The New BlackHole

Darkmann

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Nov 17, 2017
Messages
48
Reaction score
79
Got my RL360c on Saturday and went out testing - very impressive. This is the new noise sucking BlackHole. Out of the box, factory settings, using odometer, I clocked Ka ~3 miles ahead of me. LEO had stopped someone on my side of the road, meaning his radar was pointing forward, but away from me. That's phenomenal. I hope I can repeat such tests in the future. I manage 1.3 miles, consistently, with my iXc. The arrows work but can get confused occasionally (probably scatter from reflections). No BSM thus far, but I have had a couple K falses. Compared with the V2, I think that the biggest difference is ergonomics. The RL360 is just better ergonomically.
 

Signal Environment

PSL +5
Intermediate User
Joined
Apr 2, 2020
Messages
276
Reaction score
710
Anything you can highlight as far as the ergonomics? I'm still sitting on the fence about the V1G2. Loved my V1G1 until BSMs became such an issue. I like my Pro M (so compact and quiet!) but miss the arrows. Never been an Escort user but I always try to keep an open mind.
 

Darkmann

Learning to Drive
General User
Joined
Nov 17, 2017
Messages
48
Reaction score
79
Anything you can highlight as far as the ergonomics? I'm still sitting on the fence about the V1G2. Loved my V1G1 until BSMs became such an issue. I like my Pro M (so compact and quiet!) but miss the arrows. Never been an Escort user but I always try to keep an open mind.
1 - To use V2 to its fullest, you need an app. Two are available, one for Android and one for iOs - I believe they both cost $, not much, but.... The android is more popular (and probably more potent), so if you iOS like me, you are out - the iOS one is actually very very good. But just having to use an additional device to get the full spectrum of the V2 bothers me. If you like to tinker, the V2 is near perfect for that.
2 - I found the mount to be not very user friendly - I mount mine at the bottom of the windshield. I found that it's easy to take off, but to remount, one has to align slots on the RD to the mount. That's cumbersome to me.
3 - The arrows are better than Escorts. However, the display items have a purple background and when sun hits the display, it could be very difficult to read. Now, if you mount at top of windshield, this may not be an issue. I couldn't read the display at 9AM, with sun behind me.
4 - Lockouts - Escort has an advantage here with its database. My V2 was too noisy for me
5 - Display Logic: The arrows on the V2 dominate the screen and that's what you want. The next largest display item is on the left of the screen and that's the selected mode which is user controlled. The bands (K, Ka,...), which are not user controlled, show up as much smaller fonts when a source is detected. I'd have done it the other way - info which the user has no control over (like the radar bands) should light up distinctly and user controlled items should take less of a visual priority - the user set it, so they should not be reminded about what they already know.
6 - May not be of importance to all, but I like the Escort USB power plug. It is handy, even with available vehicle supplied USB ports. I have one older vehicle with no USB ports, hence my comment on USB power plug.
7 - Lack of GPS. VR is going to just do this. I never did try to update mine, but this may make updating easier.

Check out the V forum - lots to offer. My V2 performed extremely well. The arrows are second to none. For me, it just wasn't as plug'n play as I had hoped.
 
Last edited:

Signal Environment

PSL +5
Intermediate User
Joined
Apr 2, 2020
Messages
276
Reaction score
710
@Darkmann

Thanks, some good points to think about.

A couple notes/reactions:

App: I understand the reluctance. I didn't want to use the bluetooth dongle + app that the G1 needed. With built in bluetooth, I could be persuaded to give it a try. JBV1 is free. (That's the android app) though there's certainly some good karma to donating if one uses it and likes it, esp since the developer is a member here.

Mount: This is something for me to consider. It hasn't been a major concern for me, but I have definitely heard good things about the escort magnetic mount from users. So it might be one of those things that once you experience it you're hooked.

Escort database: I'm grumpier about paying for a subscription to the database than I am about having to use a phone and pay for an app once at most. But I could see both sides of the issue.

Display logic: as a previous V1 user I'm pretty used to the arrows and alert tones. Once you know the tones, seeing the band indicator is a non-issue. I can imagine it being an adjustment if you're used to looking at the unit for band/frequency info.

Check out the V forum: oh, it's already been brought-en. ;) I'm much more knowledgeable about the Valentine side of things than the Escort side. So I thank you for illustrating the thinking of a reasonable-sounding person who has tried both and has a different brand preference.
 

DrHow

Going “Plaid” ASAP (Tesla S) RDT refugee
Corgi Lovers
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
May 18, 2018
Messages
3,771
Reaction score
6,316
1 - To use V2 to its fullest, you need an app. Two are available, one for Android and one for iOs - I believe they both cost $, not much, but.... The android is more popular (and probably more potent), so if you iOS like me, you are out - the iOS one is actually very very good. But just having to use an additional device to get the full spectrum of the V2 bothers me. If you like to tinker, the V2 is near perfect for that.
2 - I found the mount to be not very user friendly - I mount mine at the bottom of the windshield. I found that it's easy to take off, but to remount, one has to align slots on the RD to the mount. That's cumbersome to me.
3 - The arrows are better than Escorts. However, the display items have a purple background and when sun hits the display, it could be very difficult to read. Now, if you mount at top of windshield, this may not be an issue. I couldn't read the display at 9AM, with sun behind me.
4 - Lockouts - Escort has an advantage here with its database. My V2 was too noisy for me
5 - Display Logic: The arrows on the V2 dominate the screen and that's what you want. The next largest display item is on the left of the screen and that's the selected mode which is user controlled. The bands (K, Ka,...), which are not user controlled, show up as much smaller fonts when a source is detected. I'd have done it the other way - info which the user has no control over (like the radar bands) should light up distinctly and user controlled items should take less of a visual priority - the user set it, so they should not be reminded about what they already know.
6 - May not be of importance to all, but I like the Escort USB power plug. It is handy, even with available vehicle supplied USB ports. I have one older vehicle with no USB ports, hence my comment on USB power plug.
7 - Lack of GPS. VR is going to just do this. I never did try to update mine, but this may make updating easier.

Check out the V forum - lots to offer. My V2 performed extremely well. The arrows are second to none. For me, it just wasn't as plug'n play as I had hoped.
One thing I keep forgetting to mention As a “feature” for 360c. Back lite buttons. For those who do not use app and mount the device mid-low in windshield. Helps. Personally I mount up at top. When updating devices noticed the back light. Does RL 360c have this feature too?

For me, if someone said I have to pick one between ER 360 platform and G2. G2 gets the nod. But, I do not have RL 360c, yet. That could change the outcome. Would be hard. G2 just works so well (for me, naked or using either of the apps).
 

Up All Night

Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2015
Messages
3,767
Reaction score
4,002
Location
Cleveland, OH
2 - I found the mount to be not very user friendly - I mount mine at the bottom of the windshield. I found that it's easy to take off, but to remount, one has to align slots on the RD to the mount. That's cumbersome to me.
I’ve made adapters for all my detectors so they mount to the Ecort magnet. Going from car to car is easy. Blendmount, visors & permanent mounts.
Posted from my iPhone using the RDF Mobile App!74F1C9DC-B387-48C6-8383-CE5204A23E15.jpeg9032C0B9-E5F7-45F8-B0EA-7A6A72279523.jpeg
 
Last edited:

TonyPHX

Learning to Fly
Beginner User
Joined
May 31, 2020
Messages
659
Reaction score
1,995
Location
Waddell, Arizona
Got my RL360c on Saturday and went out testing - very impressive. This is the new noise sucking BlackHole. Out of the box, factory settings, using odometer, I clocked Ka ~3 miles ahead of me. LEO had stopped someone on my side of the road, meaning his radar was pointing forward, but away from me. That's phenomenal. I hope I can repeat such tests in the future. I manage 1.3 miles, consistently, with my iXc. The arrows work but can get confused occasionally (probably scatter from reflections). No BSM thus far, but I have had a couple K falses. Compared with the V2, I think that the biggest difference is ergonomics. The RL360 is just better ergonomically.
That is perfect! I have found much the same. The range is "comforting". : )
 

Discord Server

Latest threads

Forum statistics

Threads
89,183
Messages
1,356,570
Members
22,452
Latest member
dcmackintosh
Top