Does GPS need to see the windshield?

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One of the issues which has kept me from getting into the GPS detector arena is the size of some of the mounts (Ya you, Escort). This has me thinking, is the Escort mount designed to keep the detector in view of the windshield? I keep my V1 tucked up neatly at the top of the windshield. I like this because it runs cooler in AZ and it is not easily seen by cops. I've seen the blendmount and still don't like it anymore than a tree hanging from my mirror. Please give me feedback on tucking a GPS detector at the top of my windshield and if this will hinder the GPS performance.
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Ok, I dug into an iX manual and see Escort does recommend a clear view of the sky. But there has to be a more discrete mount allowing me to tuck it away at the top of the windshield. Help me out guys.
 
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One of the issues which has kept me from getting into the GPS detector arena is the size of some of the mounts (Ya you, Escort). This has me thinking, is the Escort mount designed to keep the detector in view of the windshield? I keep my V1 tucked up neatly at the top of the windshield. I like this because it runs cooler in AZ and it is not easily seen by cops. I've seen the blendmount and still don't like it anymore than a tree hanging from my mirror. Please give me feedback on tucking a GPS detector at the top of my windshield and if this will hinder the GPS performance.
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Ok, I dug into an iX manual and see Escort does recommend a clear view of the sky. But there has to be a more discrete mount allowing me to tuck it away at the top of the windshield. Help me out guys.
I have mine mounted high, just above mirror level and close to the top of my windshield with no issues. I've had it all the way to the top with no issues but lowered it due to my tint.
 

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Here is another one mounted high, level with upper rear view mirror surface.
It gets great GPS reception there. Just can't do anything like a visor mount where it is completely under the roof line.

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I am using blendmount without any GPS problem, even with big chunk of modern driving aid equipments such as LDA camera, auto high beam camera, and other sensors on top of the area.
 

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Hi All,

I've got my new RL360c mounted up as high as the sticky cup will get a good grip on, before the glass edge, at the very top of the windshield, and as far left along the A-post as possible. I have only lost GPS once with this configuration, and that was when I traveled into downtown, surrounded by very tall, skyscrapers. The same holds true in my past vehicles with similar mounting positions.

Please see attached. I mount this behind a CERAMIC tint band from Llumar. Details here:

As you can see, this manufactured tint product allows for electronic signals to penetrate with ease, and I have tested this brand of tint, by mounting the detector below the band edge, and even before I had the tint installed.. There is no appreciable difference in the detection range. My two separate RFID toll passes also work without a hitch. Llumar is not the only tint manufacture that makes this sort of thing. I would just make sure that if you do have something like this, that your installer actually uses the ceramic, which is more expensive, at least for this product line.

This configuration achieves a few things:
1.) It keeps the thing cool, when under the roof of the car, and behind the tint band.
2.) I never have to pull it down. It discourages thieves who may be looking to score one, and from any angle: How?
A.) It's a 5% VTL tint band, limo black, and you can't see it very easily, if at all, from the front, and especially at night.
B.) Because of the body style of my particular vehicle, (2018 Volvo XC-60), the position along the A-post also prevents it from being seen while standing outside of the car on the drivers side, as it's tucked behind the A-post. You literally have to almost put your head inside the drivers window to see it up there, in case I ever do get pulled over... ;-)

Caveats:
1.) I have it this way in my current vehicle, but I have chosen the passenger side A-post in the past, in other vehicles. This due to the fact that my sun-visor would not fully extend down with it mounted on the drivers side.
2.) My current position does cause a horizontal off-axis condition, wherein the detector is now slightly pointed to the left Vs. straight down the center of the road. It's only about a 3-4 degree leftward shift from center, and again, I notice no appreciable degradation in detection performance.
3..) I choose this location as it keeps it away from the Camera/Radar transmitter my Volvo has behind the mirror. They are at a completely different frequency than the X, K, and Ka bands (68-70 something GHz?) , but I've found I get occasional spurious false alerts and degraded range detection performance when mounted close to center-line of the vehicle, against the black colored plastic housing behind the mirror, where the transmitter is kept.
4.) I'm pretty sure that being mounted close up along the A-post is SAFETY concern for the occupants, especially the driver, and not just for my vehicle, but for anyone that has SIDE-IMPACT air curtains. My A-post clearly has an SRS emblem on it. There's a high powered air-bag behind it, and I'm sure if it ever goes off, the detector will be thrown for a pretty powerful ride, hopefully not impacting my skull in the process. For sure this may also cause the air-bag not to function as designed, as it's proper deployment will be impeded by the obstruction I've created. YMMV... I'm willing to accept the risks.
5.) My vehicle has a HUGE open sun-roof that spans almost the entire roof. I'm sure this helps my RL360c to get more of a GPS signal from the top, but as I stated before, I have mounted this way in other vehicles in the past, without such sunroof, and have not had a problem.
5.) Lastly, and as a reminder, putting it up this high can create a degradation in Laser detection, as the sensor is now so high up, it does not have a clear view to the rear window. I'm willing to take that risk.

Hope this helps?
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My detectors on all three cars are mounted as high as the sticky cup allows and I don't have any issues.
 

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I have my 360 in a Blendmount directly under the rearview mirror in my '15 Camry. No problems with GPS, but the magnet that was inside the detector totally messed up the compass in the mirror. Recalibration wouldn't fix it so I ended up pulling the cover off the 360 and removing the magnet. Life's been good ever since.
 

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I have my 360 in a Blendmount directly under the rearview mirror in my '15 Camry. No problems with GPS, but the magnet that was inside the detector totally messed up the compass in the mirror. Recalibration wouldn't fix it so I ended up pulling the cover off the 360 and removing the magnet. Life's been good ever since.
With no magnet, how does the mount work?
 

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My thought exactly!

Mine is hanging on a BlendMount. How without the magnet? Have you adapted a different mount?

I will have to check out the compass in my mirror.
 

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This looks like a case for a GPS repeater. I remember seeing a thread on here or elsewhere years ago for a system that could be used in a car.

I don't want to post a link, but a search for "car gps repeater' will produce a kit with a receiver antenna with magnet base for the roof and a transmitter for inside the car, with a 12V plug or USB connector.
 

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With no magnet, how does the mount work?
With the Escort sticky cup, probably not too well. However the Blendmount's clip relies on strong friction with the detector's receptacle. It ain't goin' nowhere!
 

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Are you using a BlendMount adapter from a different detector?

The Redline 360c adapter from BlendMount uses the magnet that is removed from the Escort supplied sticky cup and installed on the BlendMount adapter. There is no clip. At least that is what was supplied to me by BlendMount.
 

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Like I said in my original post and as is in my sig, I have the 360...the original 360. Sorry if that wasn't totally clear.
 

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I never liked the mount design before i got it. After having it, it is much better. Sticks better. Have still had it fall of a couple times, usually when i hadn't drove for a couple days and it sat in the sun. Only rds have 2 cups, if anything, the 1 big cup makes it look more like a gps, at least to oncoming traffic.

I have mine pretty much in the middle, just above the top of the back seats. In the past always went as low as possible but high enough to see through the back window. Have gotten a couple laser hits on it. When i got this one, was goona mount it high but it messes with my compass in the mirror too
 

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I have been having intermittent GPS issues when my R360C is mounted under the rearview mirror using the blendmount. I know the GPS works fine because when it does retrieve signal it works great. However, sometimes I'll hop in the car and the GPS works, other times I have to physically take the detector off of the mount, hold it by the windshield and it'll get the GPS signal. I've lost GPS signal more times than I can count and I've never had GPS issues with my Max 360C. It could be the way that it's mounted, but I doubt it. As I mentioned, it's extremely intermittent. Now when I hop in the car, I open the sun roof and it'll work but sometimes it won't... If I don't remove the detector from the mount and I travel to my destination, it may or may not retrieve GPS signal the entire trip. The GPS chip on the R360C is directly under the blend mount's "arm" and I know that the metal can interfere with the signal so it could be user error but I don't know.
 
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My R360c hangs under a BlendMount and the only time I got a GPS signal loss message was when I was sitting in traffic under an elevated highway it promptly reconnected. Unfortunately, you probably need to send the unit back for service.
 
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I had no gps issues with my max 360 mounted high. However, I did have issues with light sensor and the screen dimming because how it was mounted.
 

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I never have any issues with either my Max360c or R3 with GPS connectivity when mounted up high near the top of the headliner.

I do agree that the Escort Mag mount is bulky. When running my Max360c, I mount the Mag mount right up against the headliner, and I have no issues or problems with GPS connectivity.


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