Going “Plaid” ASAP (Tesla S) RDT refugee
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- May 18, 2018
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Ditto on everything complimentary indicated above. I will add, nothing better for chuck hole ridden winter streets, and cold patched chuck holes in summer. No bent rims, no jarring, just glides along. Wife and engineers that go with me for biz trips, request the Raptor over anything else. Unless they want to sit in the back of the G90. The mild LFP/Roush tune added right at 100hp, plus another 100lb of torque. easy pump gas. It is fast for such heavy beast. Until the Cyber Truck on order is built, this is King Kong of fleet. I do not miss a V8 at all. This version is the Ford GT motor detuned. Fathouse fabrication here in Indiana, or Lebanon Ford Performance, next door in Ohio have these running 700hp+ at wheels for daily use, higher for the extreme. Ford will not sit on their arse for next gen. In meantime, us Raptor owners bask in our high resale value when the day comes to make a change.Sorry, just saw this. The COBB 1+. Our problem here is that we cannot get 93 Oct, so I have to run a 91 Oct tune.
The truck was exceptionally good stock. The lag was not an issue in Normal mode, to be sure it was there but very minor and not an issue day-to-day, significantly less than other EB motors I have driven, and it was essentially none-existent in Sport or Baja mode. I threw the tune at it more out of curiosity than anything else. A 5 second 0-60 truck running 35" tires is simply a lot of fun.
I have about 56000 miles on my 2018 now (I have owned it for about 28 months), and thousands of miles of that are off road. It is in the dirt near daily and on the trail every other week or so, at least once a month. The only complaints I have about the truck are it really should have a V-8 in it, even if just for the sound (it makes plenty of power with the V-6, even on the stock tune, but come on man, it sounds like a Honda on steroids), and it is simply too big for a lot of the places I like to take it.
Don't get me wrong, even if I get a Bronco, I will not be getting rid of the Raptor (although I could talk myself into replacing it with another Raptor, if Ford goes V-8 in the Raptor). As a travel truck, over the road, it is unsurpassed. The soft off-road suspension and the big tires make it glide on the highway. For comfort it is like driving my living room couch, if my couch had heated and air conditioned seats, 500+ HP, and Sport mode. If we have a long trip planned my wife always assumes we will take the Raptor vs anything else we own. Her Lincoln has one fifth the miles on it, and is the same year. Then again, we like fun vehicles, the Miata has more mileage than the Raptor and has gone coast to coast a few times and most of my other vehicles are pre-smog classics.
And we got the Raptor on a lark. I was looking at Chevrolet trucks, my wife wanted to just see what the Raptor looked like inside. The sales guy talked us into a test drive (as is their job) and before we had gone a mile in the truck my wife told me "if you don't buy this thing I am going to".
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Don’t sell the Raptor short for average Joes like me regarding rock crawling, or sand. The Raptor Experience showed me that. Great school. And we got to run a “Baja“ like course at high speed. When someone asks how fast mine is if needing to run from the law. I suggest it doesn’t matter much. Hard for LEO to follow at 85-120 through the corn fields, dips, Dirt roads, or outback.Yeah, but I was talking about that motor for the F-150 Raptor as an answer to the Ram TRX. The F-150 Raptor is not a crawler, it is much more of a Baja truck. They took a street legal, very near stock (safety gear and modified versions of the factory shocks added), 2017 Gen 2 Raptor to the Baja 1000 and finished, placing 3rd in class. They drove that truck to and from the Baja 1000, and (I think) it was the only truck in class that was not trailered to and from. The truck can handle other types of off-roading, but high speed desert running is its forte (and barroom/online bragging). I think the GT500 motor might be a fair fit, especially if they are aiming to compete with the TRX using something they already have in house. To do that they need something in the 600+ HP range, and really over 707 HP. Doing that with any of their other V-8s will end up costing them a lot of weight.
With regards to the Bronco, and a possibly Raptorized version of it, the current F-150 Raptor HO 3.5 EB would fit pretty neatly, be in the 450 HP / 510 lb-ft region, and probably lighter than any V-8 making equal power. To make a special version of the Bronco they need more power than what the 2.7 EB gives, but they also need to not fatten the Bronco up a lot. It seems to me a larger V-6 EB is much more in line with Fords thinking these days than a V-8.
I would love to see Ford develop a V-8 EB, maybe a TT 4.0L or something like that. Augmenting their NA V-8s with something a bit more modern could be interesting. But I just don't think it will happen.
Don't get me wrong, I love NA or superchargers much more than I like Turbos. But, I think Ford is on the EB bandwagon for the long run. Or EB hybrid combined with electrics.