Redline 360c is a BEAST!!

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Alright everyone!!! Just posted a new video that you all can check out. Highlights:

- IT’S ALIVE
- Great Run
- Ka 34.7
- 2.3 miles - Front Horn
- 2.1 miles - Rear Horn
- Ramp up is 1,000,000 times better
- Signal strength held entire run
- Spec FR1
- Arrows flipped (still getting reflection where arrows will flip to front and then back to rear - probably from very strong front horns)

Check out this video I made showing all the goodies above:


@Vortex


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- Blendmount With Hardwire
- 2014 Porsche Cayenne GTS
- Location: SW Florida
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Alright everyone!!! Just posted a new video that you all can check out. Highlights:

- IT’S ALIVE
- Great Run
- Ka 34.7
- 2.3 miles - Front Horn
- 2.1 miles - Rear Horn
- Ramp up is 1,000,000 times better
- Signal strength held entire run
- Spec FR1
- Arrows flipped (still getting reflection where arrows will flip to front and then back to rear - probably from very strong front horns)

Check out this video I made showing all the goodies above:


@Vortex


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- Escort Redline 360c
- Blendmount With Hardwire
- 2014 Porsche Cayenne GTS
- Location: SW Florida
- @TheBlackKnight239 (Instagram)
- YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7xTMoTIF7tLt0FnNq_-ebA
Good video. Man, the way the camera bounces around on flat road you must have a very stiff suspension on the Cayenne!
 

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Nice....Thanks for sharing....

I see he had both his front and rear antenna on which caused strong signals from both directions and definitely will make some arrows dance...

Approaching---34.665

After you passed----34.699
 

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Alright everyone!!! Just posted a new video that you all can check out. Highlights:

- IT’S ALIVE
- Great Run
- Ka 34.7
- 2.3 miles - Front Horn
- 2.1 miles - Rear Horn
- Ramp up is 1,000,000 times better
- Signal strength held entire run
- Spec FR1
- Arrows flipped (still getting reflection where arrows will flip to front and then back to rear - probably from very strong front horns)

Check out this video I made showing all the goodies above:


@Vortex


—-————————————————————
- Escort Redline 360c
- Blendmount With Hardwire
- 2014 Porsche Cayenne GTS
- Location: SW Florida
- @TheBlackKnight239 (Instagram)
- YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7xTMoTIF7tLt0FnNq_-ebA
Just wow. Ordered mine last night to replace the Max 360C. In the few years I’ve had my Max I’ve never experienced even close to that level of range.
 

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Good video. Man, the way the camera bounces around on flat road you must have a very stiff suspension on the Cayenne!
I have it in “sport mode” and the suspense tightens up.... My GTS runs on an air suspension with 5 different settings. I will change to “comfort” next time to try and eliminate the bouncing. It is tough because I do not have a dash cam yet, and I am literally getting an alert and grabbing the phone to log the experience. (I was hoping no one would notice....). Lol!


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- Escort Redline 360c
- Blendmount With Hardwire
- 2014 Porsche Cayenne GTS
- Location: SW Florida
- @TheBlackKnight239 (Instagram)
- YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7xTMoTIF7tLt0FnNq_-ebA
 

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I had similar range today of nearly 2 miles on Ka (no video). I was SERIOUSLY impressed by front and rear Ka Detection!
Me too! That is way enough time to slow down. I am in south Florida and everything is flat, so I should always get a pretty long detection.


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- Escort Redline 360c
- Blendmount With Hardwire
- 2014 Porsche Cayenne GTS
- Location: SW Florida
- @TheBlackKnight239 (Instagram)
- YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7xTMoTIF7tLt0FnNq_-ebA
 

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Nice....Thanks for sharing....

I see he had both his front and rear antenna on which caused strong signals from both directions and definitely will make some arrows dance...

Approaching---34.665

After you passed----34.699
So ok, help me out here. Do the arrows on the V1 and the R7 jump around like that as well? I'm running a M360 and the arrows are pretty stable.
 

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So ok, help me out here. Do the arrows on the V1 and the R7 jump around like that as well? I'm running a M360 and the arrows are pretty stable.
I don’t have an R7, but I do have a V1G2 and Max360c, and I will have to say my Max360c arrows transition smoother than my V1G2. My Max360c arrows aren’t perfect, but they work very well especially compared to my V1G2. I think when the Max360 was introduced it had “issues” with the arrows transitioning smoothly, and Escort has been able to solve and improve that with firmware updates.

From what I have read and many have reported the arrow transition is better under the new firmware 1.3, and I am sure the people at Escort were working long hours to get this new firmware out after the less than positive experiences many on the RDF (and probably general public too) had with the initial launch.

I would imagine that Escort will be working on more firmware updates in the near future since this is their new flagship model and expectations are high (for many) as the price is high. For some people that haven’t had recent positive experiences with Escort products , their expectations may not be that high for the R360c.

If I am shelling out $749.95 plus tax for the R360c, I can guarantee you I am going to have high expectations especially after seeing the ads, marketing, and R360c launch webinar. I definitely want to see the R360c be a worthy successor to the Redline-O.


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I don’t have an R7, but I do have a V1G2 and Max360c, and I will have to say my Max360c arrows transition smoother than my V1G2. My Max360c arrows aren’t perfect, but they work very well especially compared to my V1G2. I think when the Max360 was introduced it had “issues” with the arrows transitioning smoothly, and Escort has been able to solve and improve that with firmware updates.

From what I have read and many have reported the arrow transition is better under the new firmware 1.3, and I am sure the people at Escort were working long hours to get this new firmware out after the less than positive experiences many on the RDF (and probably general public too) had with the initial launch.

I would imagine that Escort will be working on more firmware updates in the near future since this is their new flagship model and expectations are high (for many) as the price is high. For some people that haven’t had recent positive experiences with Escort products , their expectations may not be that high for the R360c.

If I am shelling out $749.95 plus tax for the R360c, I can guarantee you I am going to have high expectations especially after seeing the ads, marketing, and R360c launch webinar. I definitely want to see the R360c be a worthy successor to the Redline-O.


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Thanks for the response. I was really curious about the "dancing" arrows. My original Max360 is very stable concerning the arrows and I don't get very many BSM falses.
 

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So ok, help me out here. Do the arrows on the V1 and the R7 jump around like that as well? I'm running a M360 and the arrows are pretty stable.
This also applies to @RoadDogg. The V1 history of arrow reaction is different by design than what I think of others application of arrows. Most others arrows “flip” as is said. So, how they flip determines how most of us feel they work.

V1 platform IS different. Always has been. The arrow notification is used for more than flipping from front-mid-back. For example, you see the V1 arrow blink. That shows the strongest signal it is alerting to. Yet, you can see in situations of multiple radar steady arrow indication for the other directions. At times, all three LED arrow indicators are lit, and one will be blinking (and will shift depending on which area Has the strongest alerted signal). This can confuse people who think its transition is off. It is working as designed.

Plus in single radar alert, the above can also happen. Which gets some who are used to the simple translation of arrows confused it is not working.

The V1 arrows show the user radar signal data in a couple of ways. The way the arrows work is one. For example over the decades, I found I could tell not only which direction the Primary radar was coming from, but also how that signal was ghosting from highway signs, or whatever, it gave me a better sense of not just direction, but awareness. This is especially true when dealing with multiple signals. We have all read the VR car mag ad where a customer talks about knowing there are more than one “bogie” out there, or how a cop is treating radar use. Arrow reaction helps with this. The arrows on V1 help show real well, multiple threats or a cop using two transmitters, or a wolf pack. It shows the strongest one blinking in its direction, yet shows others in same direction, or different directions.

Other brands I own, IMO do not do this or do not do it effectively.

For many recent years, I had retired my V1s. Even with ESP, too noisy for me (other have different opinion, get that). I got used to the more simple arrow presentation by other brands. When I got the G2s, I was back in business using the raw less sanitized arrow presentation. I like it better. Glad to be back. However, all this is kinda a “what you like” discussion. I do not want people to mistake how V1 arrows are designed to work as something Somone thinks is more cluttered or too busy as bad software.

Caveat: Many of us know that VR still have some work to do with the G2 on showing actual ghosted signals (reflections from the actual radar as slightly slower timing to the antenna) As showing up on the counter (and apps) as many new/different signals. I am NOT talking about this. There is something in the FW that takes the same signal time delayed (from ghost/reflection) even on same frequency, and shows these as new signals which would be different/new frequencies how it used to display). Ver 19 seems to have helped Somewhat with this semi rare oddity.
 

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Nice....Thanks for sharing....

I see he had both his front and rear antenna on which caused strong signals from both directions and definitely will make some arrows dance...

Approaching---34.665

After you passed----34.699
That should be Doppler shift. Waves slightly compressed when traveling toward, and sightly elongated (or at least back to normal length) when traveling away.

Same thing happens to the pitch of a car horn when it comes toward you then passes.
 
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Thanks for the response. I was really curious about the "dancing" arrows. My original Max360 is very stable concerning the arrows and I don't get very many BSM falses.
My Max360c is very stable on the arrows as well. I used my Max360c yesterday, and I had several radar encounters, and the arrows transitioned very well and smoothly as I passed the radar sources. My V1G1’s were always spot on as well. My V1G2 arrow transitioning are good, but they could use some “tweaks” in a firmware update.

As I have mentioned before, it appears that Escort has made a significant improvement on the R360c’s arrows in terms of transitioning in firmware 1.3, and hopefully they will continue to make refinements and improvements to the R360c firmware in the future.

Arrows are very helpful while driving at night, so for me, as long as the arrow transition is close or semi accurate, I am ok with that. Some arrow confusion is to be expected depending what is in front of you (overpasses, large signs, large truck trailers, etc) and how many radar antennas on on in the LEO vehicle, and how many LEO’s are running radar in the area, etc.

I am glad we have additional choices with the R360c being introduced. Personally, I am waiting and seeing how the R360c develops as more people have more driving time with firmware 1.3. I would consider upgrading to the R360c from my Max360c as long as I can justify that it is a moderate to significant upgrade in performance.

If I could get more product stability, good to very good BSM filtering, and a moderate to significant increase in 35.5 sensitivity and performance with the R360c over the Max360c, I would be willing to sell my Max360c and use those funds towards a R360c.

I appreciate all of the early R360c purchasers giving feedback, posting videos, and sharing with the RDF community their experiences with the new R360c.


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This also applies to @RoadDogg. The V1 history of arrow reaction is different by design than what I think of others application of arrows. Most others arrows “flip” as is said. So, how they flip determines how most of us feel they work.

V1 platform IS different. Always has been. The arrow notification is used for more than flipping from front-mid-back. For example, you see the V1 arrow blink. That shows the strongest signal it is alerting to. Yet, you can see in situations of multiple radar steady arrow indication for the other directions. At times, all three LED arrow indicators are lit, and one will be blinking (and will shift depending on which area Has the strongest alerted signal). This can confuse people who think its transition is off. It is working as designed.

Plus in single radar alert, the above can also happen. Which gets some who are used to the simple translation of arrows confused it is not working.

The V1 arrows show the user radar signal data in a couple of ways. The way the arrows work is one. For example over the decades, I found I could tell not only which direction the Primary radar was coming from, but also how that signal was ghosting from highway signs, or whatever, it gave me a better sense of not just direction, but awareness. This is especially true when dealing with multiple signals. We have all read the VR car mag ad where a customer talks about knowing there are more than one “bogie” out there, or how a cop is treating radar use. Arrow reaction helps with this. The arrows on V1 help show real well, multiple threats or a cop using two transmitters, or a wolf pack. It shows the strongest one blinking in its direction, yet shows others in same direction, or different directions.

Other brands I own, IMO do not do this or do not do it effectively.

For many recent years, I had retired my V1s. Even with ESP, too noisy for me (other have different opinion, get that). I got used to the more simple arrow presentation by other brands. When I got the G2s, I was back in business using the raw less sanitized arrow presentation. I like it better. Glad to be back. However, all this is kinda a “what you like” discussion. I do not want people to mistake how V1 arrows are designed to work as something Somone thinks is more cluttered or too busy as bad software.

Caveat: Many of us know that VR still have some work to do with the G2 on showing actual ghosted signals (reflections from the actual radar as slightly slower timing to the antenna) As showing up on the counter (and apps) as many new/different signals. I am NOT talking about this. There is something in the FW that takes the same signal time delayed (from ghost/reflection) even on same frequency, and shows these as new signals which would be different/new frequencies how it used to display). Ver 19 seems to have helped Somewhat with this semi rare oddity.
Thanks for the information! I learned a lot about the V1, I was not aware of how intricate the information is that's available from the V1's arrows.
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My Max360c is very stable on the arrows as well. I used my Max360c yesterday, and I had several radar encounters, and the arrows transitioned very well and smoothly as I passed the radar sources. My V1G1’s were always spot on as well. My V1G2 arrow transitioning are good, but they could use some “tweaks” in a firmware update.

As I have mentioned before, it appears that Escort has made a significant improvement on the R360c’s arrows in terms of transitioning in firmware 1.3, and hopefully they will continue to make refinements and improvements to the R360c firmware in the future.

Arrows are very helpful while driving at night, so for me, as long as the arrow transition is close or semi accurate, I am ok with that. Some arrow confusion is to be expected depending what is in front of you (overpasses, large signs, large truck trailers, etc) and how many radar antennas on on in the LEO vehicle, and how many LEO’s are running radar in the area, etc.

I am glad we have additional choices with the R360c being introduced. Personally, I am waiting and seeing how the R360c develops as more people have more driving time with firmware 1.3. I would consider upgrading to the R360c from my Max360c as long as I can justify that it is a moderate to significant upgrade in performance.

If I could get more product stability, good to very good BSM filtering, and a moderate to significant increase in 35.5 sensitivity and performance with the R360c over the Max360c, I would be willing to sell my Max360c and use those funds towards a R360c.

I appreciate all of the early R360c purchasers giving feedback, posting videos, and sharing with the RDF community their experiences with the new R360c.


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Well said. I'm waiting to see what Theia brings to the party. If they continue to improve the RL360C and they have comparable range and BSM then I will have a tough decision.
 
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I'm not overly excited by this post. I own R1, (2) R3, R7, (2) V1,(2) V1GEN2, RL-O and Max360c. I live in the Texas Panhandle. I see ka 34.7 and some 35.5..& k band. The R series are absolute BEAST! I've had 8 mile detections! Verified by video! The RL-O was a beast! Verified by video! My Max360c had a maximum 3.5 miles on the side of the road @3.5 miles! This is awesome, but no R series or V1.2! I'm not bashing any of these detectors, but for $750+ tax, it should wipe my ass for me! A sub $200 R1 will beat it on range! Watch for upcoming testing! V1.2 and R series are a better deal!
 

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I'm not overly excited by this post. I own R1, (2) R3, R7, (2) V1,(2) V1GEN2, RL-O and Max360c. I live in the Texas Panhandle. I see ka 34.7 and some 35.5..& k band. The R series are absolute BEAST! I've had 8 mile detections! Verified by video! The RL-O was a beast! Verified by video! My Max360c had a maximum 3.5 miles on the side of the road @3.5 miles! This is awesome, but no R series or V1.2! I'm not bashing any of these detectors, but for $750+ tax, it should wipe my ass for me! A sub $200 R1 will beat it on range! Watch for upcoming testing! V1.2 and R series are a better deal!
While I agree with you on the Redline’s high price point...there is still more to being a great RD than just “range.”

Had Cedar/Escort decided to price the RL360c around $600 - then this is a non-discussion because IMO with firmware 1.3, it might just end up being the current top-dog RD in the market today.

However @ $800+ with tax...that leaves a lot of “wiggle room” because, like you already mentioned, there are other options for 60% or more cheaper that make more sense from a buying perspective that offer similar performance/range.

At the end of the day, I guess Escort determined there is market value/interest for the new Redline to justify it being the most expensive windshield-mounted radar detector EVER (until Radenso’s baby project comes along).

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