First ZR5 lidar encounter and initial review

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Just had my ZR5 installed about a little over a week ago, and still waiting for responses to have someone be able to test it, yesterday while I was traveling on I480 outside of Cleveland, I encountered my first Lidar hit experience. I got alert roughly 1500 ft out, my RL360c did the 4 sec shift then off for alert only mode, since I have not had chance to test the system, and didn’t know how effective it might be, nor didn’t know which type of gun that was used, so all I can say is I got the alert and there was no ticket!

Now I had a little bit time with the ZR5, here are few my thoughts on it. In general, I like it be able to run as standalone or interactive with RL360c, make it very convenient. However, when it is running alone, there is no JTK function, will require the manual turn off the shifting. Hopefully, those will be just few situations that I have to run it as standalone. When it connected wit RL360c, there are few things that inwish Escort could have some official documents to explain more definitive how it behaviors.

As expected, when connected with RL360c, the alerts will be showing and heard on detector. However, the ZR5 control panel functions are unclear to me, nor I can find any documentation related to it. In specific, the mute button on control panel does not mute the detector at all, I would expect it would do that. However, if you pressed twice quickly during X or K alerts, it will prompt for lock out option on detector. The biggest mystery would be the mode button. When connected with detector, press the mode with hear from ZR5 announces between shift and receiving, which I would expecting the manual override function. But when it is announced in receiving, the RL360c still display shifting when it detected laser, makes me wonder who is actually in the right state? Same is true when RL360c displays shifting off, if i press the mode button, I would expecting the ZR5 to turn on shift mode immediately, yet, the ZR5 just announces whatever is opposite the previous state. So until I can have a true test with guns, it is really no way knowing if one is overriding the other.

Anyone has better idea or know something for sure, would love to hear your experiences. I am new to laser shifters, so please forgive me if I express things with total stupid terms.
 

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Interesting observations. Sorry, I have no insights to share regarding if the RD or the ZR controller is actually controlling the shifters.

There are a few ZR5 users on here, hopefully they can shed some light.
 

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Just had my ZR5 installed about a little over a week ago, and still waiting for responses to have someone be able to test it, yesterday while I was traveling on I480 outside of Cleveland, I encountered my first Lidar hit experience. I got alert roughly 1500 ft out, my RL360c did the 4 sec shift then off for alert only mode, since I have not had chance to test the system, and didn’t know how effective it might be, nor didn’t know which type of gun that was used, so all I can say is I got the alert and there was no ticket!

Now I had a little bit time with the ZR5, here are few my thoughts on it. In general, I like it be able to run as standalone or interactive with RL360c, make it very convenient. However, when it is running alone, there is no JTK function, will require the manual turn off the shifting. Hopefully, those will be just few situations that I have to run it as standalone. When it connected wit RL360c, there are few things that inwish Escort could have some official documents to explain more definitive how it behaviors.

As expected, when connected with RL360c, the alerts will be showing and heard on detector. However, the ZR5 control panel functions are unclear to me, nor I can find any documentation related to it. In specific, the mute button on control panel does not mute the detector at all, I would expect it would do that. However, if you pressed twice quickly during X or K alerts, it will prompt for lock out option on detector. The biggest mystery would be the mode button. When connected with detector, press the mode with hear from ZR5 announces between shift and receiving, which I would expecting the manual override function. But when it is announced in receiving, the RL360c still display shifting when it detected laser, makes me wonder who is actually in the right state? Same is true when RL360c displays shifting off, if i press the mode button, I would expecting the ZR5 to turn on shift mode immediately, yet, the ZR5 just announces whatever is opposite the previous state. So until I can have a true test with guns, it is really no way knowing if one is overriding the other.

Anyone has better idea or know something for sure, would love to hear your experiences. I am new to laser shifters, so please forgive me if I express things with total stupid terms.
Contact Vortex Radar on here. The last thing you want is JTG with a police officer. That really pisses them off! Escort engineers are not my favorite for having these technical glitches, but I am sure your issue will be resolved rather a software update or more information.
 

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Contact Vortex Radar on here. The last thing you want is JTG with a police officer. That really pisses them off! Escort engineers are not my favorite for having these technical glitches, but I am sure your issue will be resolved rather a software update or more information.
It may piss them off but at the end of the day these are legal in many states. Check your state and make sure they aren't illegal. At the end of the day, if you slow your speed as intended and they are still in jam mode, there's really nothing they can do. Most LEO's don't use Lidar due to the fact that it has to be pretty accurate and there's not much wiggle room for the shooter.
 

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It may piss them off but at the end of the day these are legal in many states. Check your state and make sure they aren't illegal. At the end of the day, if you slow your speed as intended and they are still in jam mode, there's really nothing they can do. Most LEO's don't use Lidar due to the fact that it has to be pretty accurate and there's not much wiggle room for the shooter.
I am in Ohio. I am good. Importantly, I am set for JTK all the time anyway. My concern is when ZR5 paired with RL360c or any compatible detectors, which control has the priority override the other, mainly when press the mode button on ZR5 control override the JTK setting on detector? There is just no definitive answer or document from Escort, or any other sources.
 

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It may piss them off but at the end of the day these are legal in many states. Check your state and make sure they aren't illegal. At the end of the day, if you slow your speed as intended and they are still in jam mode, there's really nothing they can do. Most LEO's don't use Lidar due to the fact that it has to be pretty accurate and there's not much wiggle room for the shooter.
It may be legal, for now...but it won't be for long if people abuse it, Texas is a prime example.

Don't JTG or your asking for trouble...
 

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It may piss them off but at the end of the day these are legal in many states. Check your state and make sure they aren't illegal. At the end of the day, if you slow your speed as intended and they are still in jam mode, there's really nothing they can do. Most LEO's don't use Lidar due to the fact that it has to be pretty accurate and there's not much wiggle room for the shooter.
No sir. These are Law ENFORCEMENT Officers. Please respect them and JTK. You don't want them complaining to senior authorities.
 

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It may piss them off but at the end of the day these are legal in many states. Check your state and make sure they aren't illegal. At the end of the day, if you slow your speed as intended and they are still in jam mode, there's really nothing they can do. Most LEO's don't use Lidar due to the fact that it has to be pretty accurate and there's not much wiggle room for the shooter.
This is the exact mentality that led to laws being passed in Texas banning them. Do not do this. Always make an effort to JTK, no matter what. One's complacency with jammers can ruin it for everyone else.

I know some here may think we are being hard asses about this, but it's for a good reason.
 

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It may piss them off but at the end of the day these are legal in many states. Check your state and make sure they aren't illegal. At the end of the day, if you slow your speed as intended and they are still in jam mode, there's really nothing they can do. Most LEO's don't use Lidar due to the fact that it has to be pretty accurate and there's not much wiggle room for the shooter.
What??

This is terrible device, with thinking like this laws will come quick to ban these in more states.

Any you would be incorrect about there is nothing they can do. At the very least they can harass and follow you - at worst they can write you up for Obstruction - which has happened in states without a ban and in texas pre ban.

I vote ban :)
 

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What??

This is terrible device, with thinking like this laws will come quick to ban these in more states.

Any you would be incorrect about there is nothing they can do. At the very least they can harass and follow you - at worst they can write you up for Obstruction - which has happened in states without a ban and in texas pre ban.

I vote ban :)
Correct. I believe every state has a very general law about preventing an officer from performing their duties or obstruction. Not worth the hassle of having to fight that.
 

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give a irritated LEO a reason and they can usually find one, especially if they remember your neon-yellow C-8 Corvette already dissed their laser thrice this month.
 

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