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I have an Escort Max ii. I bought it new and have had it since it came out. I got my first ticket in 10 years yesterday.

I’m not sure what happened. It was in town, Sioux Falls, SD. Cops said it was a speed trap. I didn’t notice the detector going off, so I’m confused. It makes me wonder if I need a newer RD? If so, what should I get?
 

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Most likely they were using lidar, which radar detectors don't always pick up. You might need to look into something like TMG or ALP if you want to protect against that. I've been finding lidar is getting to be really popular where I live.
 

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Could have been several things, could have been laser/rear laser, which are often missed by radar detectors due to narrow beam size.. Could have been pacing or vascar/aircraft vascar. Radar detectors are only good for radar, so presuming your is still functioning correctly and detecting radar and you haven't turned off any bands or segments that you shouldn't have it probably wasn't radar. take a look on the ticket and see what they put for info, you can post a redacted image of the ticket here with name and location blanked out and we can see if we can tell what they used.
 

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I have an Escort Max ii. I bought it new and have had it since it came out. I got my first ticket in 10 years yesterday.

I’m not sure what happened. It was in town, Sioux Falls, SD. Cops said it was a speed trap. I didn’t notice the detector going off, so I’m confused. It makes me wonder if I need a newer RD? If so, what should I get?

A lot of "speed traps" nowadays are a LEO high on a bridge shooting radar as you pass and radioing ahead your color, make and model for the LEO sitting on the shoulder who then pulls behind you to pull you over. The Max II doesn't have a rear horn so you wouldn't have been alerted if this was the case.
 

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...The Max II doesn't have a rear horn so you wouldn't have been alerted if this was the case.
I beg to differ on that part.
All other things being equal (if it's a signal the detector is able to alert to at all) - would still be alerted. Just wouldn't know whether the signal is coming from the back or from the front.
 

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Usually if it's a multiple cop speed trap and they're shooting from an overpass it's going to be lidar.
If it was radar, front or rear you would pick it up unless they're using something you segmented out or out of range from the radar detector (unlikely).

If it was lidar, front or rear, you may not have gotten a laser alert - it's just luck of the draw. In my past experiences with escort detectors though they do have pretty good laser detection compared to Uniden's detectors.
 

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A lot of "speed traps" nowadays are a LEO high on a bridge shooting radar as you pass and radioing ahead your color, make and model for the LEO sitting on the shoulder who then pulls behind you to pull you over. The Max II doesn't have a rear horn so you wouldn't have been alerted if this was the case.
That max II has very good pickup from Forward Facing radar, some of the tests have shown that it is one of the better detectors for picking signals up from behind, there were a few tests done driving away from the source for the fun of it. They are in the testing section a few years back.

When you get hit with FF radar after the source and the gun can get a reading, almost any decent detector will alert, unless you are towing a trailer - and even then most of the detectors will alert from the signal bouncing back from in front.
 

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Could of very well been instant on radar where they simply toggle the unit on and off
My vote is lidar though
 

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@DM4Life like @thebravo said when you get a chance please take a look on the ticket and see what they put down for info and share that information here.

Or if you would prefer (and as @thebravo also said), you could post a redacted image of the ticket here with your name and address blacked/blanked out and then we can see if we can tell what they used.
 

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on long trips like 1 hour or more. i always use it with Waze.
But, why? Do you no have an active subscription to Escort Live? I mean it’s pretty much the same as Waze, but by comparison we’ve found Escort Live is much more accurate!
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I beg to differ on that part.
All other things being equal (if it's a signal the detector is able to alert to at all) - would still be alerted. Just wouldn't know whether the signal is coming from the back or from the front.
I am in face correct and this I even in the product detail on escortradar.com and even radarbusters.com.
 
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But, why? Do you no have an active subscription to Escort Live? I mean it’s pretty much the same as Waze, but by comparison we’ve found Escort Live is much more accurate!
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I am in face correct and this I even in the product detail on escortradar.com and even radarbusters.com.
I believe this statement would fail even the Turing test.
I believe this statement would fail even the Turing test.
Please, elaborate. It’s seems your Anne’s user and happen to be just trolling our board. Am I right or wrong?
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I believe this statement would fail even the Turing test.
What? Do you even know what the Turing Test is or about? You may want to read up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
 
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I believe this statement would fail even the Turing test.
What? Do you even know what the Turing Test is or about? You may want to read up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
Please, elaborate. It’s seems your Anne’s user and happen to be just trolling our board. Am I right or wrong?
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What? Do you even know what the Turing Test is or about? You may want to read up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
*answer
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But, why? Do you no have an active subscription to Escort Live? I mean it’s pretty much the same as Waze, but by comparison we’ve found Escort Live is much more accurate!

W.H.A.T.? And who is we? The forum knows Waze is far superior to EL as the user base is so much greater.

Sadly, Escort Live pales in comparison to Waze. In the Northeast where I drive 1 out of every 1000 LEO's marked on waze might be marked on EL, but that is about it. Yes, there are rare occasions where EL might have LEO's marked where Waze does not, but again, that is extremely rare. If you have the ability to run both, by all means run both. If you only run one, Waze is the only sane option.
 

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W.H.A.T.? And who is we? The forum knows Waze is far superior to EL as the user base is so much greater.

Sadly, Escort Live pales in comparison to Waze. In the Northeast where I drive 1 out of every 1000 LEO's marked on waze might be marked on EL, but that is about it. Yes, there are rare occasions where EL might have LEO's marked where Waze does not, but again, that is extremely rare. If you have the ability to run both, by all means run both. If you only run one, Waze is the only sane option.
That's the way we run it here. Escort Live in the background. Waze on the top. More users in my opinion are on waze . All my leo alerts are definitely from waze..
 

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What you say begs to differ with the language in this manual. https://www.rdforum.org/attachments/32899/
I beg to differ with your statement that my previous statement begs to differ with the language in said manual :D

Especially with the part "...This detector will NOT detect signals coming from the rear and will NOT alert to them..." oh wait. There is no such part in the manual.

As for Escort Live - I'll take your statement either as a strange attempt at humor, either as the honest, if doomed work of an Escort bot.

In my two years of using EL daily I have received maybe ten live alerts, of them maybe a couple were for real. They have a mostly accurate camera database, is all.

As opposed to VVAze which has pretty much the same camera database and crowd sourced alerts that are actually correct (because, ahem - they are sourced by a CROWD, not by a handful of poor users willing to feed a proprieatary software solution in exchange of being able to change the setting on their radar detectors from their phones).
 
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The Max II doesn't have a rear horn so you wouldn't have been alerted if this was the case.

With regards to RADAR, this is not correct. Just because there isn’t a dedicated rear facing horn doesn’t mean that the front facing horn won’t pick up reflections of RADAR from the ground and objects around it.

Think of it in terms of visible light. If you’re traveling forward on the road at night, and someone further behind you has their headlights on, you can usually see the influence from their headlights off to the front sides of your vehicle when they are near, even though you are still facing forward.

A forward facing single horn RADAR detector will similarly be able to detect the reflections of RADAR from around it. While not as strong as if it had a dedicated rear facing horn, the reflections from in front are still strong enough to make a detector alert actively if you were to pass by an onramp where an officer was parked shooting RADAR in the direction of your travel.
 

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