R7 FW 133.141.113 - New K Filter Discussion

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It seems like most R series firmware change logs say “improved BSM filtering”, and the result is usually the same..meh.

Perhaps “improved BSM filtering” means added settings that can be used to tame the annoyance of BSM. Rear K mute, Quiet ride alert volume, etc,........
 

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Perhaps “improved BSM filtering” means added settings that can be used to tame the annoyance of BSM. Rear K mute, Quiet ride alert volume, etc,........
That's always the case with Uniden updates. I'm not a fanboy but how come Escort can pull it off maintaining almost the same detection distance with 360c being quiet as a church mouse.
 

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That's always the case with Uniden updates. I'm not a fanboy but how come Escort can pull it off maintaining almost the same detection distance with 360c being quiet as a church mouse.
Having a longer delay on K band reactivity.
 

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Perhaps “improved BSM filtering” means added settings that can be used to tame the annoyance of BSM. Rear K mute, Quiet ride alert volume, etc,........
I am wondering the same thing, drove with 133 today and not seeing anything outstanding compared to 129. Only one day so will see what longer term brings...
 

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Well, it definitely didn't change the reaction to Chrysler Pacificas..... LOL

It's possibly better against GM but I may have just failed to run into the right one so far so I've yet to verify.

In any case, instead of just saying it's quieter or noisier or the same it would help if everybody pointed out what it was falsing to or at least what frequency.
 

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In any case, instead of just saying it's quieter or noisier or the same it would help with everybody pointed out what it was falsing to or at least what frequency.
Agreed! A friendly reminder to anyone, I'm happy to include such details in the OP - just ask so I know to! So if you have any details like Obeer mentioned, feel free to note them!
 

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Perhaps “improved BSM filtering” means added settings that can be used to tame the annoyance of BSM. Rear K mute, Quiet ride alert volume, etc,........
This is actual improvement in the K Filter. Not any additional workarounds.
That's always the case with Uniden updates. I'm not a fanboy but how come Escort can pull it off maintaining almost the same detection distance with 360c being quiet as a church mouse.
How many years with sub par M360 performance, lockups and Honda detection?
Now with a platform 2 years newer than an R7 for close to double the current sale price of a R7 they move ahead. Let's all bash the U brand because competition caught up.....
Having a longer delay on K band reactivity.
Hardly a spec of difference in reactivity, at all settings.
See my test in the countermeasures testing section.
Still a K Band sensitivity and reactivity leader.
Drove around on 133 today... hit up my favorite Kband sign and speed trap, no noticeable difference. BSM still annoying.
Your statement implies you believe speed signs and radar traps are BSM falsing. Care to rephrase?
If it stopped alerting to those we have a problem.
If you don't want to hear your speed signs, door openers etc, lock em out.

@Vortex has his review up on his site, he's been using 133 for a long time.
BSMs have improved.
RL360c and V1G2 are still better on BSMs. But R7 is quieter than firmware 129.

Quite the batch of sarcastic negative responses on RDF towards what has been a very positive development and continued support for the R7?

Seems updates are coming more regular and more frequent from Uniden than the others....
 

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This is actual improvement in the K Filter. Not any additional workarounds.

How many years with sub par M360 performance, lockups and Honda detection?
Now with a platform 2 years newer than an R7 for close to double the current sale price of a R7 they move ahead. Let's all bash the U brand because competition caught up.....

Hardly a spec of difference in reactivity, at all settings.
See my test in the countermeasures testing section.
Still a K Band sensitivity and reactivity leader.

Your statement implies you believe speed signs and radar traps are BSM falsing. Care to rephrase?
If it stopped alerting to those we have a problem.
If you don't want to hear your speed signs, door openers etc, lock em out.

@Vortex has his review up on his site, he's been using 133 for a long time.
BSMs have improved.
RL360c and V1G2 are still better on BSMs. But R7 is quieter than firmware 129.

Quite the batch of sarcastic negative responses on RDF towards what has been a very positive development and continued support for the R7?

Seems updates are coming more regular and more frequent from Uniden than the others....
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you as well obviously.

Gentlemen let's agree to maybe keep it civil and focus more on the details of the update when it comes to BSM filtering!

It is nice to be reminded that people are behind these updates and that we should try to be respectful, even if we're giving less than positive feedback at times! Myself included!

I would definitely like to focus on what people are seeing real world now that the software is in more hands!
 

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you as well obviously.

Gentlemen let's agree to maybe keep it civil and focus more on the details of the update when it comes to BSM filtering!

It is nice to be reminded that people are behind these updates and that we should try to be respectful, even if we're giving less than positive feedback at times! Myself included!

I would definitely like to focus on what people are seeing real world now that the software is in more hands!
Agreed.
This is a great place to share actual BSM experiences after installing 133.
Not so much general statements on brand preference.
 

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This is actual improvement in the K Filter. Not any additional workarounds.

How many years with sub par M360 performance, lockups and Honda detection?
Now with a platform 2 years newer than an R7 for close to double the current sale price of a R7 they move ahead. Let's all bash the U brand because competition caught up.....

Hardly a spec of difference in reactivity, at all settings.
See my test in the countermeasures testing section.
Still a K Band sensitivity and reactivity leader.

Your statement implies you believe speed signs and radar traps are BSM falsing. Care to rephrase?
If it stopped alerting to those we have a problem.
If you don't want to hear your speed signs, door openers etc, lock em out.

@Vortex has his review up on his site, he's been using 133 for a long time.
BSMs have improved.
RL360c and V1G2 are still better on BSMs. But R7 is quieter than firmware 129.

Quite the batch of sarcastic negative responses on RDF towards what has been a very positive development and continued support for the R7?

Seems updates are coming more regular and more frequent from Uniden than the others....

I am positive R7, my post was saying a reason the new RL360 might be quieter is because it has a longer delay, I agree with your testing, the R's being consistently fast.

As far as BSM, what are the main offenders that make for a noisy detector?

My answer- Basically the ones most stuggle with, Mazda, Jeep, Honda, Pacifica...ones K block (bandaid) doesn't cover, .160-.168 are the worst. As far as the older GMs, Cadillac, Buick, not so much anymore.

So, if the main offenders have not been quieted, and they haven't seemed to be and they are everywhere, how much of a noticeable difference would there be even if some older less seen ones were improved?

The rear antenna mute or de-tuning make those constant falses every time you meet a main offender reduced but that is not really what I would call true BSM filtering improvement. The rear horn is a major reporter of falses so this does help tremendously though so I gladly accept this option.

I am not being sarcastic or ungrateful, I am thankful for all the improvement. The Rs are my goto detector for windshield units in my area... but I must admit, the NRDSP with the ALF feature has spoiled me because it has given me reactivity and range of an R and quiet to the main offenders, so I know what quiet can be.

I am not doubting there are improvements but am questioning how noticeable they will be. I am sure Vortex has had the Betas but has mentioned the V1G2 is still his quieter goto, so what does that indicate...

That said, I will continue to be an R user until something much better comes along.
 
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I am positive R7, my post was saying a reason the new RL360 might be quieter is because it has a longer delay, I agree with your testing, the R's being consistently fast.

As far as BSM, what are the main offenders that make for a noisy detector?

My answer- Basically the ones most stuggle with, Mazda, Jeep, Honda, Pasifica...ones K block (bandaid) doesn't cover, .160-.168 are the worst. As far as the older GMs, Cadillac, Buick, not so much anymore.

So, if the main offenders are not quieted, and they haven't been and they are everywhere, how much of a noticeable difference would there be even if some older less seen ones were improved?

The rear antenna mute or de-tuning make those constant falses every time you meet a main offender reduced but that is not really what I would call true BSM filtering improvement. The rear horn is a major reporter of falses so this does help tremendously though so I gladly accept this option.

I am not being sarcastic or ungrateful, I am thankful for all the improvement. The Rs are my goto detector for windshield units in my area... but I must admit, the NRDSP with the ALF feature has spoiled me because it has given me reactivity and range of an R and quiet to the main offenders, so I know what quiet can be.

I am not doubting there are improvements but am questioning how noticeable they will be. I am sure Vortex has had the Betas but has mentioned the V1G2 is still his quieter goto, so what does that indicate...

That said, I will continue to be an R user until something much better comes along.
Well if Cadillac and GM BSMs are reduced I'll be thrilled. We're truck and SUV heavy here, Escalades far to frequent. Each new firmware version the Cadillacs have been getting quieter and quieter.
Forward facing collision avoidance or adaptive cruise control is horrid on some Escalades. Rear BSMs on the sedans.
If they can eliminate those I imagine most GMs will be quieter.
Looking forward to some road time this weekend to give it a try.
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Drove around today and it was very quiet for a first day drive, a little too quiet. So I am sketched out, like with any update time will tell. I also drive an Acura and the usual spots that it picks up for K band have been quiet thus far.
 

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Drove around today and it was very quiet for a first day drive, a little too quiet. So I am sketched out, like with any update time will tell. I also drive an Acura and the usual spots that it picks up for K band have been quiet thus far.
Make sure it installed correctly. Last thing we need is something didnt install right and you get a ticket.
find something to test with or reinstall if unsure.
grocery store door or Honda dealer lol
 

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not sure why but K band suddenly got noisy after the update. TSF on, narrow K on, rear k off, and k reduced to 70%.

Most of those were all my previous settings and hardly ever heard K band. Now every Buick I get behind sets off the rd
 

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I put some decent time behind the wheel with 133 yesterday. Only setting change from prior firmware was enabling Rear K Mute. There was a noticeable difference in how 133 R7 reacts to BSMs....two quick beeps and two bars and then they disappear. Offenders in different parts of the K spectrum including 24.124 and 24.164. No real change in how it reacts to stationary falses, most of which I had already locked out. So far so good.
 

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I put some decent time behind the wheel with 133 yesterday. Only setting change from prior firmware was enabling Rear K Mute. There was a noticeable difference in how 133 R7 reacts to BSMs....two quick beeps and two bars and then they disappear. Offenders in different parts of the K spectrum including 24.124 and 24.164. No real change in how it reacts to stationary falses, most of which I had already locked out. So far so good.

I’m seeing the same as you. .168 and .190s here. 1-2 bars for a second and gone.


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