Is the Redline 360c too complicated?

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Complicated? I do not think they are complicated for their target demographic. I do think that the legacy detectors are not intuitive. The mumbo jumbo lingo and the options are not made plain English enough to help people ramp up quickly (pun intended).
 

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No. Its the same as anything else that we use today compared to having used a older version of said device 10, 15,20 yrs ago. If you want to use todays devices you invest the time to learn how to use them correctly. Not a single person on this site didnt invest the time needed to learn how to drive a car. How are CM's any diffrent?
 

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Part of this age old question lies in one simple answer. READ YOUR OWNERS MANUAL. Throughout the history of anything electronic, TV,VCR, DVD, and now- Radar detectors is Please read the manual. Not many people do it. But in most cases if one does this, then the answers to our questions are down there in the printed material to help us. Invest the time and then a complicated device becomes less complicated.
 

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I was thinking about this a little more, especially thinking about people who buy detectors and literally don't change a single setting or mess with apps whatsoever. What if we consider detectors literally as plug and play as you could imagine? Take it out of the box, stick it on the windshield, plug it in, and done, assuming people are going to run it out of the box to get their "police protection." No band segmentation, no TSR, no Highway/Auto mode, no BT/WiFi, just fully stock.

For those types of people, I still think Escorts would be the best plug and play option, if just for the autolockouts alone. Those aren't the types of people who'd want manual lockouts and to know the difference between a real K band alert or any number of K falses.

In other areas, it's probably fairly equivalent. Most detectors ship with low speed muting enabled, RLC alerts, and MRCD is (I think) disabled out of the box. Maybe the auto display brightness is another thing too, but that's pretty minor.
 

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I was talking to a friend about the RL 360c, he recently got a speeding ticket. As I was explaining the settings I could see his eyes start to glaze over and I hadn’t yet got to the point of segmentation. I wasn't even going to get into band widths, updates, what to do if something odd occurs after an update, how to know something odd is happening, how to recognize false alerts, etc. He just wanted to buy a reliable detector, mount it, drive and be forewarned. I told him he could get a less expensive plug-and-play detector but it would have limitations which are covered by the RL and... "hey, what did you think of Daniel Ricciardo's switch to McLaren?" was his segue out of that conversation. Are contemporary digital detectors mainly for enthusiasts?
Tell him to get a Redenso Pro-M. pretty much set right out of the box. He gets great performance, in a small form factor, very good BSM filtering and just a very nice detector for everyday use.
 

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When working properly the Escort detectors are the best you can buy if your willing to pay $$$ for them. It's the detector I want my wife to use, all she has to do is put it on the windshield and plug it in.
 

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If you can setup a smartphone, you can setup a detector. Spend a couple of hours with it initially and you're largely good to go. 😉
 

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If you can setup a smartphone, you can setup a detector. Spend a couple of hours with it initially and you're largely good to go. 😉
It'd be interesting to poll people to see how much research/setup/configuration they do of their RD's.

RDF will naturally skew towards the "learn everything and dial it in perfectly" camp, not to mention people who google articles and watch videos are also more in the "I research stuff" group and so I'm not sure how we can poll people who wouldn't be seeking out this sort of stuff in the first place, but it'd be super interesting nonetheless, especially to learn about other people's perspectives outside of our typical bubbles. :)
 

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As a former product manager for a fortune 50 technology company, I can tell you that customers are not monolithic. Customers range from ultra sophisticated users that want endless configurability to users that just want it to go "beep" - and everywhere in between. However, most buyers will not read a 40 page manual. Therefore, if you want to sell to this broad spectrum (and that is where the bulk of the sales and $$ areare) you need a product that each can make all of these customers happy.

This means that for the **average** user, its gotta come out of the box and be useable with little or no modification. And no "band segmentation". Here is where the V1 leads. Right out of the box, it needs no "band segmentation". Just plug, set volume, and play. Does it do everything right out of the box, with no app.....no. But it covers what 80%+ of what most buyers want, right out of the box, with no steep learning curve and no manual reading. As soon as you start talking about "band segmentation" for "the threats you face on your drive", you loose 80% of customers. With the V1, no need to get to that level.

Now, for the ultra sophisticated customer, you need the 60 page manual and endless configurabillity. This type of customer loves the details. Here is where both the V1 and RL360 are on par.

But try to remember, the bulk of the sales are not to ultra sophisticated users. Most customers just want it to go "beep".
 

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Hmm. I understand his POV. I purchased a dadhcam and RD for my dad for Father's day a couple years ago.

He figured he could just mount both and go about his day. Whereas I always like to research things... Whether it's a radar detector, IT/Cyber related devices, books, etc. I'll spend weeks doing research to the point when it arrives, I feel like I've owned it for a while (usually).

I'll go through the user manual online multiple times, watch YouTube videos, visit forums...

But for the average Joe who isn't an enthusiast, it'll seem difficult. Escort's products are incredibly easy to use and configure.

I was speaking to a couple buddies of mine recently about the V1G2. They both have Cobra RD's. They had no idea what I was talking about and no clue what I was referring to when I mentioned the 34.7 and 33.8 frequencies of Ka band.

So again, if someone is not actually interested in the device itself, but more interested in just having it "do its job", they may find it complicated.

Just my .02
 

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