AL Priority vs TMG

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Hi All,

I am deciding between TMG and AL priority. I want to know if its better and go all out on the ALP or having TMG will suffice? Also do you think its recommended to have rear sensors? I know having the full protection would be nice but do police really shoot you in the rear?
 

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Depends on whether or not Dragoneye LIDAR is used in your area.

If it is, ALP will protect you where TMG does not.

Rear LIDAR shots are usually pretty rare IMO. One large exception is if a local police force utilizes photo LIDAR - in which case rear sensors are very much worthwhile.
 

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Location, location, location.

Where you live and where you drive completely decides what you should do.

If you face DE, safer to invest in an ALP System, while if you see easier guns, you can save some money and get set up with TMG.
 

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Florida is a real mixed bag of lidar guns and at this point in time ALP has the best coverage of all guns as they have been consistently in the laser game in the US since 2013. TMG does well agains thte guns they have seen but there are some varients they are still working on improving coverage for in the LTI line as well as dragoneye/laser ally. There is some dragoneye out there in FL, it's not everywhere but its been seen in Boca Raton for sure in this corner of the state, and I'm sure it's scattered other places, Stalker XLR, Laser atlanta, Prolaser4, Truspeed and truspeed S are very common. Personally I went with ALP and I have been very happy with them, I like not worrying about if the system can handle the gun should I get hit when I'm over the limit by a larger margin. Here are the results from last winters meetup: https://www.rdforum.org/threads/95389/ most ALP setups we were able to get dialed in to get really solid results. TMG is a decent second option, even the escort shifters are ok.

As far as rear heads, rear shots are not super common around south florida, but it does happen from time to time. There is a spot on the turnpike near i595 with a left entrance ramp that is known for rear lidar, a couple folks here have been hit there (and the one without rear heads got a ticket). I have seen it once in the west palm area on a local highway from the shoulder in an unmarked vehicle, it was really obviously a cop but yet he was still grabbing folks with rear shots repeatedly. What I would say is with the low frequency of rear shots you could go with fewer heads on the back and be ok for most encounters, you are not likely to see rear dragoneye in south florida at all so depending on your car a single head or at most two RX should do ok on the back should you want to have some coverage there, it's 90% front shots though. On the front I would do at least two rx heads. Do 3 rx or 2 rx + 1 TX if you want to have solid dragoneye coverage. The nice thing is that you can always start with just a couple heads up front and then add more heads for the front/rear down the road. I started with two RX heads up front and built from there, I typically run 3 heads front / 2 rear just for my own comfort. When I travel to GA I add on a spare head to have 3 heads front and rear as they do a lot more rear shots and they do have a bit of dragoneye
 
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Depends on where one lives for both DE and rear shots. As an example if one drives I-75 in south Georgia often than DE isn't that big a deal, but bet you butt one better have front and rear. In Atlanta better have front and rear or one can't believe one is protected. Yes, rear shots are way less common, but in areas where they like using them, they really use them.

Another place they love rear shots is on TN153 in Chattanooga in the area of the Shallowford Road (that intersection and the bridges over TN153 before and after. Like I said they LOVE that area. The last 6 runs through there I was hit with Lidar 5 times and Ka I/O once, LEO loves that area (or they are specifically trying to get me).

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Florida is a real mixed bag of lidar guns and at this point in time ALP has the best coverage of all guns as they have been consistently in the laser game in the US since 2013. TMG does well agains thte guns they have seen but there are some varients they are still working on improving coverage for in the LTI line as well as dragoneye/laser ally. There is some dragoneye out there in FL, it's not everywhere but its been seen in Boca Raton for sure in this corner of the state, and I'm sure it's scattered other places, Stalker XLR, Laser atlanta, Prolaser4, Truspeed and truspeed S are very common. Personally I went with ALP and I have been very happy with them, I like not worrying about if the system can handle the gun should I get hit when I'm over the limit by a larger margin. Here are the results from last winters meetup: https://www.rdforum.org/threads/95389/ most ALP setups we were able to get dialed in to get really solid results. TMG is a decent second option, even the escort shifters are ok.

As far as rear heads, rear shots are not super common around south florida, but it does happen from time to time. There is a spot on the turnpike near i595 with a left entrance ramp that is known for rear lidar, a couple folks here have been hit there (and the one without rear heads got a ticket). I have seen it once in the west palm area on a local highway from the shoulder in an unmarked vehicle, it was really obviously a cop but yet he was still grabbing folks with rear shots repeatedly. What I would say is with the low frequency of rear shots you could go with fewer heads on the back and be ok for most encounters, you are not likely to see rear dragoneye in south florida at all so depending on your car a single head or at most two RX should do ok on the back should you want to have some coverage there, it's 90% front shots though. On the front I would do at least two rx heads. Do 3 rx or 2 rx + 1 TX if you want to have solid dragoneye coverage. The nice thing is that you can always start with just a couple heads up front and then add more heads for the front/rear down the road. I started with two RX heads up front and built from there, I typically run 3 heads front / 2 rear just for my own comfort. When I travel to GA I add on a spare head to have 3 heads front and rear as they do a lot more rear shots and they do have a bit of dragoneye
Thanks Everyone. Update: located in Florida

thebravo,
not sure if 1 rx head in the rear is enough, just crazy for 250 a piece for a sensor. I am pretty sure the overhead profit on that is huge but if it works, it works. Probably just go all in, for 2 rx + 1 tx in the front and 2 rx in the rear.
 

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Depends on whether or not Dragoneye LIDAR is used in your area.

If it is, ALP will protect you where TMG does not.

Rear LIDAR shots are usually pretty rare IMO. One large exception is if a local police force utilizes photo LIDAR - in which case rear sensors are very much worthwhile.
Not entirely true, Tmg is ok on some DE guns depends on the gun, gun type, level, and FW etc.
 

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Depends on where one lives for both DE and rear shots. As an example if one drives I-75 in south Georgia often than DE isn't that big a deal, but bet you butt one better have front and rear. In Atlanta better have front and rear or one can't believe one is protected. Yes, rear shots are way less common, but in areas where they like using them, they really use them.

Another place they love rear shots is on TN153 in Chattanooga in the area of the Shallowford Road (that intersection and the bridges over TN153 before and after. Like I said they LOVE that area. The last 6 runs through there I was hit with Lidar 5 times and Ka I/O once, LEO loves that area (or they are specifically trying to get me).

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Thanks for the heads up on TN153. They are out to get YOU. Good news- if you're in the vehicle I saw they won't see you coming. Unless you're way fast. I love cool cars but there's a lot of value in blending in if you're a leadfoot.

To the OP- I have both and prefer ALP for its performance against the DE. But I like the TMG control better for the way it integrates with the V1G2/JBV1.
 
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Hi All,

I am deciding between TMG and AL priority. I want to know if its better and go all out on the ALP or having TMG will suffice? Also do you think its recommended to have rear sensors? I know having the full protection would be nice but do police really shoot you in the rear?

Hi All,

I am deciding between TMG and AL priority. I want to know if its better and go all out on the ALP or having TMG will suffice? Also do you think its recommended to have rear sensors? I know having the full protection would be nice but do police really shoot you in the rear?

Idk where in fl you are located but I’m in swfl Lee County area and they have, and use the dragon... mostly FHP...


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Thanks Everyone. Update: located in Florida

thebravo,
not sure if 1 rx head in the rear is enough, just crazy for 250 a piece for a sensor. I am pretty sure the overhead profit on that is huge but if it works, it works. Probably just go all in, for 2 rx + 1 tx in the front and 2 rx in the rear.
One is definitly not the optimum solution but for limited hits it can be OK, I'd never recommend one on the front of a car, but with limited rear hits one can hold it's own as long as it's not a huge car. I tested the different head configurations with a small sampling of guns just to see against guns well known to all companies how the coverage was (it doesn't indicate their ability across all variants) https://www.rdforum.org/threads/94350/ and one head did surprisingly well, again I would never recommend it up front as it was weaker than desired, but if looking to save some cash on the back it's a place to start until funds for moe heads are available. The configuration you mentioned going with is very solid and should cover you very well against all FL has to throw at you right now (and the piece of mind is really nice too) :)
 

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Hi All,

I am deciding between TMG and AL priority. I want to know if its better and go all out on the ALP or having TMG will suffice? Also do you think its recommended to have rear sensors? I know having the full protection would be nice but do police really shoot you in the rear?
I have owned both and personally prefer the ALP. I really prefer the user interface, how alerts are presented, and how reliable the system is at staying on top of future threats. I found the TMG was very easy and forgiving to install, but the all in one package was cumbersome (having to mount the CPU in a fairly obvious place to make it easy to kill) and the alert presentation is inferior (not getting the Gun ID unless you let the alert play out for the AutoKill). You can also take a look at performance comparison results for different setups here, here, and here.

Between the two, I would personally recommend ALP. It's not cheap, but neither is a lidar ticket. It's better to pay up front for the best protection.
 

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As @thebravo said, DE can be found out there in FL. In addition to his area it's very popular in Clay County and Duval County (both of which are located in NE Florida).
 

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Idk where in fl you are located but I’m in swfl Lee County area and they have, and use the dragon... mostly FHP...


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@thebravo here's your report of FHP using DE. We know that it's been on their authorized purchase list, but know you know where. Who knows, maybe SW FL is where they're testing it out? OBTW, Troop F is the FHP unit in that area.
 

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The TMG is alright if you're on a budget and can work fine against many different guns, plus I really like its integrated BT without requiring you to buy additional accessories, as well as its JBV1 integration if you're running Android and a V1 Gen2, but personally I'd recommend the ALP nonetheless. It does cost more, yes, but IMHO the added protection, increased head sensitivity, and continued updates I do think are worth it. AntiLaser also does a better job of obtaining new guns to ensure they stay up to date over time.

Additionally, given that laser jammers are much more involved to install and more difficult to swap out, I think it's worth investing in the ALP if you had to choose.

Neither jammer is perfect, but big picture the ALP is gonna do a better job of keeping you protected which is the whole point.

That said, I'm really glad we've got more options (ALP, TMG, Escort, TPX, Stinger) because the added competition helps encourage each company to innovate and improve which results in better jammers for us. :)
 

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I have owned both and personally prefer the ALP. I really prefer the user interface, how alerts are presented, and how reliable the system is at staying on top of future threats. I found the TMG was very easy and forgiving to install, but the all in one package was cumbersome (having to mount the CPU in a fairly obvious place to make it easy to kill) and the alert presentation is inferior (not getting the Gun ID unless you let the alert play out for the AutoKill).
Good points and I agree. The TMG is easier to install with its all-in-one setup which also helps with installation costs and difficulty (including if you DIY the install), but some of the interface stuff is annoying like you mentioned. I'm also not a fan of the "system on" voice announcement at startup you can't disable, the quieter speaker compared to the ALP HiFi module, and the fact that you have to get a pin to press the small button to update the control set.

To be fair, I've got my complaints with the ALP's interface too, but that's primarily if you integrate the Net Radar DSP and the compromises when you add in radar. When you stick with just laser, you've got additional nice touches like different profiles to easily switch between, pro mode to make it easier to tell when you're being shot or not vs picking up scatter, alert logging built in, and a lot of nice little touches.

Laser jamming performance usually gets the most attention, and justifiably so, and after testing the ALP and TMG head to head I have more confidence in the ALP, but there's differences even looking at the other aspects too.

On a related note, it also looks like my TMG CPU doesn't power on anymore. I'm not sure why, but it looks dead. So reliability-wise, that's another data point.
 
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Thanks for the heads up on TN153. They are out to get YOU. Good news- if you're in the vehicle I saw they won't see you coming. Unless you're way fast. I love cool cars but there's a lot of value in blending in if you're a leadfoot.
@Vortex made good points about installation ease. ALP requires extra modules for BT, GPS, etc. TMG is one box plus however many heads you opt for. Also, the ALP head connectors are significantly larger than TMG. When I recently installed my rear ALP heads I used a 5/8" drill bit, wallowed it out, and still barely got the third one through. That's a larger hole than some people want to drill in certain vehicles. The TMG head connectors are <3/8". A half inch hole will do for 3 heads.

Again, installation is easier with TMG but I agree with @Vortex and others that ALP is the answer if you want that last bit of performance against every gun. For the PL3s and Stalkers my old beater sometimes sees I feel confident in the TMG setup.
 
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Idk where in fl you are located but I’m in swfl Lee County area and they have, and use the dragon... mostly FHP...


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I'm not surprised, like I said DE is in some areas, over here FHP is all laser atlanta, and maybe the occasional stalker, pl3 or truspeed. But in the dozen or so FHP laser hits I have taken it's always been laser atlanta. The locals are a mix of everything, though still no DE... Mostly XLR. There is also DE up around jacksonville, good to know sw Florida has it as well. I have a DE capable setup, but have yet to encounter it in the wild in south east fl, though I'm rarely much further south than west palm beach. It's such a mixed bag, that I generally recommend at least a DE capable front setup cause you just never really know down here.
 

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Thanks Everyone. Update: located in Florida

thebravo,
not sure if 1 rx head in the rear is enough, just crazy for 250 a piece for a sensor. I am pretty sure the overhead profit on that is huge but if it works, it works. Probably just go all in, for 2 rx + 1 tx in the front and 2 rx in the rear.
You can save some bucks by running ALPs FR and TMG Rear. If money's a concern, Just a thought.

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@Vortex made good points about installation ease. ALP requires extra modules for BT, GPS, etc. TMG is one box plus however many heads you opt for. Also, the ALP head connectors are significantly larger than TMG. When I recently installed my rear ALP heads I used a 5/8" drill bit, wallowed it out, and still barely got the third one through. That's a larger hole than some people want to drill in certain vehicles. The TMG head connectors are <3/8". A half inch hole will do for 3 heads.

Again, installation is easier with TMG but I agree with @Vortex and others that ALP is the answer if you want that last bit of performance against every gun. For the PL3s and Stalkers my old beater sometimes sees I feel confident in the TMG setup.
Well said, I had a video about this and went over most of that. Unfortunately I'm job hunting and a video tied to my page involving Laser Jammers isnt great.
 

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