Is the Redline 360c too complicated?

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I was talking to a friend about the RL 360c, he recently got a speeding ticket. As I was explaining the settings I could see his eyes start to glaze over and I hadn’t yet got to the point of segmentation. I wasn't even going to get into band widths, updates, what to do if something odd occurs after an update, how to know something odd is happening, how to recognize false alerts, etc. He just wanted to buy a reliable detector, mount it, drive and be forewarned. I told him he could get a less expensive plug-and-play detector but it would have limitations which are covered by the RL and... "hey, what did you think of Daniel Ricciardo's switch to McLaren?" was his segue out of that conversation. Are contemporary digital detectors mainly for enthusiasts?
 

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Actually, I’d say the Redline 360c is one of the simplest, easiest to use detectors currently available. It has good BSM filtering, autolockouts out of the box, and honestly you can set it on your windshield and forget it. It’s the detector I would recommend to any non-enthusiast who just wants to put it on their windshield, forget about it, and be protected.
 

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I would disagree with your post. Escort Detectors are usually plug and play and settings are detailed by @Vortex as well as on this forum, via the EL App, and the manual. Analog detectors have settings just like digital ones.

Honestly driving with any detector is a style that is learned over time. People simply think they can plug it in and never get another speeding ticket. There is a learning curve that comes with detectors.

There are a ton of resources and videos available to help that learning curve but driving with one overtime in my opinion is the best teacher.
 

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IMO, it has nothing to do specifically with the RL 360C. Anything new has a learning curve and it sounds like your friend just needs to take the time to read the user manual, check out vortexradar.com, spend some time reading and asking questions here, and keep picking your brain for answers to any questions they might have. Escort detectors are mostly plug-n-play for sure, but if your friend isn’t too familiar with countermeasures, some research and willingness to learn is a must.
 

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They're like computers- you can use them to do basic tasks like browse the web or more advanced stuff like programming. Escorts are very easy to use in Auto mode- i am assuming it has auto low k and auto no x so he doesn't have to bother with settings. The programming gets more complicated when you use percentages for detection and pairing the detectors with apps.
 

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There is some learning curve with any detector, even more plug-and-play ones. Even things like why it beeps when there’s no cops around and why it may stay silent right next to a cop.

I think Theia may wind up being the easiest detector to use yet. No more worries about programming options like segmentation or TSR, dealing with BSM falses, or even needing to turn individual bands on and off.

If the detector can do a better job of simply knowing whether a radar source is coming from a police radar gun or not, that would make things so much easier...
 

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Vortex your right and while I have been following Theia since initial news, I wasnt necessarily thinking about the settings like you said. I love my R7 but there are so many settings to adjust where it works the way I want. With Theia so much of those wont even be required...sweet!
 

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I would disagree with your post. Escort Detectors are usually plug and play and settings are detailed by @Vortex as well as on this forum, via the EL App, and the manual. Analog detectors have settings just like digital ones.

Honestly driving with any detector is a style that is learned over time. People simply think they can plug it in and never get another speeding ticket. There is a learning curve that comes with detectors.

There are a ton of resources and videos available to help that learning curve but driving with one overtime in my opinion is the best teacher.
I'm not sure what you disagree with, you've reinforced my point! My friend and I assume many others, don't want to "get into" the myriad details of using a radar detector effectively, they have no interest in that. They don't find radar detectors sexy or intriguing and they don't want to join a forum, mess with an app or consider the learning curve. When I bought my first detector, an 8500 X50, I opened the box, registered it, stuck it on the windshield and that was it! That is what my friend wants but if he put a detector like that in his car today, it wouldn't stay very long because the false alerts would drive him crazy. Even though 5 million traffic citations are issued each year in Florida (not all are speeding tickets), most people don't have a radar detector in their car. There's more than one reason for that but interest in radar detectors and that they have to be learned about over time has got to be one of them.
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There is some learning curve with any detector, even more plug-and-play ones. Even things like why it beeps when there’s no cops around and why it may stay silent right next to a cop.

I think Theia may wind up being the easiest detector to use yet. No more worries about programming options like segmentation or TSR, dealing with BSM falses, or even needing to turn individual bands on and off.

If the detector can do a better job of simply knowing whether a radar source is coming from a police radar gun or not, that would make things so much easier...
Let's hope that proves to be the case with Theia but my friend would rather take his chances than to spend several hundred dollars and then have to learn about a technology in which he has no interest beyond preventing a speeding ticket.
 
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I'm not sure what you disagree with, you've reinforced my point! My friend and I assume many others, don't want to "get into" the myriad details of using a radar detector effectively, they have no interest in that. They don't find radar detectors sexy or intriguing and they don't want to join a forum, mess with an app or consider the learning curve. When I bought my first detector, an 8500 X50, I opened the box, registered it, stuck it on the windshield and that was it! That is what my friend wants but if he put a detector like that in his car today, it wouldn't stay very long because the false alerts would drive him crazy. Even though 5 million traffic citations are issued each year in Florida (not all are speeding tickets), most people don't have a radar detector in their car. There's more than one reason for that but interest in radar detectors and that they have to be learned about over time has got to be one of them.
Mainly the, "Are contemporary digital detectors mainly for enthusiasts?" With the advancement of technology digital ones are necessary now. For example you didn't have to worry about BSM in the past but now we all do.
 

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Vortex your right and while I have been following Theia since initial news, I wasnt necessarily thinking about the settings like you said. I love my R7 but there are so many settings to adjust where it works the way I want. With Theia so much of those wont even be required...sweet!
Right! And my question is presented from the perspective of people who just aren't interested in dealing with the settings, BSM filters, segmenting, etc. I recently gave an old V1 to a friend and he loves it but he isn't interested in anything more than resting it on his top of his dashboard and plugging it in! He won't order a mount, the dash is "good enough". I've been trying to get him to download Waze for months and a simple thing like that is still something that he isn't interested enough in to use. There are drivers who are not like us and it seems that modern detectors are something they don't care to learn about.
 

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As I was explaining the settings I could see his eyes start to glaze over

Hindsight 20/20, maybe it would have been easier to say, "It's a great detector right out of the box. And as you get more familiar with it, there are things you can customize to make it even better if you want to."

But honestly, it's probably not worth the trouble trying to evangelize someone (unless they're on your car insurance). They need to get fed up with speeding tickets to the point where they're motivated to do something about it. Plenty of people will just accept a ticket every few years as just another tax on mobility.
 

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Prior to the latest firmware update that segments Ka by default, which segmentation covers most but not all driving locations, I would have said that anyone could have just installed and used it right out of the box without touching any settings. I'm hoping they reconsider that default change which was attributed to increased performance without further detail on the what and why.

Bottom line, I'd give one to any family member to use that had no interest in programming any settings on any RD, but for that one item.
 

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Everything seems to get a little more complicated as time goes by - not many things are really plug an play and have full functionality without some tweaking. I spend hours learning about new technology and software at work, and home - integrating and setting products up and everything changes in a few months - or I screw something up and have to troubleshoot, which takes time.

Not even including work - Between my cars, phones, telescopes, dash and security cameras, PS4, TV, routers, water system, wired home (Smarthings, Alexa)- even new tractors and construction tools - all this crap takes time to learn and understand. If I don't have an interest - I don't take the time, if I don't have the time, I don't get interested.

I understand why your friend is like that, I have given up a few things as there is only so much time.
 
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I think your friend just enjoys getting speeding tickets. 😂
 

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Right! And my question is presented from the perspective of people who just aren't interested in dealing with the settings, BSM filters, segmenting, etc. I recently gave an old V1 to a friend and he loves it but he isn't interested in anything more than resting it on his top of his dashboard and plugging it in! He won't order a mount, the dash is "good enough". I've been trying to get him to download Waze for months and a simple thing like that is still something that he isn't interested enough in to use. There are drivers who are not like us and it seems that modern detectors are something they don't care to learn about.

Yeah realistically I think that’s the vast majority of drivers. It’s a rare few of us who enjoy spending our free time geeking out on radar detector forums. Even when we spend time trying to explain the settings as easily as we can, it seems most people just want a box that beeps when there’s a cop, stays silent otherwise, and they don’t want to dive in much deeper than that.

That’s totally fine as a way to do things. It’s just different from how many of us approach things in our RDF bubble. :)
 

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I think your friend just enjoys getting speeding tickets. 😂
LOL but the same could be said about anyone who gets a speeding ticket and doesn't take steps to protect themselves in the future. I was trying to use my friend as an example of people who are not interested in countermeasures but perhaps his disinterest is an anomaly. Responses to my original question seem to indicate that modern radar detectors, like the RL360c, are not too complicated for non-enthusiasts. That's all I was looking for.
 

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