New Escort RDD?

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I have a Passport Max 2 in my daily, which I purchased used from a good friend 3 years ago. It has some issues, which i plan to have repaired once this current situation is over and Escort's lead times drop. However that being said it still does a good job, and i was really excited when i heard the rumors about the Max 3. I don't think i'm alone, in thinking that it was going to be a DSP successor to the Max 2 and Max II, with the new magnet mount. I was also hoping for WiFi but figured it was also a long shot.

I also have a Max 360c in my weekend car, where i care more about arrows and i've really grown to love the WiFi capabilities which i originally thought was kind of gimmicky.

I would love to upgrade my Passport Max 2, to something newer. However i feel stuck with Escort because i value the auto lockouts, with how much i drive for work. I would, personally, like a RDD that is basically the Max 360c without arrows, for about a $450 price range? I am not one of those who wants to use their phone in conjunction with my RDD, which is why i won't go for the V1G2. And WiFi on the 360c is great because i can just turn on my hotspot and stay up to date realtime with the defender database and get the speed limit displayed. So it's a hassle, imo, to have to run EL on my phone with my Max2. Right now actually bluetooth has quit working on my Max2 which is one of the issues i need repaired, so i can't connect it to EL right now even if i wanted to.

Am i in the minority? does anyone want a true digital Max 2 successor with WiFi?
With how great, i think, the R360c is, and most the bugs worked out of the M360c i feel like Escort is working their way back to the top from being shadowed by Uniden, and even the new V1G2, but i feel as though the Max3 was a mistake on their part. It should have been a new replacement ix, and they should have released a Max3c with the features i'm mentioning. Do you think it's something they still will in the near or even far future?

This whole post is just to get a discussion going. Get some thoughts of others. And maybe if enough are looking for the same thing i am, maybe Escort will listen and put something on their road map (wishful thinking, i know).
 

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The question(s) would be, did Escort rush the Max 3 removing the WiFi, only to add later? Was it to reduce cost? Did the WiFi create issues for the Detector to communicate/False to itself. Did they not see a market for the Max 3, as they didn't see it for the iXc or other detectors.

I value a detector that can communicate over the speakers in my car. One, I play music at a higher volume to enjoy and times hear over the Exhaust and Road Noise. If I had a Max 3 for me, WiFi can be removed, including all others... I don't have a hot spot and rely on my phone to BT.
 

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It would make sense for Escort to eventually replace the current iXc with a MAX 3c, thus consolidating its offerings to the MAX and Redline models.
 

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It would make sense for Escort to eventually replace the current iXc with a MAX 3c, thus consolidating its offerings to the MAX and Redline models.
I agree with this, however it would still be an analog M4 platform detector if they simply added wifi to the Max3. I think it's confusing they decided to call an analog detector "Max", as it's traditionally been digital up until now.

You could be right that they're wanting to have only two product line offerings for customers, but i still feel it's confusing marketing to have analog and digital detectors in the Max line. But maybe that's the point, because those of us who aren't enthusiasts don't know any better.
But i do feel that if you're not an enthusiast then you're not going to pay extra for the Escort line anyway, you'll go with a Cobra or other lower cost unit. I dunno...

I'd like to see an M5 or M6 platform detector without arrows, and wifi. I'd even pay a little extra if they came out with a new Redline without arrows, as long as it was digital and had WiFi, and wasn't a failure like the Redline EX was.

But if either of those options were even something they're thinking about, beggars can't be choosers i guess.
 

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Max 360c without arrows, for about a $450 price range

If they do it, it won't be at that price. Adding the "c" going from Max360 to Max 360c costs $150. So with the Max 3 at $400, figure a hypothetical Max3c at $500-550, and my bet would be on $550.
 

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I agree with this, however it would still be an analog M4 platform detector if they simply added wifi to the Max3. I think it's confusing they decided to call an analog detector "Max", as it's traditionally been digital up until now.
I was surprised too that they went analog (and its naming is definitely confusing), but from the results that others have posted with the MAX 3 to date, they seem to be pretty good (except for the quirk with Auto Mode).

I often have to remind myself that the infamous Redline-O is analog. Its only problem (we were told) was that it could not be easily filtered for BSMs as could be the up-and-coming all-digital models. All-digital was being sold as the new solution for BSMs, but it really took a long time to get it to where it is now. In the meantime, apparently analog IVT additions (the plus & plus plus horns) have been able to work some decent filtering into the front end. I think we all got so used to hearing that we needed to go all-digital to get the best of both worlds that our brains simply cannot go back., But, maybe that isn't necessarily the case and maybe some analog capabilities have likewise evolved over those years. But yes, it still is hard to keep those thoughts of not going backwards straight in one's head.
 

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I still don't know why the escort IX or IXc existed when they had a max II. The max II did everything the IX did and it was better and sells for cheaper.
 

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