Purchase V1G2 or Redline 360c?

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hey LouG, I'm catching on rolling on the floor laughing-wow that's a long acronym though. My feeble memory may not remember that one. I need to practice it more than I would the other one. LOL
 

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A few years back we had "Photo Radar" in California. I was tagged myself and received a citation in the mail with a photo included. The photo did clearly show it was me so I chose to use the online traffic school option and got the citation voided that way. Shortly thereafter the whole "Photo Radar" process was abandoned by the state because people were simply ignoring the mailed citations and the reason I was told at the time was because you weren't required to "sign" for the mailed citation like you have to do when you are actually pulled over so the State wasn't able to prove you actually received the citation in the mail. Not sure if that was the actual reason it was abandoned but that is what I was told at the time. I know there are Red Light cameras in use here in CA but not sure how they get around the "signature" aspect for enforcement??
They get around it by hoping that you volunteer to waive your right to be served in person. Most people will respond to a mailed ticket without thinking.

When I lived in Arizona people would throw the tickets in the garbage. By law the state had 3 months to serve the ticket in person or the ticket automatically expired. Yet they still mailed them with a waiver clause in fine print saying you agreed to pay and agreed that you didn't want to be served in person.
 

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They get around it by hoping that you volunteer to waive your right to be served in person. Most people will respond to a mailed ticket without thinking.

When I lived in Arizona people would throw the tickets in the garbage. By law the state had 3 months to serve the ticket in person or the ticket automatically expired. Yet they still mailed them with a waiver clause in fine print saying you agreed to pay and agreed that you didn't want to be served in person.
I think that is similar to what happened in CA with the photo radar as well. I wonder if this approach (throw it in the garbage) would work also for the red light camera citations?? For me its a non issue as I NEVER run a red light or do a "hollywood stop" at stop signs. Too easy to get nailed and not worth the risk.
 

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hey LouG, I'm catching on rolling on the floor laughing-wow that's a long acronym though. My feeble memory may not remember that one. I need to practice it more than I would the other one. LOL
You can be as creative as you like, just start with ROTFL and and add whatever body parts you like.
 

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I live in Maryland and am trying to choose a new radar detector. Both V1G2 and Redline 360c are fine RDs, but both have issues. The major concerns I have are:
1) I live in Maryland so MRCD/MRCT are used. V1G2 doesn't currently support these. Also I prefer not to use a phone to add functionality; GPS, lockout, etc. I use my phone for podcasts and maps already. I know you can set JBV1 up to run in the background, but I'm already using my phone for other things in the car. I would be okay with the phone if it supported MRCD/MRCT
2) The purchase price for the Redline 360c is $250 more than V1G2. If it is much better, I could get over the extra cost. However, there is something I have read surprisingly little about. To get best protection with the Redline 360c you have to use Escort Live. There is a basic option, but to get full protection you have to purchase the premium Escort Live which costs $50/year after the first year. If you're paying $750 for a RD, this service should be free.

Based on these issues, which one do people think I should purchase?
I own both detectors and I will not use the V1G2 in NY because of the MRCD/MRCT it is useless against it. You have to run an app on your phone to get auto lock outs and low speed muting but you still will not have low power K band detection. Just get the Red Line 360c and it will do just about everything for you and there is a code that you can put in at check out to get 3 years of Escort Live for free. It's worth the extra $$$.
 

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Escort Live is not on the same planet as JBV1. Three years free or not. And, Gen2 does detect low power K, it doesn't ID it as anything different to K band.
Yes it will detect it if you put it in A mode. It will false to every door opener and Honda that goes by making the detector useless. Try using it in NY City in A mode you will have to turn it off. Valentine didn't sell a detector for almost a year you would think it would detect low power K band. In NJ it's a great detector no MRCD/MRCT go over the bridge into NY and you risk getting nailed.
 

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Yes it will detect it if you put it in A mode. It will false to every door opener and Honda that goes by making the detector useless. Try using it in NY City in A mode you will have to turn it off. Valentine didn't sell a detector for almost a year you would think it would detect low power K band. In NJ it's a great detector no MRCD/MRCT go over the bridge into NY and you risk getting nailed.
The redline also never shuts up when mrcd detection is turned on.
 

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Escort Live is not on the same planet as JBV1. Three years free or not. And, Gen2 does detect low power K, it doesn't ID it as anything different to K band.
You can run them both at the same time. The RL 360c will do everything on it's own and if your car has WiFi pair it to the car and it's even faster.
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The redline also never shuts up when mrcd detection is turned on.
Yes it is chatty with the MRCD/MRCT turned on. In NY all the speed cams are stationary, Escort updates their data base every week so it will warn you of the location. For me , I keep the MRCD/MRCT turned off. Now my R3,R7 Unidens do a very good job with the low power K band signal. The trade off is that Uniden updates their data base only two or three times a year leaving you open to anything that was added between updates. These cams broadcast the signal only if a car is in the kill zone. If no car is ahead of you in the kill zone and the cam is not in the data base you will get the MRCD warning at the same time the cam gets your speed. If your going too fast your dead meat.
 
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You can run them both at the same time. The RL 360c will do everything on it's own and if your car has WiFi pair it to the car and it's even faster.
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Yes it is chatty with the MRCD/MRCT turned on. In NY all the speed cams are stationary, Escort updates their data base every week so it will warn you of the location. For me , I keep the MRCD/MRCT turned off. Now my R3,R7 Unidens do a very good job with the low power K band signal. The trade off is that Uniden updates their data base only two or three times a year leaving you open to anything that was added between updates. These cams broadcast the signal only if a car is in the kill zone. If no car is ahead of you in the kill zone and the cam is not in the data base you will get the MRCD warning at the same time the cam gets your speed. If your going too fast your dead meat.
I will also add that the V1G2 is actually quieter in A mode than a Redline with MRCD turned on. Even if I turn K Verifier off on the V1G2, it's a toss up which one is more annoying. So in a RL360C vs V1G2 debate, this is pretty much a non-issue.

Will you agree to that?
 

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Even if I turn K Verifier off on the V1G2, it's a toss up which one is more annoying. So in a RL360C vs V1G2 debate, this is pretty much a non-issue.

Will you agree to that?

Well I find this hard to believe but not saying you are wrong.....I have never run my R360C with MRCD turned on but will so I can speak more educated on the subject....I have turned K Verifier off on the V1G2 and it was chattier than any detector I have ever used bar none....It was like running a Redline O in todays environment with K band enabled....
 
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Well I find this hard to believe but not saying you are wrong.....I have never run my R360C with MRCD turned on but will so I can speak more educated on the subject....I have turned K Verifier off on the V1G2 and it was chattier than any detector I have ever used bar none....It was like running a Redline O in todays environment with K band enabled....
I am sure you will agree with me. I've been running them both for the past few weeks. Enabling MRCD on the RL360C is annoying as all get out. So much so that I don't get why everyone points to that ability as a strong point of the detector. When it says cars traveling on the street are MRCD, it gets to where you can't trust it. You have to turn it off to make it acceptable to use.
 

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Yes it will detect it if you put it in A mode. It will false to every door opener and Honda that goes by making the detector useless. Try using it in NY City in A mode you will have to turn it off. Valentine didn't sell a detector for almost a year you would think it would detect low power K band. In NJ it's a great detector no MRCD/MRCT go over the bridge into NY and you risk getting nailed.
I have not found that at all. I've even run it on the highway with KV off. We may not have the density of BSM's that the states has, but it works here, Door openers are dealt with by quiet ride, lockouts and CF's.
 

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V1G2.

Why?
1) Because the V1G2 with JBV1 will even alert you to suspicious police aircraft!
2) Valentine customer service is superb. Escort? Don't make me laugh.
3) $250 cheaper.
 

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V1G2.

Why?
1) Because the V1G2 with JBV1 will even alert you to suspicious police aircraft!
2) Valentine customer service is superb. Escort? Don't make me laugh.
3) $250 cheaper.
I think that sums it up quite well, pay less and get more with the V1G2. Not really much more to say.
 

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I think that sums it up quite well, pay less and get more with the V1G2. Not really much more to say.
There is something definitely more to say in that you need to run a bleeping APP on your smartphone - which also needs to be mounted and used as a dedicated screen to see all those cool JBV1 features.

Comparing the V1 to the Redline is like comparing apples to oranges.
 

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There is something definitely more to say in that you need to run a bleeping APP on your smartphone - which also needs to be mounted and used as a dedicated screen to see all those cool JBV1 features.

Comparing the V1 to the Redline is like comparing apples to oranges.
Doesn't Escort Live use a smart phone and a smart phone mount?
 

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There is something definitely more to say in that you need to run a bleeping APP on your smartphone - which also needs to be mounted and used as a dedicated screen to see all those cool JBV1 features.

Comparing the V1 to the Redline is like comparing apples to oranges.
That's a matter of perspective in my opinion.
It's been quite a while, but I usually state it this way:
  • Instead of having a PCAS unit for aircraft I use an app.
  • Instead of also having a Cheetah unit for cameras, I have the same app.
  • Instead of having some sort of weather warning device, I again use the same app.
  • Instead of having something that allows me to mark, and be notified of specific spots of interest like known hiding spots; I have the same app.
  • Instead of having some custom, or outdated version of Waze; I use the same app.
  • Instead of using some sort of remote display to help hide the presence of my V1 above the mirror; I use an app.
  • Etc.
All of this is integrated on one screen and I can also use the same phone for regular phone type stuff at the same time. It doesn't have to be dedicated to JBV1 with the overlay feature.

BTW, How does a R360c display it's lockouts for you?

I don't need to carry all of those devices between cars. I can carry my V1 with a power supply and my smartphone (which I'm going to be carrying anyway) and I have everything that I normally use.
Smartphone apps are not a chore.
 
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