R7 FW 133.141.113 - New K Filter Discussion

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I’m seeing the same as you. .168 and .190s here. 1-2 bars for a second and gone.


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Are you running with TSF on or off? I ask because I have it on and I haven’t seen this behavior yet.
 

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TSF on, K filter on, K narrow, K 50%. Front/rear balance left unchanged. There is a Decatur speed sign abut 20 minutes from my house which uses the same antenna as the Genesis GHD.....the R7 picked it up normally, ramped up and ramped down with normal arrow function. I've also gone by some speed signs that have patch antennas and it alerted to those as well but they are locked out. The real test is whether 133 will be reactive enough to correctly alert to shots from that farking Kustom Falcon HR. As always, K band came from Satan's anus.
 

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Did the frequencies covered by Narrow and Wide change? A speed sign that I had previously locked out on Narrow didn't alert yesterday. So I opened to Wide and was immediately alerted (albeit muted). Alternatively, do speed signs drift? Unfortunately I was then interrupted by a work call so had to get back to the home office. So I didn't grab the freq. I can check again today.

But it made me paranoid that I should be running Wide.
 

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TSF on, K filter on, K narrow, K 50%. Front/rear balance left unchanged. There is a Decatur speed sign abut 20 minutes from my house which uses the same antenna as the Genesis GHD.....the R7 picked it up normally, ramped up and ramped down with normal arrow function. I've also gone by some speed signs that have patch antennas and it alerted to those as well but they are locked out. The real test is whether 133 will be reactive enough to correctly alert to shots from that farking Kustom Falcon HR. As always, K band came from Satan's anus.
I think it will do fine bases on this test and driving around with randon trigger pulls.
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Did the frequencies covered by Narrow and Wide change? A speed sign that I had previously locked out on Narrow didn't alert yesterday. So I opened to Wide and was immediately alerted (albeit muted). Alternatively, do speed signs drift? Unfortunately I was immediately interrupted by a work call so had to get back to the office. So I didn't grab the freq. I can check again today.

But it made me paranoid that I should be running Wide.
There are 3 K ranges now. Narrow, Wide, Extended.
Also temperature and voltages can change frequency.
 

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There are 3 K ranges now. Narrow, Wide, Extended.
Also temperature and voltages can change frequency.
Yeah, I'm aware of Extended, but I've never seen anything so low. My debate is Narrow v Wide. Yesterday was cold and damp, today is sunny and dry. I'm going to test the speed sign again. But if it's once again being captured in Narrow, wouldn't that alone be the strongest argument to run Wide? I don't want the weather to be the determinant of whether I receive a ticket.
 

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Not sure where you live but be thankful you don’t live in PA. Local police can’t use radar of any kind and state troopers only use instant on K band... ugh. It’s the worst. I’ve had the R7 since day one and always running the latest software but the K band falses are killer. I’ve had an escort product before my R7 and R3, and really miss the auto lockouts (i’m terrible at locking them out myself). Can’t wait for them to finally come to the R7 but i suspect I will have already moved on to Theia by the time that happens :(
 

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Yeah, I'm aware of Extended, but I've never seen anything so low. My debate is Narrow v Wide. Yesterday was cold and damp, today is sunny and dry. I'm going to test the speed sign again. But if it's once again being captured in Narrow, wouldn't that alone be the strongest argument to run Wide? I don't want the weather to be the determinant of whether I receive a ticket.
When I have my radar guns under the back seat overnight they can be out by 0.010 GHZ until they and the detector warm up to room temperature from near zero.
I have a speed sign here that is right at the lower limit of Wide, it has city power so temperature is the only variable. It will change enough from cool summer day to sunny warm day to move into wide, from previously needing extended.
R7 Lockouts got changed a while ago to be +/-.010 GHZ of the frequency you lockout at. Potentially some circumstances may be enough to move out of that range.
Any signal that is near the transition between narrow and wide could be an issue unless you lock it out.
During testing a gun set to a perfect 24.125 indoors changes to 24.13X when set up outside at cooler temps.
Warmer and it drops as low as 24.118.
Just electronics and an unavoidable physical changes from heat expansion/contraction/conductivity.
 

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Yeah, I'm aware of Extended, but I've never seen anything so low. My debate is Narrow v Wide. Yesterday was cold and damp, today is sunny and dry. I'm going to test the speed sign again. But if it's once again being captured in Narrow, wouldn't that alone be the strongest argument to run Wide? I don't want the weather to be the determinant of whether I receive a ticket.
Speed signs drift. So I wouldn't put that as a judging factor. Speed signs are powered usually by solar and depending on circumstances, they can drift a lot or little. Police radar can also drift, but is not bipolar like some speed signs.
 

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I run K Narrow because that covers the majority of NA jurisdictions.
Canada doesn't allow too much rogue guns out of tune.
Exceptions is when I travel to unknown areas, or cities like Calgary running Redflex.
 

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I reinstalled the update and reset back to default. I went out for a drive and it reacted as others have said. I was behind a Mazda CX-5 and it initially alerted with two beeps and 24.123 then went silent as I approached and passed the Mazda. On 1.29 it was never successful at filtering Mazda’s in my experience, so this is a good improvement. I also noticed that it was alerting to my locked out locations before the Mute Memory silenced it which it didn’t do on 1.29, so maybe the sensitivity is slightly improved. I’m using the exact same sensitivity settings as I had in 1.29.

Edit : I have all K filters on and K @40%
 
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It would be helpful if everyone would state what sensitivity (Hwy, Adv. or City) they are running and list their K-band settings. Some are doing this, but some are not. Would be helpful to know for apples to apples comparisons.

TIA.
 

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Speed signs drift. So I wouldn't put that as a judging factor. Speed signs are powered usually by solar and depending on circumstances, they can drift a lot or little. Police radar can also drift, but is not bipolar like some speed signs.
That's very helpful. I don't care about this particular speed sign, as I know my town runs four 34.7 guns and one 35.5 (ironically, in car #35!) and no K whatsoever. I just wanted to fiddle around with 1.33. And I did confirm today that it's still outside of narrow (but was inside last month). But if Police K isn't that bipolar, I'm hopefully OK running Narrow when I heard north into some of New York's smaller towns.

Thanks again for your reply - Jamie
 

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I got BSM'd by a Jeep this morning. I believe it was 24.126 but not sure. K set at 40%. K filtering on. It was in front of me (arrow forward) so my rear muting or balance doesn't matter. It beeped a couple times and that was it. Agree with Vortex, BSM has improved but not as good as Max 360. But Max 360 not nearly as sensitive as R7. I don't see the R7 as having problematic BSM. It happens occasionally, not routinely.

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I got BSM'd by a Jeep this morning. I believe it was 24.126 but not sure. K set at 40%. K filtering on. It was in front of me (arrow forward) so my rear muting or balance doesn't matter. It beeped a couple times and that was it. Agree with Vortex, BSM has improved but not as good as Max 360. But Max 360 not nearly as sensitive as R7. I don't see the R7 as having problematic BSM. It happens occasionally, not routinely.

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Maybe they allow for an initial alert until the signal can be sampled moar and then determined to be true, or false!
 

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That's very helpful. I don't care about this particular speed sign, as I know my town runs four 34.7 guns and one 35.5 (ironically, in car #35!) and no K whatsoever. I just wanted to fiddle around with 1.33. And I did confirm today that it's still outside of narrow (but was inside last month). But if Police K isn't that bipolar, I'm hopefully OK running Narrow when I heard north into some of New York's smaller towns.

Thanks again for your reply - Jamie
Be careful of what you wish for. When I say they are not as bipolar, I mean if they are not calibrated periodically, they can drift down or up and eventually be out of the narrow range. IIRC, NY townies still use K band and legit K band can be within the whole k band range. If you know for sure there isn’t any out of tune guns or that K band isn’t used, then I would maybe try the narrow option.
 

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I'll have to watch that Rear K Mute thing a bit more. Don't know what that will actually do in a "sneak attack from behind" scenario.

As far as auto-mute, I'm happy Uniden released this version before that feature is available. I'm good with all my manual mutes. I really went out of my way to canvas my entire wide-area coverage. Into parking lots and all. I got every damn one of those buggers locked out, so no hurry on getting that feature out before it's ready. I might not even upgrade when it does become available. The Escorts were locking out BSM everywhere, and that is not a good idea. I actually may prefer manual lockouts.

I also want to thank all the Beta Testers for helping to get this stuff right. I can see there was a hand from our RDF crew that made some good choices in this update. :hatsoff::neckbeard::thumbsup:

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I am with you on this. In the first month I manually locked out everything around that I knew for sure was false. No need to drive through multiple times to have auto-lockouts determine it's a false. I rarely add any new ones at this point. Have a few mobile speed signs that sit for 3 to 4 weeks in my daily travels then get moved. Auto-lockouts would block them which I don't want since they are in K territory. I don't have any real issue with BSM's in general so not sure I will move up to this latest version mainly that they "equalized" volumes on different alert tones and I prefer the lower more subdued K alert tone that is enough to get your attention but not nearly as loud as the Ka tone I set.

Then again most areas I drive are Ka so I run in City mode which I have found pretty quiet with the notch filter, lockouts and low speed mute at 25 keeps it really quiet while giving me decent K range. No close calls in 1.5 years or so.
 

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So I own a 2019 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid with the BSM and the Uniden R7. I updated to the 133.141.113 firmware and unfortunately, my detector chirps constantly from the rear horn at 24.160 or 24.168. I turned on mute all rear K band and it does work, but no way am I going to leave the display on all the time. Not sure why Uniden can't notch filter these specific frequencies. It has been a known issue since the detector was released. Back to lowering the k band frequency and rear balance, which socks because my local PD use K band guns.
 

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So I own a 2019 Acura MDX Sport Hybrid with the BSM and the Uniden R7. I updated to the 133.141.113 firmware and unfortunately, my detector chirps constantly from the rear horn at 24.160 or 24.168. I turned on mute all rear K band and it does work, but no way am I going to leave the display on all the time. Not sure why Uniden can't notch filter these specific frequencies. It has been a known issue since the detector was released. Back to lowering the k band frequency and rear balance, which socks because my local PD use K band guns.

That’s a bummer. Fortunately, Uniden will let you go backwards to an older firmware if it works better for you. I drive a 17 CR-V. The K block actually blocks my own vehicle.
A notch filter would be good to allow users to block what they need for their own specific needs.
 

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I have a "Hot" R7 , yet, in city mode in the metropolitan miami area it is quiet.

I went from having 2 falses going to work (30 minute drive ) to 1 false. and very short ones..

Happy so far, I would have to take it on a road trip and set it to advanced to see how much it has improved.
 

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