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Hello all. I just discovered this Forum today and couldn't resist joining since I've lived in Edmonton about 35 years now and continue to receive my unfair share of speeding tickets; most of them being photo radar. I'm hardly alone since there's so much radar in this City. I'm using a Passport 9500ix detector now, which I've had for many years. It's high time I upgraded and most of the comments on this Forum for my City suggest that the Radenso Pro M is the one to get, unless I wait to see how the Radenso Theia compares once it's out "sometime this year" (?).

I'll post my questions in 2 areas: the portable radar detector and the installed detection system.

A. Portable detector:

Most people suggest that the Uniden R7 is too sensitive/noisy for Edmonton and doesn't pick up Edmonton's MRCT. Others suggest that the V1G2 isn't for Edmonton as well. I suspect that many on this Forum watch the Vortex Radar YouTube videos, as I do, and Ariel highly recommends the V1G2 and the Uniden R7. I'm not keen on the V1G2 since I'd miss the GPS function and don't want to marry it with my Smartphone (too lazy and not savvy enough) and I was going to buy the Uniden R7 until seeing some other reviews and more recently the comments on this Forum.

So I'm leaning towards the Radenso Pro M. I skimmed the Forum rules and didn't see any prohibitions about posting prices, so I'll mention I can get the Radenso Pro M for about C$650 + tax in my City and I'm told the Radenso Theia is expected to retail at around C$1,800+ and if so that would be a huge price jump. I didn't spend enough time listening to Ariel's comments on the Theia other than to know he thinks it might be a game-changer, so perhaps its Ai function and better range and better everything else will be worth the price?

However my understanding is that it will still be of limited use, detecting laser, like all portable radar detectors.

Any feedback on the above would be greatly appreciated.

B. Moving onto the installed system:

1) I'm waiting for my "new best friend" to arrive: a 2020 Corvette C8 convertible. With that I'd like to install my first jammer system and Ariel has me sold on the ALP system. The Stinger system looks tempting since it's so unobtrusive but I can't swallow its hefty price.
2) I've made some enquiries in Edmonton and one place has quoted C$6,000 to C$8,000 to install the Escort Max Ci 360 system which includes an estimated 15 hours of labour. That's for both a radar detector and jammer. Another shop said it wasn't a good system and I had to go with the Radenso RC M ALP5S system BUT I've been quoted a price of about C$10,000 to C$12,000 + tax installed, which includes 40 to 60 hours of labour (what?!). I don't know if the Radenso RC M is the equivalent of the Radenso Pro M. I assume the rest of the hardware would include a good ALP system but I didn't get into the number of front and rear sensors and what accessories were included, since I was somewhat stunned by the install hours.
3) But I don't want an integrated system since I want to transfer the portable radar detector from the Corvette ("summer" car only) to my winter car, leaving the Corvette with the only built-in LIDAR detecting system for the 2 vehicles. Or maybe I'm being overly cheap and shouldn't worry about having an extra portable unit in the winter car??
4) Someone on the Forum has recommended "Darcy" at Audio FX in Edmonton and that's someplace I've not yet contacted.

If anyone has any advice about the foregoing or better information about where to get a built-in laser detection system installed in Edmonton (preferably) or even Calgary if the 3 hours one-way is ++ justified, I'm all ears.

Sorry for the length of my first post but I thought I'd "bare my soul" when seeking advice. Nothing like jumping in with both feet and thanks for your patience...
 

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Welcome, with what you face a long intro post is totally appropriate!
 

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Welcome. Lots of great Edmonton members. The good news you know you need protection their...speed enforcement hell!
 

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Welcome, @jackhelmhold is more local to you and can offer more qualified opinions than I.
 

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Thanks for the tag @Smason

I run an R7 in Edmonton and absolutely love it. Was running an R3 before but the arrows on the R7 sold me into the upgrade.

EPS does not use K - band AT ALL which is where the R7 is noisy. So anytime I'm in the city I shut off K-band, and KA is always spot on with this detector.

Out of Edmonton on main highways it has its fair share of false K band alerts from the typical acuras/buicks/etc but nothing that has ever bothered me and after awhile you are able to tell the difference between real and fake because you can easily spot the make of vehicle ahead of you.

It is annoying having to turn on/off K-band and I do sometimes forget to turn it on before I get out on the highways but it's a small issue with a great detector

I also run ALP's (just fronts, in the process of purchasing a rear set up) and they have been incredible here. My best save was 53km/h over when it drops from 110-90-80 coming off of highway 2 onto the henday... Paid for itself as that would have been an automatic court date.

My boss and I were able to install the jammers ourselves. It honestly isn't that complicated to do. You have to have some knowledge of wire tapping and stuff like that to be able to do it but overall it wasn't too terrible.

If you want to save some money I could get you in contact with my boss when your C8 arrives as my boss actually worked for GM for many years before Becoming the GSM at the dealership I work at.

He has installed jammers on most of his company vehicles including camaros, tahoes, Yukon's, and his own personal ATS-V. He has also installed on my SQ5 and my buddies S5.

He is absolutely obsessed with the new C8's, and I'm sure if his help interested you that he would help you out for a bottle of wine and a ride(or spin) in the C8!

Obviously the setup won't be as professional as a shops would be but functions just as well, and it saves $3-5k which is absolutely insane for jammer installs.

If you do want to get them professionally installed I would recommend checking out Vibe Car Audio. They do incredible installs and actually have a dragoneye laser gun to test with which most shops don't. These guys also held a laser testing meet up last summer where a bunch of the forum members came and tested their setups (they are active on the forum I think it's just @VibeCarAudio and they post alot of their setups)

If you have any other questions feel free to ask! I am still young (only 19) and new to this, but have learned so much from the members of this forum as they are all amazing down to earth people.

I am actually moving to kelowna on August 6th so sadly im going to have to face a completely different type of enforcement

EDIT: ALSO! When buying your ALP's I'd recommend NOT buying them through most* shops as they have a nice markup, but instead order them from kmph.ca, Alex is the guy who runs it and is absolutely amazing for support and fulfilling orders. He's based out of Vancouver. All of my friends running ALP'S have all purchased through him

*I say most cause some ethical shops don't, but for example visions has an insane markup on them


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Welcome, @jackhelmhold is more local to you and can offer more qualified opinions than I.

might need some of your insight soon! moving to kelowna on August 6th, and dating a girl who just moved to Vancouver so going to be making constant trips between van - kelowna.


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might need some of your insight soon! moving to kelowna on August 6th, and dating a girl who just moved to Vancouver so going to be making constant trips between van - kelowna.


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Ill be doing a back and forth between Kelowna and Van aswell, once UBCO is back open.
 

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Ill be doing a back and forth between Kelowna and Van aswell, once UBCO is back open.

that's awesome! Was going to be heading into UBCO but didn't want to begin my degree while online so attending okanagan college this year instead!

Will have to coordinate some drives together!

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Thanks for all your advice “jackhelmhold”. Much appreciated. I’ll call kmph.ca to get their advice and prices. I did talk to Visions today and was told they don’t mark up their hardware which sounded strange and knowing the cost of that hardware from kmph.ca will be helpful when shopping around. I’m not sure about using your boss for the install since I’ll be quite picky for the job done and it’s appearance and would prefer a warranty. And I’ll look into Vibe Car Audio. Thanks again!
 

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I’d recommend Radenso and a full ALP set up.

You need MRCD, Gatso (Mesta Fusion) and Dragoneye protection.

There is also Dragoneye photo Lidar enforcement in Edmonton.

Don’t worry about the MRCT RLC’s too much. Most of them are in the detectors database. Because we only have rear plates, they’re all facing away from you, are high up, and detection from all the detectors, no matter the brand, are pretty much useless. Just watch for the signage at all 4 corners and the RLC database alerts.

Some of the MRCT RLC’s are being replaced by Mesta Fusions (Gatso). Case in point. The one at the end of Gretzky freeway NB and 118 ave. That’s already been switched over.

For the MRCD trucks.... it Radenso hands down as the most dependable and longest range against these threat. The Uniden’s have been going backwards in MRCD detection the last couple of FW releases.

True... there is no K band in the city limits, but you will find it all around the outskirts. Especially where the Alberta Sheriff’s are patrolling.

The east leg of the Henday is not patrolled by EPS. It falls under the Alberta Sheriff’s and the RCMP from Sherwood Park. You can see almost everything except photo radar or Lidar. You will see K, Ka, and different types of Lidar. Mostly rear Dragon hits from the overpasses, with chase cars getting the radio call to pull you over.

I have pretty much all the detectors that can detect MRCD and test them. I personally run the Radenso RC-M with both antennas bridged together with the 6 head ALP system.
If I take my wife’s ride, I’ll grab the Radenso Pro-M before I grab anything else..... even though I have the rest of them.

I only use the Escorts and Uniden’s sparingly. Just to check on things after a FW release, or comparison testing. They’re ok detectors, but for the threats you’ll see in Edmonton, particularly MRCD.... the Radenso’s are the best choice. It’s also the quietest.
 

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For Edmonton.
I’d recommend Radenso and a full ALP set up.

You need MRCD, Gatso (Mesta Fusion) and Dragoneye protection.

There is also Dragoneye photo Lidar enforcement in Edmonton.

Don’t worry about the MRCT RLC’s too much. Most of them are in the detectors database. Because we only have rear plates, they’re all facing away from you, are high up, and detection from all the detectors, no matter the brand, are pretty much useless. Just watch for the signage at all 4 corners and the RLC database alerts.

Some of the MRCT RLC’s are being replaced by Mesta Fusions (Gatso). Case in point. The one at the end of Gretzky freeway NB and 118 ave. That’s already been switched over.

For the MRCD trucks.... it Radenso hands down as the most dependable and longest range against these threat. The Uniden’s have been going backwards in MRCD detection the last couple of FW releases.

True... there is no K band in the city limits, but you will find it all around the outskirts. Especially where the Alberta Sheriff’s are patrolling.

The east leg of the Henday is not patrolled by EPS. It falls under the Alberta Sheriff’s and the RCMP from Sherwood Park. You can see almost everything except photo radar or Lidar. You will see K, Ka, and different types of Lidar. Mostly rear Dragon hits from the overpasses, with chase cars getting the radio call to pull you over.

I have pretty much all the detectors that can detect MRCD and test them. I personally run the Radenso RC-M with both antennas bridged together with the 6 head ALP system.
If I take my wife’s ride, I’ll grab the Radenso Pro-M before I grab anything else..... even though I have the rest of them.

I only use the Escorts and Uniden’s sparingly. Just to check on things after a FW release, or comparison testing. They’re ok detectors, but for the threats you’ll see in Edmonton, particularly MRCD.... the Radenso’s are the best choice. It’s also the quietest.

Thanks for that informative reply. That pushes me over the edge and I’ll buy the Radenso Pro M. Speaking with Visions yesterday, they said Theia might come out at C$1200 to $1400 so lower than I’d been told previously but who knows when it’ll be released and it will take some time for the reviews to sink in, so I’ll not wait for it and enjoy better protection now.
 

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