V1G2 vs Pro M: BSM filtering

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So for those of you who've been running the Pro M or RC M and now are using the V1 Gen2, what are your thoughts on how the BSM filtering compares between the two?

I like that the Pro M has Honda/Acura filtering without K Block. The V1 Gen2 does false to some of those cars, but only very mildly.

Both detectors false to Mazdas, but again I think the V1's falses are more chill. JBV1 can also automatically mute those further based on frequency since they're always around 23.123 / 24.124.

From a subjective perspective, which one do you find less annoying and more quiet?
 

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I run the V1G2 in advanced logic, and it's quieter to BSM in my book because of this:

Pro M detects the second gen CX-5 from bus lengths away (I own both the RD -until this sat and car).

V1G2, occasionally will give a brief blip and then filter it out if it falses, coming across one in traffic. I can actually drive the CX-5 around with the V1G2 and not have any problems.

That's my quick take. I gave the Pro M to my mom 😂 if that says anything.

The Pro M is very set it and mostly forget it (Ka falses 😔)
 

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Totally unbiased but I like the Pro M better. 😆

In all seriousness I think they are neck and neck with BSM filtering but the GPS gives the Pro M the edge. It really will just depend on your luck on which cars you drive by. I can say about 90% of the time for me it is the few Mazda’s. I usually don’t notice any other cars falsing the Pro M.

I drove around with the V1G2 and the stationary alerts drove me nuts. I took out my older V1 that I’ve owned for over a decade and it was of course much worse. You really don’t realize how much you love GPS until you don’t have it. (even just for low speed muting to help stationary alerts)
 

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If you're using an app, the V1G2 is a quieter detector. If you're not, the Pro M is. Keep in mind, the average consumer doesn't even know the difference between a bsm false and a stationary false. It's just simply false k band to them.

With an app, V1G2 falses less (mainly because it filters out Mazdas). Without an app, the Pro M gains back more than that due to GPS lockouts. Just depends what you're looking for - there is no perfect detector for everyone.
 
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Oh yes there is. I've just bought it. I can't think of anything I'd like to change.
Wait, there is one thing, I'd like a knob.
 

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I agree with Jon , I don’t mind running an app plus you get way more data/info doing so
 

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I use an app with my V1G1 and it keeps my unit pretty quiet. When I have enough to purchase the V1G2, I will have to check it out without an app and then with an app.
 

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Yeah an app certainly helps to deal with stationary falses. For this discussion I'm more curious about BSM falses specifically that lockouts and low speed muting won't help with, particularly if you're on the highway. JBV1 does add some additional frequency-based muting/filtering for BSM's that punch through K Verifier which is handy, but let's say if we wanted to ignore that too for a moment, I'm curious more about the V1 Gen2 with l or L mode vs. the Pro M on TS Rej High.

It feels a little weird to say the V1 is quieter given that it falses to some Hondas/Acuras while the Pro M doesn't, but subjectively with how many alerts you get and how intense they are when they alert, I do think the V1 Gen2 is better. I wish I had a more scientific and measurable way to compare the two.

On a related note, I tried running the V1 Gen2 and RC M simultaneously yesterday, but the RC M keeps causing the V1 Gen2 to false to Ka, especially with the rear antenna.
 
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On a related note, I tried running the V1 Gen2 and RC M simultaneously yesterday, but the RC M keeps causing the V1 Gen2 to false to Ka, especially with the rear antenna.
If you are just looking at a comparison for falses, maybe you could try to turn off/segment out Ka on one or both?

Oh, combined with driving PSL or under of course.... :p
 

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If you are just looking at a comparison for falses, maybe you could try to turn off/segment out Ka on one or both?
haha yeah after running it wide open for a little while to learn what that's like, I think it is time to start turning off front laser detection, using CF for Ka, etc. :)
 

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Will the pro m continue to receive updates to improve bsm filtering? Or is that it for the pro m when theia arrives?
 

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Will the pro m continue to receive updates to improve bsm filtering? Or is that it for the pro m when theia arrives?
Let's hope there's more imrpovements.. although after they showed what a Mazda BSM looks like, I wouldn't hold your breath.

There are TON of Mazdas around here. I get falses from Suburus too. Everything else I'm ok with.
 

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Let's hope there's more imrpovements.. although after they showed what a Mazda BSM looks like, I wouldn't hold your breath.

There are TON of Mazdas around here. I get falses from Suburus too. Everything else I'm ok with.
Yeah I hope so too, it would suck if they just dropped the pro m after theia was released because I bought a pro m fairly recently.
 

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haha yeah after running it wide open for a little while to learn what that's like, I think it is time to start turning off front laser detection, using CF for Ka, etc. :)
Even in both of your cars, you are getting laser falses as frequent? did your old V1G1 False as often as the V1G2?
 

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Yeah I hope so too, it would suck if they just dropped the pro m after theia was released because I bought a pro m fairly recently.
No I don't think they'd do that. Theia is going to the ultra expensive premium/premier product. I don't think they could or would abandon the mid-tier market.
 

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Even in both of your cars, you are getting laser falses as frequent? did your old V1G1 False as often as the V1G2?
I don't remember exactly since I now disable laser detection on the V1 Gen1 too, but I do believe both detectors would false to reflections coming from the ALP self-test. That said, I'd like to stay on topic regarding Pro M / V1G2 BSM filtering differences, not V1 laser falsing comparisons. :)
 

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Even in both of your cars, you are getting laser falses as frequent? did your old V1G1 False as often as the V1G2?
For what it's worth, my Gen 2 falses less than Gen 1, I've run them side by side to confirm that after I noticed how many Mazdas went past without a peep.
 

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Yeah I hope so too, it would suck if they just dropped the pro m after theia was released because I bought a pro m fairly recently.
Dont forget the Pro M is TINY TINY 🤔🤔😎😎

Theia and 360c are both much larger.

My GFs Pro M is going nowhere 👍👍

Our Pro M 's are still gonna [email protected] and remain pretty [email protected] stealthy while performing very well.

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I would prefer the GPS capable Pro M that I have, and the R7.
Reason: Stationary falses are 90% of my signals picked up with every detector.
I have them all set to be very quiet but still sensitive on K.
Lockouts here are everything. These door openers are close to the roads and go off like my Bushnell in the front seat.
Once I get lockouts for the usual suspects, the Quiet Ride and AutoCity modes and GPS alert speed settings cure the rest.
BSMs are only a few a week on my R7, and more rare on Pro M.
Pro M AutoCity 40/90 kph
K3
TS Rej low
Alert speed 20 kph
K Narrow
MRCD, MRCT, Gatso off
RLC, SC on - this is another GPS bonus, as well as MRCD for my Alberta trips and coming soon to BC.
 

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