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Same! Highway or nothing!

How is the Mazda filtering in Highway mode for you? I passed one today and the V1 Gen2 went off and the RL in Hwy was silent.

I’m gonna run the RL solo in Hwy mode for a while now.
 

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How is the Mazda filtering in Highway mode for you? I passed one today and the V1 Gen2 went off and the RL in Hwy was silent.

I’m gonna run the RL solo in Hwy mode for a while now.

I have simply not had BSM falses. This thing has been so quiet! The only odd thing I have had happen was a Ka 35.482 on the wide open freeway with no cars around me. When I searched it, I found an old ERF discussion about it being possibly driverless car type stuff? Link was here: http://escortradarforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15848.html

Detector has been great.

As a result of me testing the R360 and my R7 against Redflex vans though today, I am feeling a little unprotected. : (
 

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How is the Mazda filtering in Highway mode for you? I passed one today and the V1 Gen2 went off and the RL in Hwy was silent.

I’m gonna run the RL solo in Hwy mode for a while now.
In my experience, the Redline 360c, with K Notch on, has been better at BSMs than my V1G2. And that’s saying something!
 

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In my experience, the Redline 360c, with K Notch on, has been better at BSMs than my V1G2. And that’s saying something!

I agree with that so far too. It’s the reason I’ve been trying out other detectors at the same time today... I keep wondering if there’s no BSM transmitting cars around.
 

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@Vortex @BagNDrag are you guys saying that if the range can be improved that the RL360c is worth the price?
For me, that’s a tough question. The range of the R 360c is currently matching detectors that are in the $449 - $500 range, the BSM filtering so far is quite good (need more seat time to see if it is better than the rest). So, are the built in auto lockouts, escort live data, multiple meter modes, possibly better BSM filtering, wifi connectivity, stealth, mag mount, build quality etc. worth $250 - $300 more? I’m anxious to see what future firmware updates bring to the table from all parties. Hopefully, this will be an easier question to answer at the end of the year. To sum it up at this point in time, I’ve been looking for the “be all end all” detector for a LONG time now and the R360c, to me at least, is the closest thing currently on the market to fitting the bill. I’m curious to see what Theia brings to the table at an even higher price point later this year.

-Mark
 

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For me, that’s a tough question. The range of the R 360c is currently matching detectors that are in the $449 - $500 range, the BSM filtering so far is quite good (need more seat time to see if it is better than the rest). So, are the built in auto lockouts, escort live data, multiple meter modes, possibly better BSM filtering, wifi connectivity, stealth, mag mount, build quality etc. worth $250 - $300 more? I’m anxious to see what future firmware updates bring to the table from all parties. Hopefully, this will be an easier question to answer at the end of the year. To sum it up at this point in time, I’ve been looking for the “be all end all” detector for a LONG time now and the R360c, to me at least, is the closest thing currently on the market to fitting the bill. I’m curious to see what Theia brings to the table at an even higher price point later this year.

-Mark

That's a good way to put it. It is looking like the closest thing we currently have to the ultimate detector.

The R7 and V1 Gen2 are a better bang for the buck. They can do maybe 80% of what this detector can at 50-60% of the price.

So long as the RL360c's range is in the ballpark as the R7 and V1, the improved BSM filtering alone is what's making me lean more and more towards this detector so far. That's a difference I notice almost every time I go drive.

Escort Live, WiFi, the speed limit on the display, the Escort tones, stealth, and MRCD are all icing on the cake.
 

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For me, that’s a tough question. The range of the R 360c is currently matching detectors that are in the $449 - $500 range, the BSM filtering so far is quite good (need more seat time to see if it is better than the rest). So, are the built in auto lockouts, escort live data, multiple meter modes, possibly better BSM filtering, wifi connectivity, stealth, mag mount, build quality etc. worth $250 - $300 more? I’m anxious to see what future firmware updates bring to the table from all parties. Hopefully, this will be an easier question to answer at the end of the year. To sum it up at this point in time, I’ve been looking for the “be all end all” detector for a LONG time now and the R360c, to me at least, is the closest thing currently on the market to fitting the bill. I’m curious to see what Theia brings to the table at an even higher price point later this year.

-Mark

Well said Mark. I, too, agree that this is the best all around detector at this time. I like range but I also need the other offerings as stated here as well and the other detectors just don't offer them. If range is solely what you're after then there are certainly other detectors that will fit that requirement at a less expensive price point. That said, most on here that are complaining about the price point continue to say they're holding out for Theia yet Radenso has already stated that it will be closer to the $1K mark. So, you don't like the $750 price point yet you're holding out for one that's going to be another $250-$300 higher?
 

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So long as the RL360c's range is in the ballpark as the R7 and V1, the improved BSM filtering alone is what's making me lean more and more towards this detector so far. That's a difference I notice almost every time I go drive.

Escort Live, WiFi, the speed limit on the display, the Escort tones, stealth, and MRCD are all icing on the cake.

I say we wait until K-band testing, for both range and reactivity, has been done before we anoint the RL360c as the BSM filtering king. If they have neutered either to achieve BSM filtering, then at least folks will know and can make an informed decision about whether they are ok with the results or not.
 
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I say we wait until K-band testing, for both range and reactivity has been done before we anoint the RL360c as the BSM filtering king. If they have neutered either to achieve BSM filtering, then at least folks will know and can make an informed decision about whether they are ok with the results or not.

Agreed. I’ll work on some K band testing later this afternoon. :)
 

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Well said Mark. I, too, agree that this is the best all around detector at this time. I like range but I also need the other offerings as stated here as well and the other detectors just don't offer them. If range is solely what you're after then there are certainly other detectors that will fit that requirement at a less expensive price point. That said, most on here that are complaining about the price point continue to say they're holding out for Theia yet Radenso has already stated that it will be closer to the $1K mark. So, you don't like the $750 price point yet you're holding out for one that's going to be another $250-$300 higher?
Well said. Taking the RL360c outr of the discussion, Theia will be more than double of the other detectors, so now you are talking $500-$600 more.
 

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Well said. Taking the RL360c outr of the discussion, Theia will be more than double of the other detectors, so now you are talking $500-$600 more.

Which is ridiculous and hence why I’m not getting one. My money is best served going into purchasing laser jammers instead.
 

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Theia will be more than double of the other detectors

Can you cite your source for that information? Was that a specific thing said here on the forum by someone from Radenso?

I believe the price will be between $1000 and $749. I'll edit here in a second...

Edit notes: citations included in my next post down.
 
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Can you cite your source for that information? Was that a specific thing said here on the forum by someone from Radenso?

People all over the forum have stated that Radenso has stated that Theia will be in the range of $1000 or more.

Forum members are complaining that the RL360c is too expensive when compared to the [email protected] and the R7 which are in the $400-$500 range, yet many of those same people are saying they'll wait for Theia which would be more than double the price of the V1G2 or the R7.
 

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Once the Redline 360c released at the $750 price point it all but guaranteed that the Theia is going to be priced higher than that. I could here Jon laughing all the way to the bank.
 

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People all over the forum have stated that Radenso has stated that Theia will be in the range of $1000 or more.



What "People all over the forum" have said doesn't matter, especially without any citations to actual statements or conversation, and without traces to someone who represents their company.

Here's the best citation we have for pricing information, from someone that works for the company and is authorized through their role at the business to give information related to pricing.

Price is unannounced but will be more than the Escort Max 360C but less than $1000.



Further, we know that Theia will not ever reach "$1000 or more", due to these words from another individual who's authorized to speak on behalf of Radenso:

The price of Theia once announced will not be changing.
 

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That said, most on here that are complaining about the price point continue to say they're holding out for Theia yet Radenso has already stated that it will be closer to the $1K mark. So, you don't like the $750 price point yet you're holding out for one that's going to be another $250-$300 higher?

Because if the detector that's potentially $250-300 higher lives up to it's hype, it's completely different in operation than anything that has ever been brought to the radar detector market. People are entirely missing that. The R360c is functionally the same as the R7 and V1G2, despite what the marketing BS wants you to believe about it having AI. "Legacy detector" almost sounds like a gatekeeping term thrown around, but it's true. The R360c, V1G2, and R7 are all frequency-based detectors, just like any other detector in the past, with various different analog and digital bits used to differentiate them and make them better. Theia is not that.

I do not think it's apples to apples to compare the price difference of the R360c to the other two detectors and the price difference of Theia to the other two detectors (or even the R360c, for that matter). Theia is an entirely different technology. To me, it's two separate things to compare "same technology, only different prices" to "two wildly different technologies."

With that all out of the way

IF the R360c continues to improve and be updated in a timely fashion to becoming the most refined "legacy detector," then there is most certainly a place for it on the market. It's not just the range, which is what everyone is comparing it to with the R7 and V1G2. It has an abundance of features that the other two just don't have the full combination of (as someone said here earlier, maybe they get 80% there). No one detector is perfect for everyone, even Theia. If Escort can keep up the platform, it will absolutely have a place for people in the market, especially with it's feature set for a "legacy" detector.

And this is coming from an Escort hater. I despise them as a company, and I do so openly on this forum. But they proved me wrong and fixed a good majority of the issues with this thing. I commend them for that. I want to see them continue to succeed, because even though I will never own a R360c, other people will be relying on it for protection. And they deserve a good product.
 

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What "People all over the forum" have said doesn't matter, especially without any citations to actual statements or conversation, and without traces to someone who represents their company.

Here's the best citation we have for pricing information, from someone that works for the company and is authorized through their role at the business to give information related to pricing.





Further, we know that Theia will not ever reach "$1000 or more", due to these words from another individual who's authorized to speak on behalf of Radenso:

Jon at Radenso stated on his June 26th video that it would be more than the Redline 360c. Video titled Radenso Video: Why can't I test multiple radar detectors next to each other?
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Because if the detector that's potentially $250-300 higher lives up to it's hype, it's completely different in operation than anything that has ever been brought to the radar detector market. People are entirely missing that. The R360c is functionally the same as the R7 and V1G2, despite what the marketing BS wants you to believe about it having AI. "Legacy detector" almost sounds like a gatekeeping term thrown around, but it's true. The R360c, V1G2, and R7 are all frequency-based detectors, just like any other detector in the past, with various different analog and digital bits used to differentiate them and make them better. Theia is not that.

I do not think it's apples to apples to compare the price difference of the R360c to the other two detectors and the price difference of Theia to the other two detectors (or even the R360c, for that matter). Theia is an entirely different technology. To me, it's two separate things to compare "same technology, only different prices" to "two wildly different technologies."

With that all out of the way

IF the R360c continues to improve and be updated in a timely fashion to becoming the most refined "legacy detector," then there is most certainly a place for it on the market. It's not just the range, which is what everyone is comparing it to with the R7 and V1G2. It has an abundance of features that the other two just don't have the full combination of (as someone said here earlier, maybe they get 80% there). No one detector is perfect for everyone, even Theia. If Escort can keep up the platform, it will absolutely have a place for people in the market, especially with it's feature set for a "legacy" detector.

And this is coming from an Escort hater. I despise them as a company, and I do so openly on this forum. But they proved me wrong and fixed a good majority of the issues with this thing. I commend them for that. I want to see them continue to succeed, because even though I will never own a R360c, other people will be relying on it for protection. And they deserve a good product.

No doubt Theia will be a totally new detector powered by a small computer, however, price is price and those who are complaining about the $750 Redline price say they're holding out for the Theia which has been said that it will be more than the Redline 360 by Radenso themselves? I just don't understand that logic.
 
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Jon at Radenso stated on his June 26th video that it would be more than the Redline 360c. Video titled Radenso Video: Why can't I test multiple radar detectors next to each other?
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No doubt Theia will be a totally new detector powered by a small computer, however, price is price and those who are complaining about the $750 Redline price say they're holding out for the Theia which has been said that it will be more than the Redline 360 by Radenso themselves? I just don't understand that logic.

First minute into the video. More than the Escort. Less than $1000.00


I understand people holding out. There’s only so much disposable income to go around for a luxury item.

Why shoot your wad on something that’s more of the same using old tech.... or hold off to see what Theia offered in options and performance.

It’s already demonstrated what it can do and how it can do it. Such as gun identification and other things.

They’ve also stated the release date as 2020. So that’s anytime this year. What’s the point if you can wait?

There’s still more testing to be done on the R360. Just like we have to see the results of Theia’s testing.

The K band and MRCD testing is another test for the R360. Maybe we’ll see a huge haircut in reactivity and range when TSF is turned on like we did on another detectors FW release?
 
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