To seg or not to seg, that is the question.

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What frequencies?
Okay maybe their not frequencies, rather bands. I'm not familiar with the techno babble, lol. I guess it would skip over bands, 7,9, and 10. That's if I'm correct in my memory on the segmenting here in the ATL, GA area.
 

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Okay maybe their not frequencies, rather bands. I'm not familiar with the techno babble, lol. I guess it would skip over bands, 7,9, and 10. That's if I'm correct in my memory on the segmenting here in the ATL, GA area.
I could be wrong, but I think the different vendors are using different margins in the bands..
 

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The RL360C is one of the slowest reacting detectors I've tested. Segmenting seems to help, but in practice it's still not ideal. You are right about the V1G2, it's fast already and the custom frequencies do nothing to speed it up any more.
That's very disconcerting. In the 10 years that I ran my segmented Redline I never got a ticket, not even close! If I get a ticket with the RL 360c running, I'm not going to be a happy guy!
 

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That's what I meant but I'm still confused as to why something like that is "not for general consumption". That said, I don't want to pursue that tangent, it is what it is. I'd rather the thread stay on topic, I'm more interested in answers to the original question. I do appreciate your advice.
If you stick around and participate on RDF, you'll soon start getting to the next levels and understand. :)
OK, back OT.

Suffice to say that if you know all the possible frequencies you'd face in your area, segmenting the R360c will help with it's performance. The more frequencies that you cut out, the better but it's risk vs reward. I run 2,4,5,6,8 on everything as a default, simply to kill the false alerts from the other segments that the police don't really use. That's generally pretty safe. In most areas you can even get away with 2,5,8 but it's not a good idea in NY, NJ and some other places that have drifting stalker units or 33.8/MPH guns.
 

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I haven't looked at the chart for ATL, GA recently; but when in ATL, I have felt safe running
2, 4, 5, 6, and 8. (Higher portion of segment 4 and lower portion of segment 6 only)
 

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OK, back OT.

Suffice to say that if you know all the possible frequencies you'd face in your area, segmenting the R360c will help with it's performance. The more frequencies that you cut out, the better but it's risk vs reward. I run 2,4,5,6,8 on everything as a default, simply to kill the false alerts from the other segments that the police don't really use. That's generally pretty safe. In most areas you can even get away with 2,5,8 but it's not a good idea in NY, NJ and some other places that have drifting stalker units.
Thanks! Here in Florida I'm running 2/5/6/8, from what I've read that should suffice. In fact, I'm headed to Tampa right now, the drive should provide some hits, it usually does.
 

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That's some interesting settings, and I've seen them recommended before. But I thought that Id seen somewhere here that running band one around here was recommended as well for drifting guns. Has there been any reasonable decisions made on that idea?
 

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Neither the new V1G2 or the RL360c should be Segmented as it will actually slow down scanning.
That might be true of the G2, but that is NOT true with the RL360c in the least! (I own both and have tested numerous ways)

The RL360C is one of the slowest reacting detectors I've tested. Segmenting seems to help, but in practice it's still not ideal. You are right about the V1G2, it's fast already and the custom frequencies do nothing to speed it up any more.
It is sad, but the 5/6 year old M360, which scans the entire Ka band, is faster than a segmented RL360c. Escort really need to address this in a firmware update....and soon!
 

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That might be true of the G2, but that is NOT true with the RL360c in the least! (I own both and have tested numerous ways)



It is sad, but the 5/6 year old M360, which scans the entire Ka band, is faster than a segmented RL360c. Escort really need to address this in a firmware update....and soon!
The 9500ix is faster. Let that sink in.
 

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That might be true of the G2, but that is NOT true with the RL360c in the least! (I own both and have tested numerous ways)



It is sad, but the 5/6 year old M360, which scans the entire Ka band, is faster than a segmented RL360c. Escort really need to address this in a firmware update....and soon!
So if I understand this correctly, You're saying that the RL360c IS faster segmented than not? And 2) that its slower than the M360 even if it IS segmented? If so, well crap I need to try and sell my RL360c and then buy a m360- not really but damn. Maybe I should shelve my RL360c and use my R3 for the time being.
 

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Some ideas on the R360c that the sweep times aren't necessarily the limiting factor in catching the radar signal, but the bottleneck may have been moved over to the processing side of things and moving the signal around to make a decision on it adding the additional time. This is all speculation ofcourse.

For most users I don't imagine fine tuning the segmentation would be greatly beneficial on newer detectors (given the large amount of effort to determine the performance increase/decrease) unless it is used for getting rid of false signals, or you require the extra 50' - 100' (thinking PSL+++).

Personally I don't segment for the fear of the unknown, but if you know your area extremely well and the equipment being purchased/retired I would segment. I use the RD for saving me that "one" time, so I feel it would sting if I missed that off frequency Ka/K blast.
 

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With a typical 2, 4,5,6, 8 segment scheme; the gun would have to be decently out of tune to be missed.
That being said, I currently don't "segment" my Gen2.

Still somewhat "on topic", @InsipidMonkey, any thoughts to the changes in Gen2 v4.1019 and Custom Frequencies vs full Ka?
 

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So if I understand this correctly, You're saying that the RL360c IS faster segmented than not? And 2) that its slower than the M360 even if it IS segmented? If so, well crap I need to try and sell my RL360c and then buy a m360- not really but damn. Maybe I should shelve my RL360c and use my R3 for the time being.
1) Considerably

2) 2/5/8 about = to M360 scanning all Ka - any more seg's added = slower

2a) The RL360c is more sensitive than the M360 so it matter which one is more important to you personally. The R3 has both....but a worse BSM filter than Escorts.
 

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CF's on the Gen2 are not true segmentation. They are sophisticated box mutes. So Gen2 still scans at extreme speed, it just doesn't report on those freqs outside the CF. It's much more flexible than clumsy segments.
So you can block areas where you might get annoying falses. Eg, I block everything outside 34.400 - 34.950 and 23.900 - 24.110.
Those CF's cover the threats I face.
 

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NY is reflected in this chart along with KY where segment 1 has also been found.
 

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the custom frequencies do nothing to speed it up any more.
nor do they hinder the scan speed in any way either (V1G2)
 

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NY is reflected in this chart along with KY where segment 1 has also been found.
This chart is informative. Thank you.
 

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