. Passing the source at times will result in the unit almost losing the alert before suddenly going back to full (at times a longer duration for this to happen). The M360 accomplishes this flawlessly over and over without having the issue mentioned above.

Reaction Time - Dismal is the only word I have for that given this RD was released in 2020 and is their flagship unit.

I look forward to Escort (hopefully) addressing the issues above. When I set the M360 mount back up I used the 3M Dual Lock this time and set it up so I can put the RL360c back up rather easily should they address the issues in short order or if I want to test/compare the units.

The V1G2 is still on the blendmount and will not be going anywhere.
 

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Dual Lock was a great choice. I have a 3x3 square roughly top left of the mirror so I can swap. Using permanent mounts makes it that much easier. I have no experience with the RL360c but thought it was doing better since the previous firmware update was completed. Interesting to read otherwise.
 

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Dual Lock was a great choice. I have a 3x3 square roughly top left of the mirror so I can swap. Using permanent mounts makes it that much easier. I have no experience with the RL360c but thought it was doing better since the previous firmware update was completed. Interesting to read otherwise.

I did not own the unit with the prior firmware so I cannot compare, but as you said, people did say there was a significant improvement. I can only speak to my usage on the current firmware and compare it to the M360 to keep it in the Escort family. The M360 was as close to perfect as Escort could get (just lacking the sensitivity that newer competitors have), but instead of working off of that platform and increasing sensitivity they went a new route. Unfortunately, there are some issues that still need to be worked out - at least in my opinion. I'm sure others can look past some of this and be satisfied, but for $750 a 6 year old RD should not be able to filter as well (or a bit better IMO) yet alert/react much quicker than the newer unit.

I know the M360 had a fair share of issues when it was released and it took them a bit to finally straighten them all out, but the result is a very solid unit. Not to mention that Escort is still improving the unit by continuing to add features, which is great.

Like I said, I'm hoping Escort can fine tune this RL360c like they did the M360 (crossing my fingers they start with the reactivity!)
 

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@westwind77 according to @JSherbondy Escort is working on updates for the RL360C. On a post dated 21 Oct 2020, he said they "may do a couple of releases - one in the near term (weeks) and one longer term ( a couple of months)". Here's hoping the first one addresses the issues that caused you to take your RL360C down and makes you want to put it back up again.
 

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@westwind77 according to @JSherbondy Escort is working on updates for the RL360C. On a post dated 21 Oct 2020, he said they "may do a couple of releases - one in the near term (weeks) and one longer term ( a couple of months)". Here's hoping the first one addresses the issues that caused you to take your RL360C down and makes you want to put it back up again.
I have spoken to Escort in regard to the matters I mentioned in detail, they were very responsive and expressed genuine interest in my comments/concerns. I do have faith they will continue to improve the units performance.....that is why I used the Dual Lock and not the 3M adhesive tape :) Until then the M360 will be my eyes when the G2 is taking a break.
 

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Last night I removed my RL360c permanent mount and put back my M360. As much as I want to like the RL360c, IMO, it still needs further refinement for it to be 'permanent' again.

Ramp Up - there is very little, it is very aggressive

Arrows/Signal Detection - When in Spec mode the unit will pick up a strong signal from the front and, as you get closer, will not accurately show growing signal strength from the rear. Passing the source at times will result in the unit almost losing the alert before suddenly going back to full (at times a longer duration for this to happen). The M360 accomplishes this flawlessly over and over without having the issue mentioned above.

Reaction Time - Dismal is the only word I have for that given this RD was released in 2020 and is their flagship unit.

I look forward to Escort (hopefully) addressing the issues above. When I set the M360 mount back up I used the 3M Dual Lock this time and set it up so I can put the RL360c back up rather easily should they address the issues in short order or if I want to test/compare the units.

The V1G2 is still on the blendmount and will not be going anywhere.
I have noticed the same issues with my RL 360c. I purchased it when it first came out. I was going to return my detector and when I called them they gave me a new 30 day money back window so that they could fix all of the problems. This detector is still my favorite but it's not as fast as my Max 360c. I sold the Max to help pay for the Red Line but in many ways the Max is just a little better except for the range. Hopefully they will fix the shortcomings the RedLine has.
 

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@westwind77 according to @JSherbondy Escort is working on updates for the RL360C. On a post dated 21 Oct 2020, he said they "may do a couple of releases - one in the near term (weeks) and one longer term ( a couple of months)". Here's hoping the first one addresses the issues that caused you to take your RL360C down and makes you want to put it back up again.
Two weeks.
 

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@westwind77 according to @JSherbondy Escort is working on updates for the RL360C. On a post dated 21 Oct 2020, he said they "may do a couple of releases - one in the near term (weeks) and one longer term ( a couple of months)". Here's hoping the first one addresses the issues that caused you to take your RL360C down and makes you want to put it back up again.

I don't want to be Debbie Downer, however, Escort has a dismal record of following through on promised updates particuarly when they are non-emergent. RDF figurately threw a Molotov Cocktail about the disfuctional state of the RL360 when it was released including a hysterical parody video. Escort quickly responded and sent two VIPs to post here because the launch of the product was in jeopardy. Now that it has been on the market for a while and the holidays are approching, their focus is on selling new Rl360 units, not servicing existing ones. Non-enthusiasts will have no clue about slow reaction time. They have the flagship product from Escort on their windshield and that's good enough. Escort has gone so far as to say "We are releasing an update to fix XYZ" n multiple units/issues and they never materialize. "May do a couple of releases"....that is hardly a commitment.

I don't own a V1 but they are an example of a company that supports existing product: users were concerned about lazy IO ramp-up and Valentine put out a firmware update that fixed the problem. This was the second firmware update they put out post-release and they are a small company.

Escort is probably working on the next unit so they can sell more stuff. Devoting time and money to serve existing customers is not a priority of their private equity owners.
 

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I don't want to be Debbie Downer, however, Escort has a dismal record of following through on promised updates particuarly when they are non-emergent. RDF figurately threw a Molotov Cocktail about the disfuctional state of the RL360 when it was released including a hysterical parody video. Escort quickly responded and sent two VIPs to post here because the launch of the product was in jeopardy. Now that it has been on the market for a while and the holidays are approching, their focus is on selling new Rl360 units, not servicing existing ones. Non-enthusiasts will have no clue about slow reaction time. They have the flagship product from Escort on their windshield and that's good enough. Escort has gone so far as to say "We are releasing an update to fix XYZ" n multiple units/issues and they never materialize. "May do a couple of releases"....that is hardly a commitment.

I don't own a V1 but they are an example of a company that supports existing product: users were concerned about lazy IO ramp-up and Valentine put out a firmware update that fixed the problem. This was the second firmware update they put out post-release and they are a small company.

Escort is probably working on the next unit so they can sell more stuff. Devoting time and money to serve existing customers is not a priority of their private equity owners.

@fishing66 I understand where you're coming from. However, recently they've turned their customer service around (as evidenced by all of the positive reports from users). This is without question a major step in the right direction. One could also argue that under the leadership of @GailFromCedar and the feedback we received from @JSherbondy that Escort is also working to provide better product support/continued product improvements

Additionally, it's still within the "weeks" that @JSherbondy mentioned and we can't forget the fact that he said that they "may do a couple of releases". The caveat is of course that they may actually only do one big release (vice breaking them up) and then we're back to a couple of months. ;)

Hopefully, they're far enough along now that @JSherbondy can provide us with an update as to what their current update plans are for the RL360C.
 
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I don't want to be Debbie Downer, however, Escort has a dismal record of following through on promised updates particuarly when they are non-emergent. RDF figurately threw a Molotov Cocktail about the disfuctional state of the RL360 when it was released including a hysterical parody video. Escort quickly responded and sent two VIPs to post here because the launch of the product was in jeopardy. Now that it has been on the market for a while and the holidays are approching, their focus is on selling new Rl360 units, not servicing existing ones. Non-enthusiasts will have no clue about slow reaction time. They have the flagship product from Escort on their windshield and that's good enough. Escort has gone so far as to say "We are releasing an update to fix XYZ" n multiple units/issues and they never materialize. "May do a couple of releases"....that is hardly a commitment.

I don't own a V1 but they are an example of a company that supports existing product: users were concerned about lazy IO ramp-up and Valentine put out a firmware update that fixed the problem. This was the second firmware update they put out post-release and they are a small company.

Escort is probably working on the next unit so they can sell more stuff. Devoting time and money to serve existing customers is not a priority of their private equity owners.

yeah, well there is no shortage of things to parody. : ) They better get on it.
 

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